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Trixxxia 09-06-2006 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeves
And if you're reading between the lines you would wonder why Electracash has to recover the money before it can be deposited into my checking account. If it was on the bank they'd just deposit the funds directly, there wouldnt be any need to send the money back to Electracash.

Not necessarily - if it went into a bad account, the 'bank' can't just take it out and say it's an 'error'. The person who got the money could very well say it's 'his' and then the bank would have to justify having done the 'withdrawal' whereas if the issuing bank calls it back it's a reversal.

Trixxxia 09-06-2006 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeves
You and I are on the same page, I also have tried to be compinsated for this disaster but I think you already know the answer I got! I've been asking for a check for weeks but keep getting declined, I didnt want to do the transfer again but they gave me no choice!


I don't know about compensation, but I sure hope they aren't charging you for the second wire - that my friend would be bad business.

Jarmusch 09-06-2006 02:35 PM

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skinnybear 09-06-2006 02:36 PM

only take payment in gold

jact 09-06-2006 02:37 PM

Order an electron card, I've heard nothing but bad things about their ACH withdrawls (I suspect it may be Electracash vs ePassporte being the problem here though). I've only ever had one hiccup with my electron card, and while that was a major hiccup it was handled correctly and professionally.

sleeves 09-06-2006 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
I don't know about compensation, but I sure hope they aren't charging you for the second wire - that my friend would be bad business.

yes thats what I was reffering to. I was turned down for a check, how much does that cost? You think they'd pay for a wire, lol.

sleeves 09-06-2006 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact
Order an electron card, I've heard nothing but bad things about their ACH withdrawls (I suspect it may be Electracash vs ePassporte being the problem here though). I've only ever had one hiccup with my electron card, and while that was a major hiccup it was handled correctly and professionally.

I dont want any card, I want my money!

jact 09-06-2006 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeves
I dont want any card, I want my money!

Then use a different payment service if it doesn't work to your expectations. No reason to defame their business because you hit a hiccup. Banking errors happen 1,000 times a day in Canada, I can't imagine how many times a day they happen in the US, you have to roll with the punches.

ePassporte have been trying to help you here, and trying to be patient as they don't have much control of the situtation, they refunded you $200 that they may never see back and you bring it to the boards? Work with them and chill, if $200 is going to make or break you, go get a job.

Mr. Romance 09-06-2006 02:49 PM

Fortunately any of my situations that have arisen out of epass on biz and personal accounts have always been solved?..I hope your situation is solved soon.



Mr. Romance

sleeves 09-06-2006 03:00 PM

No worries, I'll never use them again. But im not about to lay down for anyone. If they were doing everything they can I'd have my money already. This has been going on over a month. The only people defaming their business is them. For over 1 month I've dealt with nothing but contradictory statments and promises of getting my money. How long should I wait?

And again the amount isnt $200, thats just shaliza trying to lighten the situation. What we have here is someone trying to put focus anywhere but where the problem lies. She doesnt even comprehend her points and will argue them to the death even though numerous people have pointed out that she doesnt make sense.

And no they didnt refund the money. I raised hell for that to happen and then was told "its in your account just dont touch it". How the hell is that a refund?

This is about principle! Nothing more nothing less. I will get my money, one way or another I will get it.

sleeves 09-06-2006 03:03 PM

And I'm still waiting for Keyser to make his appearance so we can finish the good cop bad cop routine between him and Shaliza. He wont post until the situation is resolved so he can collect props from the nut huggers and save face.

Real blood 09-06-2006 03:13 PM

Fuck the Motherfucker..use pay com

Jace 09-06-2006 03:47 PM

lol....after reading this thread it just proves even more what a fucked up and unprofessional company epassporte is

not only do they fuck up and not admit they did, but they also make fun of and belittle their own customers in public places

sleeves 09-06-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaliza
You have decided again to try and transfer funds via ACH and again, and this can take 7 business days to hit your account. Monday was a holiday but we will check with the 3rd party and see what the status is.

