What do you think the fireball was??

Compare the fireball to the size of the bldg and then say that..

Further.. even if every bit of the fuel was inside, the fire was out in about an hour.. So no real issue either way..

:( yesterday was a sad day.

As predicted this thread delivered.

Retard :thumbsup

Can we entice anymore nutso people to make themselves look silly?

Ok, I will explain everything you are asking about.

1) The plane was travelling at about 400 MPH. I can assure that there is no such thing as 'magic fuel' that manages to physically seperate itself from the fuel tanks and explode outside the building while the entire plane enters the building. A little wonder of science called "pressure" is what caused your giant fireball.. in laymans terms: there was not enough air (oxygen) inside the building for the explosive chemical reaction to consume all the fuel.. so, in an effort to get more oxygen, the explosion will travel to where there is lots of oxygen. The sheer magnitude of the explosion consumed all the air available inside the building, let's not forget the percussive shockwave created by an impact and explosion of this magnitude.

No, but steel doesnt have to melt to lost most of its structural integrity.

Here's a science experiment you can do at home:

Take a wire coat hanger. Bend it - make a note of how much force it takes to bend the metal.

Take a lighter and hold the flame under a piece of the coat hanger for, oh, say 5 minutes.

Now, bend the metal again - Amazing!! See how much weaker the hot-yet-non-melted metal is! Science is fun!! Structural steel behaves in much the same way. Dont believe me? then you're crazy and/or retarded.

Actually, this is completely false. Please cite your source. They were NOT engineered to take the impace of 757-sized commercial jets travelling at 400mph.

This is a lie propogated across the internet by such geniuses as Dylan Avery and Phoenix. Watch every internet video on this subject - none of their 'sophisticated timing mecanisms' actually start when the building begins to fail, nor do they end at the right time. It is impossible to see the whole collapse because of the debris cloud - and thus it is impossible to accurately time the collapse.

95% of everything you just said is not true.

???? I dont even know how to comment on the above statement.. there is absolutely no rationale/logic/thinking/brain activity going on there.

I have lots of answers!! keep on asking!!

The reason the towers fell are because the United States puts regional corporate interests above the interests of its citizens.

I doubt that whole conspiracy thing is real, if it was they really fucked up... country is more divided than ever before, I don't see anything as a plus for those who did an inside job... except Iraq's oil, but that's a mess, so even that fucked up.

This country will never wake up though and keep having wars on words and creating more attacks. This country is full of cunts, and I am one of them.

Any more kooks around that care to take a stab?

I will grant you, that it may not have been explosives, because the impact was huge.

But I believe that the US government knew or was involved, and allowed it to happen.

Other wise why was Bush sitting in the class room, when the " Nation was under attack "?

He should have been Swiftly moved out of there, and onto airforce 1, and off the ground.

Yeah, I'd agree they might have knew it was going to happen. I mean, 7 minutes reading a book... any idiot would know to get the fuck up and get rolling. I doubt it was US government completely though, they probably just let it happen.

Either way, it was happening with Democrats or Republicans probably... this country is full of complete morons. Two party duopoly bull shit... we are all idiots for allowing it, but I guess that is how we like it!

Sure and scare a classroom of kids. And what difference would it have made exactly?

It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him.

But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers, we were given three times the period required to execute the operations

Im guessing you think nothing was being done without him saying to do something then right? That your angle there?

oh yeah, so silly ... so how come the empire state building is still standing ? it has been hit by a bomber lost in the fog and it burned way longer than any of the towers ! ... and there were other skyscaper burnings that lasted WAY OVER 15 HOURS ! why are thopse STILL STANDING ??? ... why dont you switch on your wetware and realise that adolf george hitler bush is the wrong leader ??? ...

dude, GWB is superman - he could have ran to the boys washroom, torn off his suit.. then flown into space and reversed the spin of the earth to TURN BACK TIME, then he would have gone and used his super-speed to beat-up the hijackers in their hotel rooms before they boarded the flights...

THAT'S the difference it would have made, dude.

seriously.

too bad you have the IQ of frozen yoghurt :thumbsup shut up patriot and dont ask any questions ... you deserve a shithead like bush :321GFY

I will pay you $1 million dollars if you cite one skyscraper that was hit by a plane at least as big as a 757 travelling at over 400mph.

Well perhaps you should research the size of the plane that hit, the weight of it, the way the empire state building is contructed compared to the wtc. How much fuel was on the plane that hit? The floor it hit on. How far did it penetrate into the building. How fast was it going? Thanks for playing though. :thumbsup

Try googling search terms with quotes, like "Sivan Kurzberg" (Mossad agent), "Urban Moving Systems" (probably Mossad front company), "Dominik Otto Suter" (the Israeli owner of Urban Moving Systems - he fled to Israel before the FBI could "chat").

It's hard to find the real facts on them - the net is clogged up with stupid blogs about conspiracy theories and every assholes answer to them - but here's an actual news report:

http://www.sundayherald.com/37707

I nailed my demographic I was looking for. I am a marketing genius. Mad views yo!

