Did it happen to you at birth , or was it an accident later on ...

My best wishes goes to you with all my sympathy....

yeah, thats exactly the point overload!

i don't say it's a easy job to 'wire' all that explosives up, but it's just the most likely one - that's what most likely happend. please use common sense franck..

Fuck off idiot.

Go get the 1 million dollar reward there is for evidence of a controlled demolition. Oh wait...you can't because there is no evidence.

Don't let him get to you Franck. He's an uneducated angry little frenchman. Paranoid too it seems.

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mess with the facts franck and use your brain/common sense.. it's getting hard for you keeping 'your truth', isn't it? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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hm bradM nice constribution to the discussion.. another stupid green nick with no own opinion. *sigh

Larry and George used Thermite to melt the steel support beams.

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do you know at least what it means ... since you are so educated ....:upsidedow

It probably would've been a lot easier for them to detonate a 20kt dirty nuke in one of the elevators,that wouldn't have required a massive conspiracy of the level this thread is suggesting.

A government that couldn't get national guard in place after Katrina hit,sure doesn't impress me as one that could pull off such a complex conspiracy as 9/11

mint, what fema exactly did or not did in new orleans is a complet other story..!
research it for your own.. hint: checkout prisionplanet.tv and inforwars.com, also a good resource is jonesreport.com

bush wanted the people in orleans to suffer and die..

bush = hitler as i already said, history repeats itself... and most of us don't notice.

That's fine,no need to research anything for me..I was in the army, Pershing nuclear missiles actually.And from that experience,I am comfortable with the fact that a massive government conspiracy is not conceivable.
I'm also not a teenager.
The internet is simply a media,with spin.Fortunately,i've lived a lot of years already and am more than experienced enough to generate my own opinions based on my own observations.
If you care to believe that the government was behind 9/11,that's your choice.I won't attempt to convert you and there is no need for you to attempt to convert me and apparently Franck.
At the end of the day,Bush is still the president.He will leave office in a few years and it will be up to history to judge whether or not he was effective.
Not you or I.

I have to say after this thread and the moon thread my opinion of Franck has gone up. We are all better off just making conspiracy theory sites and selling it to these people like we sell porn to guys who have fantasies of a porn star actually wanting to fuck them.

Anything is possible Colin - the human species can be unpredictable - but when ya read total admissions by an alleged perp wasting his time babbling on tape for some strange reason and purportedly claiming to be responsible for the 9/11 attacks - is the time I'd prefer to see actual evidence instead of alleged quotes.

It would also be interesting to see who is actually responsible for issuing the words of bin Laden who was obviously very helpful with his quote: "I was the most optimistic of them all due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only."

bin Laden appears to have become a very unprofessional terrorist personality with a mouth that can't stop talking - a strange behaviour, almost boasting.

Any "perp" who also has the amazing stupidity to implicate another of his associates by name into a crime, has a lot to learn. Somehow I'd credit bin Laden with having passed Terrorism 101 and with 10 gold stars for the section on security of terrorist cells.

This quote is in total constrast to the degree of professionalism shown in all other activity in which he was purportedly involved - not just in "terrorist" activity, but in playing a role on behalf of the US in Afghanistan against the Russian invasion.

Very strange no person seems to be able to capture this very unprofessional terrorist.

Sure - people can babble, and do. Anything is possible - but excuse my sceptism :winkwink: Been there, saw that. You know where these quotes purportedly came from? ie.. who translated them and from what?

mint, do you know that usama bin laden is not wanted by the fbi for 9-11?
didn't you swoar an oath to defend the American constitution when you were in the military?

Yes? Then do it know and start thinking with your own brain!

Let common sense rule not fox propaganda!

i dont unnastand the personal insults in this thread ... the loose change video only shows us facts to think about and people using their brains clearly see the official lines are totally inconsitant to the things that actually happened ...

where are the engines of the plane that hit the pentagon ? vaporized ? i laugh my ass off ... 6 tons of steel and titanium up in smoke ? yeah like my bong goes up in smoke when having a puff ... totally rats fake info ...

where are the tapes confiscated by the FBI from sheraton hotel and other places ? if they show proof that a plane hit the pentagon, why not make them available for public ? huh ? its so easy to proof it - IF they COULD ... but they CANT ... you dont need to be highly educated to see this was a big pull off to make way for ther iraq war ... but keep being ignorant and i'll predict the next war ... iran is building the "fat boy" and will be invaded next ... and your fellows will be called in to fight another "saddam" for having weapons of mass destruction ... NONE has been found in iraq but you still believe your leader (this word has a special bitter taste for me coz i am german) ... bush = hitler ... yes, a big betrayer of his country ... keep closing you reyes until the facts show you how wrong you were ...

sarah, you're blonde right? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

sorry but only a dumb ass blonde idiot chick could make such fucking funny comments in a message board. *roflmao

you better beware of was its going on your we can all shutdown our business.. no more selling porn, work in secret prisions is the best you can achieve in the new world oder :2 cents:

I am sorry but you are clearly a moron.

hallo mein fuehrer ;)
bin auch deutscher.. lol lustig dass man den amis jetzt schon ihre innenpolitik erklaeren muss :D

sorry, little chit chat if a german colleague ;)

i think this insults are the results from what i call "sheep effect". people are like sheeps, following the tales of the others without a own will or perception.
no one wants to be the 'black sheep', so just shut up, believe what you should believe and make everybody else thinking like you are.

freedom implicit responsibility.. responsibility can not be handled by everyone yet it seems..

the blonde sheep effect :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If you are that concerned about current US politics and that knowledgeable in WW2 history,you should recall that Hitler had his SS.I wouldn't be making to many derogatory statements about the US government on a public forum.
You just never know what they are capable of.