Shaliza

So are you ever going to follow up? My bank closes in 1 hour and 12 minutes, today is the 7th or 8th day depending if you count Sat. The payment obvioulsy hasnt posted.

Whats your excuse? And before you answer please read this post:
https://gfy.com/10794496-post45.html

Im tired of you repeating yourself!

~Ray 09-06-2006 05:09 PM

I only deal with Keyser. I can't have bad customer serice when I am the one paying for the service. Keyser handles everything if you give him time.
Judging by this thread, I hope I never have to deal with Shaliza or do anything that actually makes her more money. She has NOT earned it as far as I can see.

sleeves 09-06-2006 05:15 PM

I have been dealing with Keyser, I have no idea why shazila is even posting. She has no idea what she's even talking about. But he's obviously avoiding this post. He's made the same claims that everyone else has made over there which is why he isn't answering.

Like I said above, I'm waiting for Keyser to come in and finish the good cop bad cop routine so he can save face and all the nut huggers can tell him what a great job he's doing!

MaddCaz 09-06-2006 05:21 PM

See I hear too many epassporte horror stories. No good.

Michael O 09-06-2006 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeves
I have been dealing with Keyser, I have no idea why shazila is even posting. She has no idea what she's even talking about. But he's obviously avoiding this post. He's made the same claims that everyone else has made over there which is why he isn't answering.

Like I said above, I'm waiting for Keyser to come in and finish the good cop bad cop routine so he can save face and all the nut huggers can tell him what a great job he's doing!

I have been reading this and the reason I haven't posted is that Shaliza is handling this.

I apologize for giving you the wrong information I misunderstood Maeghen
when I talked to her, it is indeed your bank that deposited the transaction to the wrong account.
As a courtesy we deposited the money to your account even though we still
haven't received the money back from your bank.
You initiated another transfer on August 28th, we are currently waiting to
hear back from our ACH processor if this has been deposited.
You emailed me earlier today threatening to take this to the boards unless
we send you a check for all the money in your account, since I can't
authorize this I had to take this to my boss and ask if it is possible.
Less than 1 hour after you emailed me you decided to take this to the
boards and make this thread across multiple boards, without first trying to work with us to solve the situation.

I will keep you updated on the progress of your ACH withdrawal as soon as I have more information.
I won't go into any discussions on the boards and I won't post anymore in this thread, please email me if you have any comments regarding.

Regards,
Michael Olsen

Serge Litehead 09-06-2006 05:39 PM

advice to epass, fire your technical department and rewrite your system from scatch.
I suspect there're plenty of logical flows in the current system, which make very difficult for anyone using it, including your customers and your employees.
:2C's

sleeves 09-06-2006 05:39 PM

Give me a break man, this isn't the first time I've asked for a check!!!! How many times did I have to suggest to you to give me my money and get paid on the backend from electracash before you actually followed threw?????

And now you want to come here and save face, this is ridiculous! You just told me this morning that the reason the transaction didn't go threw is because you hadn't recovered it from the bank and now you are saying let me check on it for you. Which is it? Do I need to post your email?

As far as I'm concerned I've made the right decision bringing it to the boards because now I have your attention! If you want to discuss over email then respond to the email I sent you this morning!!!

And now you're saying you misunderstood Maeghen. Yet I'm supposed to decipher all of this crap, you guys are all saying something different!!!

And to say I haven't been trying to work with you, exactly what in the hell have I been doing for the past month with you??????????????????????

The only difference between keyser and Shaliza is keyser has more tact. But neither are offering a solution.

jimthefiend 09-06-2006 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK
ANYONE READING THIS?????
"So we were out the 200 or so bucks your bank was holding and as a courtesy to you, our customer, we put the funds back into your account not knowing if your bank would ever return the funds to us."
LOVE my Epassporte:thumbsup :thumbsup


No shit.



I heart Epass.

sleeves 09-06-2006 05:45 PM

From Keyser:

The problem is still unsolved. We still haven't had the original $ returned to us from your bank. We are still working to solve this and the money from your transfer on August 28th can't be returned to you until we receive the money back from your bank.

