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pornjudge · 09-13-2006, 04:15 AM

WTF, I dont think its that easy to open door in midflight? I am sure the doors are secured & only could be open by flight crew? Today Their was an incident in an United Airline Flight:

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CHANTILLY, Virginia (AP) -- A man wearing military fatigues and throwing punches into the air tried to open the exit door of a jet during a cross-country flight on Tuesday night, airline officials and passengers said.

United Airlines Flight 890 from Los Angeles landed as scheduled at Washington Dulles International Airport at 8:35 p.m., said Amy Kudwa, a Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman. No one was injured.

Ken Wolfenberger, of Whittier, California, who was on the flight, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview that he helped subdue the unruly passenger. The man wore patches on his fatigues with special forces and jujitsu champion logos, Wolfenberger said.

The man had been acting strangely for about 20 minutes, then sat up, wrapped belts around his hands and threw punches into the air, Wolfenberger said.

Wolfenberger said he heard a flight attendant yell for help and tell the man, "Sir, get your hand off the handle."

"Any time you hear a flight attendant shout 'please help,' you worry that something pretty bad is going to happen," he said.

Wolfenberger said the man was held down and punched by other passengers as he grabbed the man's leg. Air marshals then came and took custody of the man.

The passenger became unruly about 31/2 hours into the flight, said United spokeswoman Megan McCarthy.

"After the passenger was restrained, the pilot decided to land at Dulles," McCarthy said. "It wasn't an emergency landing."

Airport police and FBI agents met the flight and were interviewing the passenger, said FBI spokeswoman Debbie Wierman.

There were 138 passengers and six crew members on board, McCarthy said.

CuriousToyBoy · 09-13-2006, 04:55 AM

Logic (and the fact I fall like a zillion miles in the last few years) tells me they can disarm the door (so the passenger slide chute does not automatically fire up) and they can unlock, but I would think the external pressures of flying at 600-900 knots, the vacuum created by the pressurized cabin and the external air pressure would make it pretty hard to actually open.

I could be totally wrong. Just my logic.

fuzzylogic · 09-13-2006, 04:58 AM

it also says that he TRIED to open the door. no where does it say the door opened.

CuriousToyBoy · 09-13-2006, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic

it also says that he TRIED to open the door. no where does it say the door opened.

I think he was just wondering whether it was possible is all.

fr0gman · 09-13-2006, 05:01 AM

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Air marshals then came and took custody of the man.

Then came? From where Kansas City?

How long does it take to walk the length of a plane?

BlueDesignStudios · 09-13-2006, 05:01 AM

I've often wondered this question... I get nervous when I've seen people lean on the door lol

chodadog · 09-13-2006, 05:03 AM

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mergrogh · 09-13-2006, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

the vacuum created by the pressurized cabin

What's wrong here?

CuriousToyBoy · 09-13-2006, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mergrogh

What's wrong here?

MY logic.

DamageX · 09-13-2006, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

Logic (and the fact I fall like a zillion miles in the last few years) tells me they can disarm the door (so the passenger slide chute does not automatically fire up) and they can unlock, but I would think the external pressures of flying at 600-900 knots, the vacuum created by the pressurized cabin and the external air pressure would make it pretty hard to actually open.

I could be totally wrong. Just my logic.

The pressure is on the INSIDE, Einstein.

DateDoc · 09-13-2006, 06:04 AM

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Plus they are also locked now and cannot be opened unless the plane is bellow a certain altitutde.

fhgmaster · 09-13-2006, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pornjudge

WTF, I dont think its that easy to open door in midflight? I am sure the doors are secured & only could be open by flight crew?

Hm, don't know, but maybe someone should try on his next flight. Just don't make punches in the air before

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Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

external pressures of flying at 600-900 knots, the vacuum created by the pressurized cabin

Maybe that one should read "the vacuum created by flying at 600-900 knots and the internal pressure of the pressurized cabin". Physically, there should be no problem, but I can't imagine there is no safety system.

PlugRush Sascha · 09-13-2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

Then came? From where Kansas City?

