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maxarbo · 09-07-2006, 07:57 PM

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0907061bukk1.html

Feds Give "Toilet Man 6" Two Hands Up
Bush administration obscenity crackdown nets fetish film kingpin
SEPTEMBER 7--In what appears to be a Department of Justice first, federal officials today included the word "bukkake" in a press release announcing the arrest of a Brazilian man for allegedly distributing obscene material. According to federal prosecutors, Danilo Simoes Croce, 42, operated web sites offering "obscene videos for download or delivery in the U.S.. The videos depicted bukkake, fisting, and depictions of defecation, urination, and vomiting in conjunction with sex acts." The Sao Paulo man was arrested yesterday in Florida, where he was charged with conspiracy to distribute obscene material, a felony carrying a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $150,000 fine. In a revoltingly detailed criminal complaint, postal inspector Linda Walker provides a shot-by-shot description of some of the films purchased from Croce's sites by undercover investigators, who have been targeting the operation for more than three years. Some of titles carefully reviewed by Inspector Walker were "Toilet Man 6," "Bukkake 3," and "Scat Pleasures," according to the complaint, excerpts of which you'll find below. In the Croce document, Walker also includes a brief "background on fetish-type" films, in case readers (like, say, a square U.S. magistrate judge) were unfamiliar with terms such as "fisting." The Croce case is the latest major prosecution brought as a result of the Bush administration's initiative against hard-core pornography. In a communication last year to the FBI's 56 field offices, the anti-obscenity campaign was described as "one of the top priorities" of Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez and FBI Director Robert Mueller. (9 pages)

tony286 · 09-07-2006, 07:58 PM

after reading it ,I think bukkake was the least of his problems lol

JD · 09-07-2006, 07:59 PM

he didn't get nailed for the bukake otherwise there'd be a shit load more people going down. He got nailed for the scat

tony286 · 09-07-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

he didn't get nailed for the bukake otherwise there'd be a shit load more people going down. He got nailed for the scat

fisting is also a big no no

jacked · 09-07-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

after reading it ,I think bukkake was the least of his problems lol

yeah seriously...

could have something to do with the defication and urination and fisting...

fucking people man...

MaddCaz · 09-07-2006, 08:15 PM

whatever the hell

Axzar · 09-07-2006, 08:17 PM

it's crap!!!!!

maxarbo · 09-07-2006, 08:20 PM

Yeah, I guess this is much worse than wars created by the government. Dead bodies, and arms and legs blown off aren't half as bad as these awful videos. Its not my cup of tea, but geez I think "Fear Factor" is sometimes worse than scat films and thats broadcast with sponsors on NBC.

Also 5 years in jail is rediculous, the guys from Enron are only getting 10 years.

budz · 09-07-2006, 08:21 PM

holy fucking shit

maxarbo · 09-07-2006, 08:25 PM

I just don't undertand why sticking a dead bull penis in your mouth can be shown on NBC on Fear Factor and is not considered obscene.

Isn't that necrophilia beastilaity !!!! HAHA

notabook · 09-07-2006, 08:51 PM

Thank you Lord Bush! It?s about time you stop all of those evil CONSENTING ADULTS from doing whatever they want with their bodies!

edgeprod · 09-07-2006, 09:02 PM

Haha, it's the "Bush" emphasis that makes it funny.

That, and the fact that it looked like "Bush arrested for Bukkake" when I first saw it. I was imagining Condi with a load of splat from the entire Cabinet.

SomeCreep · 09-07-2006, 09:04 PM

In Nagasaki, they like bukkake!

Pipecrew · 09-07-2006, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

he didn't get nailed for the bukake otherwise there'd be a shit load more people going down. He got nailed for the scat

So you're a lawyer now too?

GatorB · 09-07-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

fisting is also a big no no

I don't get this? Penis ok, tongue ok, finger ok 2 fingers ok, 3 fingers ok, WTF differerence what body part a woman wants up inside her? Next thing you know jacking off will be illegal.

tony286 · 09-07-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I don't get this? Penis ok, tongue ok, finger ok 2 fingers ok, 3 fingers ok, WTF differerence what body part a woman wants up inside her? Next thing you know jacking off will be illegal.

what dont you get fisting is considered obscene,its been for a long time.Whether its right or not

bomes · 09-07-2006, 09:43 PM

all i can think is southparks fisting firemen 9

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-07-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Next thing you know jacking off will be illegal.

Uh oh...