Please continue.

Thats quite a reference link there. Golly gee. Do you have pictures or video of these dancing men? Do you have background information, or the ID's of these men? Do you have evidence supporting said men were mossad agents? So now the Israelis and Bin Laden are parnters eh? Again...


Let me put it in english. THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU ARE YAPPING ABOUT.


Now following your modus operandi, you'll come in and make some down your nose looking comment that makes you appear to have the inside information on something. Maybe a quip about someone from GQ...

Unless you have something pertaining to what the thread is discussing, (that is we are discussing why it is very very stupid to say there were bombs, or missles or any other stupid conspiracy theory involved in the attacks on 911) then shut the fuck up, or maybe it would help you to hear it from someone who in circles talks.

http://www.deathclan.com/fun/up_the_shut_fuck.jpg

WTC 1 and 2 do you want to pay me epass or paypal:)

Fuck me - if you are a marketing genius, I'm fucking Donald Duck - and thats not the name on my passport :1orglaugh

"Marketing geniuses" are well-known for their ability. Believe me - there are no "marketing geniuses" around GFY. They earn far more serious money elsewhere.

Fucking clueless as usual :winkwink: But, hell knows - your prob an OK guy despite yourself.

hardy har har :thumbsup

Tip....

SHUT THE FUCK UP

And have a nice day Sticky :thumbsup

No no silly, he had to put on a show. Bite his lip, look concerened.:winkwink:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/img/galle...tR_350x250.jpg

http://www.freedomofexpression.com/1...s/bush_mug.jpg

the real story will come out and we will see who's wearing the tin hats.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rosebud/p.../wtc-hole1.jpg
Can anyone explain this?

Well first you explain to us what you think the picture means.

So unbelivably predictable.

No really. Show us the proof you have to the mossad being involved. I mean it should be easy right? You are stating your little story as fact without some sort of evidence right? Surely its based off more than a couple guys dancing right?

It was just terrorists fueled by the dumb fucking cunts running this country. You think the politicans give a shit about anyone? They don't care about shit, all they want is their corporate buddies to get ahead of the other countries corporate interests.

And it's going to stay like that; it is going to be all foreign interests that we have no fucking business being in, yet the big mighty USA is going to keep swinging its oversized military dick all over the place breaking down buildings with it and killing other countries' innocent civilians. Then the other countries mobsters (the terrorists) will come and fuck some of us up, while our big fucking mob bosses go back at them. It is just gang wars on a worldwide scale.

Stuck in a duopoly that basically says either way you vote, you're still going to get the big red, white, and blue dick up your ass. We are all pawns to the big elite suits, and we are on here arguing about whether 9/11 was an inside job or not.... shows the stupidity of this entire population.

This is real, there are millions of people that hate the USA, and for good reason. Whether or not 9/11 was a conspiracy or not, there are MILLIONS of people that hate the US. Maybe we should put 9/11 behind us and possibly go the route of prevention, but NO we will keep fighting a war on a WORD. Expect more terrorist attacks, we just keep adding the fuel and will do so for a LONG time, because the people in office now have the country accepting in their definiton.

Unlike you, I have no interest in forcing bullshit opinions, conspiracy theories or stupid solutions to them. That's the job you undertook with your "genius marketing" thread bullshit.

Nor do I have any fucking desire to prove anything about 9/11 one way or other, - tho it's clear naive Mr Sticky has established all there is to know :1orglaugh

As far as Mossad is concerned - look the fucking details up yourself. The story was printed in almost every main newspaper. Try to avoid being a totally ignorant asshole and grow up - it might help your credibility.

So you are saying the best plan would of been to try and appease the terrorist then? If so how would we have gone about making them happy. Do you think that hadnt been tried before? Lets here whacha got.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Well.... na... I can't be bothered saying much - it's too damned funny watching the intelligence in action :1orglaugh

Ok so on the first bolded point...

1. Why are you in this thread then? Think I already asked you if you had nothing to contribute to the thread to fuck off and go away.

2. Well if it was in every main newspaper then surely you have a better link than an undated, no author listed, sundayhearald article right?

Maybe another comment about me might dilute the conversation enough to make you not look like as much of a pompus ass clown ?

Oops you already posted what I mentioned above. Lets see if its working.......


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Nope you still come off as a pompus assclown. Sorry nice attempt though. :thumbsup

Well, we go back to the start and look for when all of this bullshit started. First, we were giving them money to fight the Soviets, then we yet again sided with the Taliban to try to overthrow Sadaam... but now we're enemies?

Well, if we go back in history we can look at the Lebanese Civil War in 1982 as a good start. The US' 6th division went and helped Israel and bombed a lot of shit there. The US has no business there pretty much, yet our big military dick was swinging around taking down buildings and killing innocent people. We also fund Israel to go in and kill the civilians.