How long does it take to walk the length of a plane?

A long time if you're a lazy air marshal sleeping or maybe they were taking a shit?

CuriousToyBoy · 09-13-2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

The pressure is on the INSIDE, Einstein.

Read my own post above yours, dufus.

dakota1358 · 09-13-2006, 06:17 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/colum...-captain_x.htm

Klen · 09-13-2006, 06:21 AM

Well like is hard to take hammer and smash the doors.But i dont know why should anyone want open the door during flight.

TSGlider · 09-13-2006, 06:26 AM

I wonder about that every time I hop on a plane. And the thought alone gives me the willies.

RayVega · 09-13-2006, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterPorn

Plus they are also locked now and cannot be opened unless the plane is bellow a certain altitutde.

I actually asked this question once while on a plane. The door locks are pressurized so at several thousand feet the doors will not open. However, they do need to open at places that are a few 1000 ft above sea level like...so at 2000-3000ft you could get away with opening them. BUT, there's a motion safety that will disallow the door to open if the plane is moving at more than a roll. So it's a combination of altitude and speed that keep doors locked. Least that what the stuardess told me.

sumphatpimp · 09-13-2006, 06:48 AM

D.B Copper says it is (was) possible
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal...per/index.html

In 1971, D.B. Cooper hijacked and threatened to blow up an airliner, extorted $200,000 from its owner, Northwest Orient, then leaped from the airborne 727 with 21 pounds of $20 bills strapped to his torso.

gooddomains · 09-13-2006, 06:51 AM

he probabbly saw some snakes

CuriousToyBoy · 09-13-2006, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

he probabbly saw some snakes

Or he had Samuel L. Jackson sitting beside him.

Phoenix · 09-13-2006, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

Logic (and the fact I fall like a zillion miles in the last few years) tells me they can disarm the door (so the passenger slide chute does not automatically fire up) and they can unlock, but I would think the external pressures of flying at 600-900 knots, the vacuum created by the pressurized cabin and the external air pressure would make it pretty hard to actually open.

I could be totally wrong. Just my logic.

hehe go back to sleep man

CuriousToyBoy · 09-13-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

hehe go back to sleep man

The nicest "fuckhead" I have ever been called !!

Onya Brad !

dcortez · 09-13-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

I've often wondered this question... I get nervous when I've seen people lean on the door lol

But you have to keep it in perspective.

Like how often has that actually happened (door on plane opened in mid-air flight).

Probably way less that people getting toes run over by city bus at curb.

KustomKowgurl · 09-13-2006, 04:38 PM

Doesn't seem to me that the flight attendant would have had such a fit if it wasn't possible to open the door.

dcortez · 09-13-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KustomKowgurl

Doesn't seem to me that the flight attendant would have had such a fit if it wasn't possible to open the door.

It's the same syndrome as walking under a helicopter when its blades are rotating - even if your head could never reach them (even if you jump up), you still crouch down.

When someone is fondling a plane exit door handle, reason takes a step to the side.

reynold · 09-13-2006, 05:55 PM

That reminds me of an episode in CSI Miami where the plane; which is the crime scene itself, was really opened on midair. I can't remember if it was the victim(a woman) or the suspect (a man) who opened it but it's definitely not the flight crew..

SleazyDream · 09-13-2006, 05:57 PM

wouldn't there be more pressure IN the plane than outside? causeing the door to blow open

or would air speed change this pressure factor?

grusthumbs · 09-13-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

he probabbly saw some snakes

That would do it ;)

sickkittens · 09-13-2006, 06:12 PM

Haven't you ever seen Airplane (the movie)? Of course, it can be done.

dodger21 · 09-13-2006, 07:01 PM

So are they going to start banning military fatigues on board planes now?

Gillespie · 09-13-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

...but I would think the external pressures of flying at 600-900 knots...

No commercial airliner flys at those speeds. The larger and faster ones can reach like 300 IAS at higher altitudes, which translates to something around 500-550 knots ground speed or Mach 0.85-0.88.

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