----------------

But now he's checking on it to see why it hasnt posted!

Give me a fucking break.

And for the nut huggers, the only reason they put the money in my Epass account is because I waged war on them for about 15 days prior! And thats the truth! But again what good did it do if I wasnt supposed to touch it?

mrthumbs 09-06-2006 05:51 PM

They have a rep that goes by the fake name "keyser soze" from a fucking gangster movie.. and on top of that: hes the best, most repsected representative.. hahaha

circlekhabib 09-06-2006 05:55 PM

considering the scumbag company that formerly owned or was
part of epass,
why
any of this shit suprises anyone is beyond me.
why the sheep continue to line up for the slaughter,
well that's no surprise all things considered,
stand up guys, big post counts, contests and all
that sheep shit

sleeves 09-06-2006 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeves
So are you ever going to follow up? My bank closes in 1 hour and 12 minutes, today is the 7th or 8th day depending if you count Sat. The payment obvioulsy hasnt posted.

Whats your excuse? And before you answer please read this post:
https://gfy.com/10794496-post45.html

Im tired of you repeating yourself!


The bank has now closed and I still dont have my money, no matter how you spin it your time limit has passed! Should I be suprised?

And even though keyser requested for me to speak to him threw email he still hasnt replied to the one I sent this morning!

RogerV 09-06-2006 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK
ANYONE READING THIS?????
"So we were out the 200 or so bucks your bank was holding and as a courtesy to you, our customer, we put the funds back into your account not knowing if your bank would ever return the funds to us."
LOVE my Epassporte:thumbsup :thumbsup

Dido
EpassPorte Rocks we pay out 100s of our affiliates with them monthly never any problems:thumbsup

sixxxthsense 09-06-2006 06:37 PM

shaliza shut up already and stop acting like an idiot. You are making epass look even worse then it was!!! don't make me drive there and slap your loud ass mouth.

Why do you haveto say howmuch money is in question? 200 bux?

you'r hopping that we are all gonna say "fuck this its some noobs 200 bux and just laught at him!"

you shoud be fired for your loud mouth, not being professional at all!!!

it doesn't matter howmuch money it is! that was never the concern!

he wants his money, he doesn't have the money! its simple.

sleeves 09-06-2006 06:58 PM

She never mentioned the amount, she was trying to make light of the situation and direct attention else ware. But the amount was never the concern. Its the principle of the matter. I don't care who you are, I doubt anyone on this board would stand down and let a company screw them out of their money regardless of the dollar amount.

This wasn't some affiliate payment or something, I sold some domains and never got my money because epass has made a giant mess. I'm not rich, I'm just a regular guy trying to make a living. I live in one of the most expensive areas in the U.S. and for the last 6 months or so I've been shopping for my first loft/apartment. Every dollar counts!

If you went out to dinner and they overcharged your credit card for several hundred would you say "oh well, it was only a few hundred"? Or would you get the situation ironed out?

To me shaliza's responses are obvious and I'm not worried about people falling for it. I'm sure there are a handful of kids that are on this forum that can easily be swayed. But for the most part whether people post or not I think people are getting the point about this company.



By the way mr o still isnt responding to my email although he requested it.

sleeves 09-06-2006 07:00 PM

I guess it's easier for him to change his name than the company he works for!

Jace 09-06-2006 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixxxthsense
shaliza shut up already and stop acting like an idiot. You are making epass look even worse then it was!!! don't make me drive there and slap your loud ass mouth.

