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WiredGuy 09-13-2006 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic
I was merely stating a fact.

Several people with a lot of traffic have posted negatively about how you presented this.

Had you presented it as an income opportunity, it would have fared better.

Anyone who does more than a few bucks a day in mainstream knows everything contained in that PDF.

The download offer is very lucrative - but now you've alienated a large portion of GFY's mainstream traffic.


Exactly. He would have done much better simply stating the opportunity behind it rather than the wrap around for spam. The ebook Rich Jerk comes to mind for efffective marketing...
WG

studiocritic 09-13-2006 12:13 PM

I'm not taking it personally, nor am I assuming.

I just see the posts from myself, WG and others.

And you're still failing to see the tone of my previous posts.. they were advice.

This one is a retort to your fantasy.

studiocritic 09-13-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Exactly. He would have done much better simply stating the opportunity behind it rather than the wrap around for spam. The ebook Rich Jerk comes to mind for efffective marketing...
WG

I think it's a great opportunity.

Does anyone know of any other pay-per-download free ebooks? Especially in the internet/affiliate marketing realm.

scottybuzz 09-13-2006 12:26 PM

spamspamspam

WiredGuy 09-13-2006 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic
I think it's a great opportunity.

Does anyone know of any other pay-per-download free ebooks? Especially in the internet/affiliate marketing realm.


Not ebooks but there's quite a few pay per download opportunities in mainstream...
WG

studiocritic 09-13-2006 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Not ebooks but there's quite a few pay per download opportunities in mainstream...
WG

free ones, though? as in no-CC needed?

I've been combing CJ for more. If you feel like sharing icq me :)

WiredGuy 09-13-2006 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic
free ones, though? as in no-CC needed?

I've been combing CJ for more. If you feel like sharing icq me :)

:winkwink:

Comb around some other networks, CJ has been horrible for ages (for me at least).
WG

fr0gman 09-13-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Exactly. He would have done much better simply stating the opportunity behind it rather than the wrap around for spam. The ebook Rich Jerk comes to mind for efffective marketing...
WG

I have heard about that Rich Jerk. Can you post a public link so that we can download it?

tranza 09-13-2006 05:34 PM

Nice read....

pornpf69 09-13-2006 05:45 PM

thx for sharing

bknoob 09-13-2006 05:47 PM

fifty.... cents .. :)

Tuga 09-13-2006 05:48 PM

What a lame thread.

DTK 09-13-2006 08:52 PM

frogman....if you had just made it clear that it was your site, there would have been no problem imho, and probably received compliments for your project. instead, you used the most basic marketing spin on a bunch of professional marketers, apparently thinking they wouldn't see it for what is was. just come clean and quit being defensive..you have a potentially good product :)

fr0gman 09-13-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza
Nice read....

Yep I thought it was a good read as well.

X37375787 09-13-2006 11:09 PM

Blah it was alright. What it missed to say (unless I didn't see it while skimming) is that you can successfully block the low-paying advertisers from advertising and that way, keep your eCPM up. Just gotta know who to remove. There is tons of shitty doorway funnel domains that only aim to upsell the purchased Adwords clicks to other PPC programs and make bank that way.... those are the lowest paying clicks, by far.

X37375787 09-13-2006 11:10 PM

Adsense is far from being dead, but glad to see that the fella is making bank off commission sales.

I forgot to mention before: Once you get on-site advertisers who specifically advertise on your site only via Adsense, you suddenly find yourself making dollars a click. Not many CPA programs that can claim such a payout per click average. :error

fr0gman 09-14-2006 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DTK
frogman....if you had just made it clear that it was your site, there would have been no problem imho, and probably received compliments for your project. instead, you used the most basic marketing spin on a bunch of professional marketers, apparently thinking they wouldn't see it for what is was. just come clean and quit being defensive..you have a potentially good product :)


You are 1000% right. I came at this sideways. Must have been the lack of sleep.

Klen 09-14-2006 06:15 AM

Why do you claim adsense is dead?I mean they are toostrong,yahoo will never be stronger beacuse they are limited to Usa only.

fr0gman 09-14-2006 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris
Why do you claim adsense is dead?I mean they are toostrong,yahoo will never be stronger beacuse they are limited to Usa only.

Dead compared to where they were 6 months ago in terms of your ability ot earn a profit. Read the report...

I am actually doing much better click 2 click with Yahoo as compared to Adsense.

topshelfdesign 09-14-2006 06:33 AM

never used it, enver understood much about it

fr0gman 09-14-2006 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by topshelfdesign
never used it, enver understood much about it

Hit me up on ICQ and I will be happy to get you started.

Tuga 09-14-2006 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman
Hit me up on ICQ and I will be happy to get you started.

What for? Isnt it dead? :helpme

SmokeyTheBear 09-14-2006 07:36 AM

hmm i dont get this thread at all.. some ebook your making money on by having us read it .. no thanks.. ADSENSE IS DEAD but not selling ebooks lol :)

I also dont get why they would pay people money to have me read it except to spam my email and thats a fucking ripoff

fr0gman 09-14-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuga
What for? Isnt it dead? :helpme

Yes, the way that most people are doing it.

fr0gman 09-14-2006 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
hmm i dont get this thread at all.. some ebook your making money on by having us read it .. no thanks.. ADSENSE IS DEAD but not selling ebooks lol :)

I also dont get why they would pay people money to have me read it except to spam my email and thats a fucking ripoff

Settle down Smoke...