It isn't something easy to explain, it can take pages of information to see how we got into this mess, but let me tell you this much and keep it simple. They don't attack us because they "hate freedom". You don't get MILLIONS of people hating you because they "hate freedom", you get millions of people hating you because your military dick swung through their fathers/mothers/sons/daughters/friends building and killed them for regional global interests.

This terrorism bullshit is kind of recent with the dissolution of the Soviet Union. America got the hyperpower status and started swinging its dick around the region and killing people. This led to groups of people who want to maybe try to get some revenge on the war machine. Afterall, revenge is something humans really want once they themselves got stuck in the ass... so it is reasonable for them to want this and to act in horrible ways against "innocent" people, (even tho the US and Israel wipe out more innocent people than those "terrorist" boys could ever imagine doing).

All depends on how you look at it. We got our big military cock and they got their boys running around in our country waiting to blow shit up. In my opinion, if the US wasn't a hyperpower and didn't put its dick in everyones face, it wouldn't have these problems. You don't see terrorists attacking Sweden afterall...

All about the regional and corporate interests. They don't give a FUCK about you or me, it is all about their own interests. And as for the terrorists, they just want the middle east to be ... out of superpower interests and Islamic. Not good people, but we aren't any better.

(Remember, the US isn't the "people" it is the US Government. There is a strict distinction between the 2 since the "people" have no power in the government. Same as the people in the "terrorist" countries, the "terrorists" are the ones who start the shit, and then get their own people fucked up the ass. Same works with us, just the two mob bosses fighting each other and fucking the citizens. We are to blame though since we just follow along like the big stupid dumb cunts we all are... I have no sympathy for us.)

stickyfingerz: Go watch some more fox news.

I know the history and the background. Now explain to me why that gives them the right to kill us?

1. It's a fascinating source of amusement watching attempts at an intelligent conversation. You had a number of sensible comments - but your reponse is too dumb, blinkered and idiotic - it's too funny.

2. Have you heard of a search engine? It's the place to find references to stuff you are clearly ignorant about. Try.. anywhere... the Washington Post suit you??

But Sticky... I really enjoy being pompous (remember to spell it correctly the next time) - especially with naive Sticky :1orglaugh You are an fountain of knowledge - it's hard to ignore.



PS But don't you like me posting Sticky? - it bounces your marketing genius thread :winkwink: When the thread hits off the page - ask another stupid question.

Im busy checking this site out right now, Ill watch fox later

www.juliablue.com

Need more rope? lol

Give me ONE link other than what you posted. If it was so easy to find you wouldnt of used the SundayHerald.

Well some claim the building was raging in massive fires hot enough to melt steel. What are these people made of?

Because we don't do anything to stop the corporate suits from doing anything. The citizens just sit around and trust these people with their security, even though the proof is there that we are part of the cause of all of this bullshit.

I can ask you the same question, Why do we have the right to kill the innocent people in the middle eastern countries? Why can we have 30,000 civilians killed in Iraq and it is collateral damage, yet if they come and blow one of our buildings up it is a terrorist attack? The World Trade Center was actually a good target to hit from a strategic standpoint.... it was like blowing up a few cities at once considering how large the buildings were... the people inside were just "collateral damage" to the terrorists, just like the Lebanese, Iraqis, Afgans, ect are the same for us... it is just a big dick swinging contest started by US global interests after the Cold War. These people didn't just think "Hey, lets hate the US!", there is a cause and an effect, but you can keep buying into the supernatural excuse that they are innately evil. Millions of people hate us, and we are a part of the cause... blowing up more people doesn't solve shit, it just causes more of us to get blown up.

This won't stop though, the country is full of idiots who will keep voting to keep these dumb cunts in power and getting us killed, and I say good. If it really does start sinking I will bail out and leave the dumb asses stuck here with the "terrorists". I'm glad I can look out for my own self interests, because the government sure as fuck doesn't give a flying fuck what happens to me.

Like I said, once the terrorist attacks start happening frequently (which will happen), I'm out of here... I'm not sticking around and getting killed over corporate bull shit, no way, no how. You can be a patriot though and fight the "terrorists".

I have another question
Both towers got hit by 2 different planes in 2 different area's causing different damage, yet 2 buildings that day fell in the exact same way. Isnt that a little odd?

This is the girl that wanted the helicopter to resque her after the jet fuel burned off.

Meaning the fire was not all that hot, and dont say it
all ran down the elevator shaft, that is a crock of shit as well.

That must be my cue.

I don't disagree with your description of why you think the towers fell, but why does someone who disagrees with you become a nutso liberal tree hugger?

Why are they nuts? I dont think this needs an answer. Anyone that thinks explosives were used, or there were missles on planes, or missles instead of planes is a wacko.

I heard testimonies of people yesterday that were on the floors where it hit, and above. One guy had skin grafts on both arms. They estimated the tempetures went from 72 degrees to 1800 degrees. Are you saying there were no fires? :uhoh Watch the video I posted in the first place where it collapses. Is there a fire in the video?