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free4porn · 09-07-2006, 09:57 PM

nooooooo

Chichio · 09-07-2006, 09:58 PM

Florida seems to be on some kind of obscenity crack down.

borys · 09-07-2006, 09:59 PM

The really interesting part is this: They arrested a foreigner for operating websites from outside US territory. Guess from now on non-US webmasters better think twice before travelling there.

bdld · 09-07-2006, 10:42 PM

extremely misleading thread title.

studiocritic · 09-07-2006, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

what dont you get fisting is considered obscene,its been for a long time.Whether its right or not

got a link to what is considered obscene federally?

sex69 · 09-07-2006, 11:23 PM

From what I read nobody is safe anymore

Webby · 09-07-2006, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by borys

The really interesting part is this: They arrested a foreigner for operating websites from outside US territory. Guess from now on non-US webmasters better think twice before travelling there.

The "foreigner" was living in the US and operating a mail order business from Florida sending "fetish" videos by mail in contravenion of USC 1461 and 1462. These are the main offenses. He operated a business known as Lexus Multimedia where he is the president. In addition, serveral of his domains were hosted in the US. If that does not qualify for compliance of US laws - little does.

This is not a case of a foreign webmaster being obliged to comply with US domestic law when there is no business presence, hosting or residency within the US. If this idiot never operated in the US - there is no grounds for any charges or extradition (would be laughed at - for better or worse).

borys · 09-08-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

This is not a case of a foreign webmaster being obliged to comply with US domestic law when there is no business presence, hosting or residency within the US. If this idiot never operated in the US - there is no grounds for any charges or extradition (would be laughed at - for better or worse).

Regarding his websites, the two domains I just looked up are registered to addresses in Brazil, but indeed hosted in the US. In the criminal complaint there's no mention of the hosting location though. My understanding is he's charged for the fact that his sites can be accessed from US soil.

While the main offense is sending videos via US mail, which is obviously illegal, I think the charges over his websites are the more alerting part.

Webby · 09-08-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by borys

Regarding his websites, the two domains I just looked up are registered to addresses in Brazil, but indeed hosted in the US. In the criminal complaint there's no mention of the hosting location though. My understanding is he's charged for the fact that his sites can be accessed from US soil.

While the main offense is sending videos via US mail, which is obviously illegal, I think the charges over his websites are the more alerting part.

Sure, the main capture point is the mailing operation - that's nice and easy for any law officer. He was a sitting duck ready to be take the shot on that (and prob knew the risks).

The only reason he could be charged/arrested is because he is living in Florida and under the laws of the US and conducting a business within the US. If it was otherwise, and eg. he did not operate a business, host or live in the US, he is not subject to US domestic law.

If he was operating from his home country (Brazil), there are no charges - other than any local laws in eg Brazil. Stuff like this does not fall within any extradition treaties. (Tho CP could, but that's normally handled by whatever local law enforcement - cuts out the crap of extradition.)

Oddly, prob the only country that would chase it's citizens (and they do) while living in another country for relatively low grade offenses is the US. There appears to be this concept that a US citizen is subject to the laws of the US and whatever other nation they may be living in - no other country does this. Example.. I'm not living in my home country and there is only one obligation to comply with, namely the laws of the host country. There was never any undertaking to comply with the laws of any other country (other than those imposed by international agreement) - else we'd all be in a jail cell for *something*

madawgz · 09-08-2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by budz

holy fucking shit

wtf?

Webby · 09-08-2006, 01:26 AM

borys:

Just thinking - see where you are going with this

Hell.. if any country don't like the content of the net - they can get off their asses and block whatever content.

Webmasters have one law to obey - that is the law applying within their country of residence. If a website is legal within that jurisdiction and not in eg 20 other countries - hell, - let them sort the shit out

That's what I'm saying and I'm sticking to it - unless some international agreement says otherwise

Due · 09-08-2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

The "foreigner" was living in the US and operating a mail order business from Florida sending "fetish" videos by mail in contravenion of USC 1461 and 1462. These are the main offenses. He operated a business known as Lexus Multimedia where he is the president. In addition, serveral of his domains were hosted in the US. If that does not qualify for compliance of US laws - little does.

This is not a case of a foreign webmaster being obliged to comply with US domestic law when there is no business presence, hosting or residency within the US. If this idiot never operated in the US - there is no grounds for any charges or extradition (would be laughed at - for better or worse).

There was recently a case with some employees of a casino based in UK and registered on the stock market too was travelling and had a middle landing in USA, when they landed to change plane they got arrested, even though they where all foreigners, was not hosting in USA nor having their company in USA. They just accepted US customers

Cant remember where I saw the link, but there was a pretty big article about it, their stocks took a pretty big dive.
Reason they got arrested is that it is now illegal to accept money from a US person if you have a casino that is not located in USA.
This could probably happend to extreme porn too (such as scat, beast, fisting, watersports) might also include anal as that is obscene in some states as far as I know.

