To those that wonder why the towers fell

Sorry, but we've all learned a valuable lesson from those in this thread that prefer to rely on possiblities and probabilities, with a bit of philosophy thrown in, that those people don't count.. These witnesses didn't actually hear these things.. and those guys weren't burned..

They all got together and said, "Ok guys.. let's concoct this kewl story that we heard explosions & stuff & HEY! someone throw a match to those guys and make it look good for the press."

Not to mention that you're now among the ranks of the paranoid conspiracy nuts.. Welcome to the club!

stickyfingerz is a queer

This is, without a doubt, the best post I have ever read on this forum.

Do you have credible links to prove this or is it just another one of those paranoid conspiratal nutjob assumptions based on copius quantities of extraneous paraphrases?

Just curious

I must agree..

I kinda tried to say that throughout, but it didn't come out quite as well..

Dude I agreed with you. Wtf are you talking about? And btw Ive done manual labor all my life. I assure you I can work with anyone. Up till 3 months ago I did uprigging, and am still available if they call me. Do you know what uprigging is? Its hanging over a beam 120ft up in the air and pulling 80ft of 3/4" chain up with a rope 20 times a night. If you think you can hang and want to try doing it sometime come here to Nashville and Ill get you a training spot. Ive worked since I was 8 for my father doing heating and cooling on construction sites and in homes. Ive hauled cast iron furnaces up from basements they shouldnt fit in. I daily moved things that weighed way more than me. I worked in autobody for 4 years and had my own body shop for 2 of those years. Busting my ass sanding and banging metal back into shape. You think just because Im not a big guy I cant hang? Dude I guarantee you Im in better shape then you. I do 100 push ups and situps every night, and jog every other morning about 2 miles or so.

You are letting your political hatred get in the way of good judgement. I jumped in and defended you in the past and you let a politcal discussion taint things. Wake the fuck up man. Ive never backed down from anything in my life as far as work goes. You think you have the balls then visit me in Nashville and Ill let you walk the beam 120ft off the ground with no saftey rope till you get out to where you are working and tie off. I dont know who pissed in your fuckin coffee, but you better get over it.

And for all the more recent questions on how it happened, watch the video, AND watch the slideshow. They explain it in detail. If you still dont believe it doesnt matter because nothing is ever going to change your mind period.

If anyone wants to make a discussion thread personal, well thats just plain silly. If you dont like what I say then disagree with me. Some of my best friends in life are my polar opposites when it comes to politics. They dont think any less of me because of it, nor do I of them. Its called being a grown up.

interesting

I don't think anyone will ever be able to elaborate on every noise that was heard on 9/11. I'm sure it was sheer chaos in those buildings and the noises and sights were something we wouldn't wish on anyone.

For an explanation, I'd imagine that there were explosions. I'd imagine flying a 747 filled with jet feul into a building at 500 MPH would cause endless damage. I'd imagine you'd hear things breaking, electical things blowing up, and so on. As floors buckled, elevators broke, doors crushed, there would be tons of noise. Although no one knows for sure what they heard, logic would tell me that it probably wasn't a bunch of explosives that were planted before.

Why don't you find something worthwhile to do Sticky and avoid answering your own damned posts and responding to others with complete trivia coments - it's called being grown up.

Ya know webby you just finally made ignore. buh bye.

And Im done with this thread for a bit. When things get out of hand with someone I thought was a good person its time to just stop. Ive got tons of work to do so Im off to it for a few hours at least.

Can assure you the best place for me is ignore on your list - does that mean you will not respond to posts in any thread? Must be my lucky day

See ya

I guess we just trust different sources. I trust experts who have loads of experience in science and engineering. You trust one or two guys who made a quote that gets blown out of proportion.

Most of the claims of molten steel are often seen as people who don't know the difference in incandescent steel and molten steel.

But to keep this going, which theory are you going with, the explosion one, or the molten steel one. You technically can't have one with the other as explosions don't cause molten steel.

First.. the subject of post-collapse molten steel is in no way related to any pre-collapse explosions, so it isn't a matter of which I choose to go with..

However, in that I have no irrefutable links as reference, I'll forego the molten steel issue.. It really has nothing to do with my concerns anyway..

As far as the engineers with loads of experience, there are a number of those who disagree with the others' findings.. And none of them have any experience in airliner/fire induced skyscraper collapses, so much of their bottom line can only be based on speculation and assumption, which is reflected in the FEMA report with the, "may have's", "could have's", "will require further study", etc.

So that leaves us with, as you say, who we choose to trust.. The comment of me choosing 1 or 2 guys was a bit light weighted.. and as I stated in a previous post, one of the videos referenced had two of these apparent experts who said bldg 1 lunged forward and fell, which by a simple viewing of the start of the collapse shows that not to be the case..

With regard to the explosions.. Not a matter of whether I choose to go with it.. it's matter of whether or not you choose to believe trained firemen, in different locations, saying they heard loud exposions.. with some saying it almost knocked them over. As for the cause of these explosions.. I've never inferred that they were from bombs or plants of any kind. I have no idea what would have caused them.

I've said it before and I'll say it again..
I'm not saying the govt did it.. I'm not saying there was any conspiracy.. I'm
not saying that I agree with any of the conspiracy guys out there..
I stand on my own with my position, which has nothing at all to do with who did what or why..
The only dog I have in the race is my thoughts that from all I am seeing on the videos.. and some photos, some of the things that have been reported as official just don't add up. .. Rather simple actually..

Fuggit. Don't change the bottom line yet....

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