It is called marketing. Do you not have a throw-away email address? I can send you a Gmail invite. :)

SmokeyTheBear 09-14-2006 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman
Settle down Smoke...

It is called marketing. Do you not have a throw-away email address? I can send you a Gmail invite. :)

actuaally i would like another gmail invite , and i did use a throwaway email i just didnt really like the marketting technique .. it makes the information seem worthless to be honest.. If the information is valid . most likely a user will want the advice from the person ( ie adverts and such ) The way its setup it seems more like a trick to get the users email address, and thats just lame... i wouldnt sell my own address for $100 ..

fr0gman 09-14-2006 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
actuaally i would like another gmail invite , and i did use a throwaway email i just didnt really like the marketting technique .. it makes the information seem worthless to be honest.. If the information is valid . most likely a user will want the advice from the person ( ie adverts and such ) The way its setup it seems more like a trick to get the users email address, and thats just lame... i wouldnt sell my own address for $100 ..

Gmail invite sent.

fr0gman 09-15-2006 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bknoob
fifty.... cents .. :)

I don't like rap music.

chipmunk 09-15-2006 07:12 AM

MMmm this is getting interesting! Mainstream, always gets me going :)

-=Chipmunk=-

Young 09-15-2006 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman
I have made a lot of money with Adsense and I have over 3 million pages out there and....

spammers complaining about Adsense :1orglaugh

You guys are killing Adsense

fr0gman 09-15-2006 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Young
spammers complaining about Adsense :1orglaugh

You guys are killing Adsense

Explain? I have seen Adsense improve over the years and now it is on its decline. That is not the fault of the SE SPAMMERS it is a product of Google's greed and that of the Adwords subscribers.

I am willing to hear your opinion though. How are we killing Adsense?

godisdead 09-16-2006 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman
Explain? I have seen Adsense improve over the years and now it is on its decline. That is not the fault of the SE SPAMMERS it is a product of Google's greed and that of the Adwords subscribers.

I am willing to hear your opinion though. How are we killing Adsense?

I still don't understand what you're complaining about. Google realized that Adsense clicks aren't worth as much as search results clicks, which is obviously true even if you don't include the SE spammers. So they allowed advertisers to bid on them with a seperate price, a price that reflects the true value of the traffic. That it's less than the search results value is obvious, what google did was against the greed of the SE spammers. Prices for adsense will rise again, there may be an adaption time during which prices will be lower, but just as with the search results ads, prices will soon reflect the real value of the traffic as pricing always works in a free market. Adsense is far from dead. This guy just used a provocative headline and an affiliate program to get subscribers to his email list. That's good marketing in my opinion. But I disagree with his conclusions in the free ebook.

fr0gman 09-16-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by godisdead
I still don't understand what you're complaining about. Google realized that Adsense clicks aren't worth as much as search results clicks, which is obviously true even if you don't include the SE spammers. So they allowed advertisers to bid on them with a seperate price, a price that reflects the true value of the traffic. That it's less than the search results value is obvious, what google did was against the greed of the SE spammers. Prices for adsense will rise again, there may be an adaption time during which prices will be lower, but just as with the search results ads, prices will soon reflect the real value of the traffic as pricing always works in a free market. Adsense is far from dead. This guy just used a provocative headline and an affiliate program to get subscribers to his email list. That's good marketing in my opinion. But I disagree with his conclusions in the free ebook.

All good points.

The purpose of the text was not to put people off from Adsense but to give them cause to reflect on ways to set up multiple streams of income. EVERYONE should have more than one iron in the fire and I would guess that most people on this board do just that.

squishypimp 09-16-2006 03:35 PM

i dont think adsense is dead, maybe it just needs alittle injection.

micker 09-16-2006 04:55 PM

adsense is dying. the ROI on adwords clicks is terrible.. the adwords vouchers were the last gasp. There's far better ways to market than adwords.

I am the target market for what that ebook is pushing, and I agree with whats being said. I'm curious to see what gets said in the second ebook, this first one seemed to be mostly choir preaching.

Fr0gs, I think what may be causing some of the response you're getting may be due to the fact that this is an adult board, and I doubt that there are as many webmasters here that are as vested in adsense as there may be in other places...

Hit me up on ICQ and I can point you to a couple of other places you can promote this where you might get a better reception.

evilclown 09-16-2006 06:20 PM

http://www.spam-uk.com/images/WCcanHome.jpg

marzzo 09-16-2006 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman
I just found a report that you have to read if you are trying to make your living with Adsense. It is a damn good read.

http://www.lakotamagic.com/traffic/index.php

This report talks about how Adsense died on Aug 1 and about how Google is ripping you off with tiny little amounts while making off like bandidts. For a free report is is pretty damn interesting,

So you make $50k a month with your ebook?

fr0gman 09-17-2006 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by marzzo
So you make $50k a month with your ebook?

Are you applying for a job as my tax accountant? Send your resume and a list of references and I will have someone get in touch with you.

montel 09-17-2006 02:31 AM

frogman, please go spam somewhere else

fr0gman 09-17-2006 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by montel
frogman, please go spam somewhere else

montel,

please open your eyes and try to see the forrest around the trees.


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