In the meantime,I'll use my own mind and go enjoy some dinner.
I hope you are able to solve the problems of the world..

Yes, of course I am blonde. As with everything else you are oh so accurate.

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fuck sake.

amazingly accurate summary skills

everyone has to watch this videom you can here the explosions going off as the helicopters fly over the towers then the charges go off, a very good sound recording, i have a subwoofer and it shakes my room to death.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=rick+siegel

Not going to throw a personal insult. But most of what's in loose change can hardly be classified as 'facts' ... 'fantasy' 'science fiction' 'fallacy' would be more appropriate words.

But hey.. due dilligence is for suckers, right? Feel free to call me any of the following or make any of these other statements:

A) A Sheep
B) A Republican / Bush supporter (I am neither, I canadian)
C) "You are living with your head in the sand"
D) "You watch too much CNN"
E) "Open your eyes to what's REALLY going on"

Or any other paranoid statements.

there were drills franck, that's why NORAD stand down.

do you think guys living in caves in afghanstan could do this? LOL

btw: many firefighters and policemen and a lot victims of 9/11 support the 'truth-movement'. so don't insult the immediate family of the victims you ignorant idiots!

little tip for sarah_webinc: watch alex jones new movie "terrorstorm" and register that you living in a official dictator ship!

@mint: do you tried to scare me? muha. what you mean with SS? bush has fema and secret prisions all over the world.. we only had in germany/polen..

Have you ever been to New York?

Is it even necessary to point out how ignorant a statement this is?

Alex Jones is an insane sociopath.

Everyone is comparing the building falling to others that are 1/10 the size, It was not 1 floor falling onto the next, we are talking about the whole building from where the plane hit on up falling onto the rest, I don't know how mant floors it was but your saying that the top 1/3 of the building falling should come to rest each time it hits a floor? Yes there are experts that say one thing and there are just as many that say the other, Lets just build a huge building and fly a plane into it and see what happens next

i get the picture that many of the US fellas didnt even watch the loose change video ... didnt you hear the firefighters reporting sequenced "boom boom boom" explosions coming down the towers ? unplug your heads from where ever you may have them now and GET REAL !!! its YOUR freedom sold there ! :( ... NO, re-read this, NO skyscaper in HISTORY has EVER fallen just because of a fire; even if a plane hit it ... and it will NEVER happen because they are build with 3x security ... this is just silly ... how could a aluminium construction EVER hit a concrete (steel armored) construction THAT hard ???

@ elitegirl ... what sites do you run ? i wanna get in touch with ya :D PM me man ... ehh, girl ? hehehe ;) ...

lol! now that was really a huge and non ignorant argument and statement from you.. respect, huge props..!!


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from whom you get your opinion, fox news? :warning

@sarah: does that matter? take 1 hour time and investigate this issue for your self, i posted the video link often enough.

here is another, already posted here through john69 though.

john69, you're right.. the bass is amazing, frightning, i just heared it again, my bass box, i got a 2.1 system. shooke the hole furniture, when it was on medium volume..:warning

I asked because if you knew New York you would know that if any city had people that would get to the bottom of a conspiracy and not rest until everyone knew it would be those people.

Anyway, I have had my limit of idiots for one week.

if Bin Laden and Al-Q were planning this event for many years in advance, why did they choose to hit early in the day before everyone got to their work? wouldn't it be smarter of them executing their plan at a later time during day?
anyone seen WTC knows it's packed between 11am-5pm

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you are very right ,great post

50%+ people in NYC don't believe the official story. Thats no news to me.

I almost took you serious till i read this.

Sorry.

Next.

franck just face the facts, and finally answere my question concerning building 7 you ignorance is killing you in the near future.

Bush Admits To CIA Torture Camps

the 4. reich

funny thread we have here. lot of people arguing. none of which are engineers or even have college degrees in the subjects related to this discussion.

stick to porn guys.

lol, why do i need a degree with an IQ of 140 ? heh ? it prevents me from getting fooled like 240 million americans and gives me a free mind so why bother with a degree ? ... only 911 degrees fahrenheit are enuff to burn an average american brain, so what ? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

the rick siegel movie is shocking. every reported said there was explosions.. why don't believe the eyewitnesses?

@vvq: weak argument. i only need common sense to see the holes in the 'official story'..

hey franck.. i wait for your statement to what happend to building seven to collapse?

Uhm im still waiting for my answers regarding the first 2 towers, you still didnt answer me. Lets finish that and move on to the next tower ok?

No you wont. Because answering them will make you look like even a bigger idiot and you know it. Instead you will just keep on crying about tower 7 so you dont have to answer it. You fucking imbecile.

Ok, let me make it real fucking simple for you. Just answer this and then we can move on to building 7. Understand that idiot?

Question 1: The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

Yes or no?

Question 2: They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" after the plane hit the wtc.

yes or no?

Hahaha nevermind...you wont answer it. Anyway...im done with you. Waste of time. :thumbsup

No go claim that million with all your evidence hahaha :1orglaugh

Oh no, 1 more thing before im done with you:

The debris falling way faster than the building collapses...is that beyond "free fall" speed?

how many people in this thread have designed a building? how many of you have even cracked a physics or architecture book? how many forensic investigators do we have here?

what i'm saying is just about everyone in this thread has no clue what they're talking about.