Webby · 09-08-2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Due

There was recently a case with some employees of a casino based in UK and registered on the stock market too was travelling and had a middle landing in USA, when they landed to change plane they got arrested, even though they where all foreigners, was not hosting in USA nor having their company in USA. They just accepted US customers

Cant remember where I saw the link, but there was a pretty big article about it, their stocks took a pretty big dive.
Reason they got arrested is that it is now illegal to accept money from a US person if you have a casino that is not located in USA.
This could probably happend to extreme porn too (such as scat, beast, fisting, watersports) might also include anal as that is obscene in some states as far as I know.

Sure.. the gambling case is is almost an identical modus operandi to the Brazilian guy. Kaplan, the "main party" is a US citizen living in another country. He already has a history of gaming violations in the US. Hate to admit it - and it remains to be seen in court, - but does appear they were operating gaming promotion stuff from Florida - silly lads. Kaplan's whole family were involved in that while he was off in another country.

Oddly, there has still not been an extradition warrant been issued for Kaplan. There is also another background issue relating specifically to the laws under which the "foreigner", David Carruthers was charged, (This can't apply to the Kaplan family because they are US citizens and bound by US laws and they were trading in the US), where the World Trade Org is going to rule on a judgement already given against the US. This basically means ... around three or so US domestic laws (including the Wire Act) are "illegal" under WTO rulings and the next step is enforcing that ruling by sanctions. (Tho, there will prob be some deal to avoid that).

But sure.. least for the moment - any management of casinos are not travelling via the US till this shit is sorted

It's more profitable to take that business and forget visiting the place - same with any country who has objections to gaming.

edgeprod · 09-08-2006, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bdld

extremely misleading thread title.

But it sure does illustrate a lot about the OP, no?

Webby · 09-08-2006, 01:55 AM

Hehe...

And re Kaplan - in the event US law scan this board...

It's not worth your while issuing any extradition paperwork - the horse is no longer in the stable

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maxarbo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 119	Bush arresting for Bukkake http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0907061bukk1.html Feds Give "Toilet Man 6" Two Hands Up Bush administration obscenity crackdown nets fetish film kingpin SEPTEMBER 7--In what appears to be a Department of Justice first, federal officials today included the word "bukkake" in a press release announcing the arrest of a Brazilian man for allegedly distributing obscene material. According to federal prosecutors, Danilo Simoes Croce, 42, operated web sites offering "obscene videos for download or delivery in the U.S.. The videos depicted bukkake, fisting, and depictions of defecation, urination, and vomiting in conjunction with sex acts." The Sao Paulo man was arrested yesterday in Florida, where he was charged with conspiracy to distribute obscene material, a felony carrying a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $150,000 fine. In a revoltingly detailed criminal complaint, postal inspector Linda Walker provides a shot-by-shot description of some of the films purchased from Croce's sites by undercover investigators, who have been targeting the operation for more than three years. Some of titles carefully reviewed by Inspector Walker were "Toilet Man 6," "Bukkake 3," and "Scat Pleasures," according to the complaint, excerpts of which you'll find below. In the Croce document, Walker also includes a brief "background on fetish-type" films, in case readers (like, say, a square U.S. magistrate judge) were unfamiliar with terms such as "fisting." The Croce case is the latest major prosecution brought as a result of the Bush administration's initiative against hard-core pornography. In a communication last year to the FBI's 56 field offices, the anti-obscenity campaign was described as "one of the top priorities" of Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez and FBI Director Robert Mueller. (9 pages) __________________ Great Fetish Sponsor

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maxarbo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 119	Yeah, I guess this is much worse than wars created by the government. Dead bodies, and arms and legs blown off aren't half as bad as these awful videos. Its not my cup of tea, but geez I think "Fear Factor" is sometimes worse than scat films and thats broadcast with sponsors on NBC. Also 5 years in jail is rediculous, the guys from Enron are only getting 10 years. __________________ Great Fetish Sponsor

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maxarbo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 119	I just don't undertand why sticking a dead bull penis in your mouth can be shown on NBC on Fear Factor and is not considered obscene. Isn't that necrophilia beastilaity !!!! HAHA __________________ Great Fetish Sponsor

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edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	Haha, it's the "Bush" emphasis that makes it funny. That, and the fact that it looked like "Bush arrested for Bukkake" when I first saw it. I was imagining Condi with a load of splat from the entire Cabinet.

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borys Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 146	The really interesting part is this: They arrested a foreigner for operating websites from outside US territory. Guess from now on non-US webmasters better think twice before travelling there.

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	borys: Just thinking - see where you are going with this Hell.. if any country don't like the content of the net - they can get off their asses and block whatever content. Webmasters have one law to obey - that is the law applying within their country of residence. If a website is legal within that jurisdiction and not in eg 20 other countries - hell, - let them sort the shit out That's what I'm saying and I'm sticking to it - unless some international agreement says otherwise __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat. Last edited by Webby; 09-08-2006 at 01:27 AM..

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Hehe... And re Kaplan - in the event US law scan this board... It's not worth your while issuing any extradition paperwork - the horse is no longer in the stable __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.