Why do you haveto say howmuch money is in question? 200 bux?

you'r hopping that we are all gonna say "fuck this its some noobs 200 bux and just laught at him!"

you shoud be fired for your loud mouth, not being professional at all!!!

it doesn't matter howmuch money it is! that was never the concern!

he wants his money, he doesn't have the money! its simple.

glad to see someone else is noticing this

nice to see all the typical ass kissers come out and make their "we pay hundreds of affiliates a month and never had an issue!" statements...LOL...that gets about as old as epassportes idiotic ways

JFK 09-06-2006 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace
glad to see someone else is noticing this

nice to see all the typical ass kissers come out and make their "we pay hundreds of affiliates a month and never had an issue!" statements...LOL...that gets about as old as epassportes idiotic ways

Just trying to show that there is another side to Epassporte, I love mine and use it worldwide:thumbsup You are entitled to your opinion and so are we:2 cents:

Jace 09-06-2006 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK
Just trying to show that there is another side to Epassporte, I love mine and use it worldwide:thumbsup You are entitled to your opinion and so are we:2 cents:

JFK, one question before I say more:
does epassporte now or have they ever paid for advertising in your magazine or on fubarwebmasters.com?

edgeprod 09-06-2006 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodger21
I'll give you a million other reasons not to use that piece of shit service.

It's not the service, it's the people.

Jace 09-06-2006 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
It's not the service, it's the people.

exactly...epassporte actually is a pretty solid service, and with a little tweaking to the backend it could be amazing

the people making decisions and providing support is where the links in the chain are breaking, and those links are really falling to the ground fast

edgeprod 09-06-2006 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace
exactly...epassporte actually is a pretty solid service, and with a little tweaking to the backend it could be amazing

the people making decisions and providing support is where the links in the chain are breaking, and those links are really falling to the ground fast

That's the frustrating part. It really blows that it could be SO good.

I'm going to be using the thing Chio's been talking about instead -- I'd trust that guy to the ends of the Earth with whatever he comes out with.

Evil-Dan 09-07-2006 07:15 AM

people and companies fuck up all the time, and i am personally pissed at myself for wasting time reading this thread

ePassporte is a very good product, and if I had a $200 problem I would deal with ePassporte directly and strive to work things out

no where have I seen the folks from ePassporte be beligerent in any correspondence here, and I think some people on this board think too much of themselves

In this industry I have been ripped off by so many people to both small and large degrees and not once did any of them try as much as ePassporte has to resolve your issue.

This IMO is just a pile of shit waste of time thread by someone who hasnt a clue on how to resolve a poxy $200 issue without screaming like a baby

Honestly sleeves.... Grow up!

madawgz 09-07-2006 09:06 AM

more epassporte drama, when will it end?!?!

sleeves 09-07-2006 09:39 AM

As I've said numerous times the amount isn't $200. Shaliza said that in an attempt to make a wisecrack and put the focus some where else than where it needs to be. But I could really care less about your opinion of me, I have my own principles.

sleeves 09-07-2006 09:41 AM

And I still dont have my money. What happened shaliza, I thought you were going to check on it?


Quote:

So are you ever going to follow up? My bank closes in 1 hour and 12 minutes, today is the 7th or 8th day depending if you count Sat. The payment obvioulsy hasnt posted.

Whats your excuse? And before you answer please read this post:
https://gfy.com/10794496-post45.html

Im tired of you repeating yourself!

ztik 09-07-2006 09:47 AM

Let me tell you guys something about wells fargo. I have a commercial account there, I have all my credit there, I have my loans there. I have meetings there a weekly basis with financial planners. I know their system pretty good.

1) Wells fargo's incoming wire system is fully automated. As long as electra cash didn't make a typo, it would have went to the correct account...

2) Its wells fargo's policy to return any wire sent to them in error, all they would have to do is simply call wells fargo and tell them that the funds went to the wrong account, they would resverse the wire within minutes...

It sounds like there was some other sort of problem, or electra cash made an error some where and doesn't want to admit it. Its pretty low to blame a customer for their mistakes.




This reply is just my opinion, nothing in my reply was meant to downgrade any company or person.

DamageX 09-07-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil-Dan
people and companies fuck up all the time, and i am personally pissed at myself for wasting time reading this thread

ePassporte is a very good product, and if I had a $200 problem I would deal with ePassporte directly and strive to work things out

no where have I seen the folks from ePassporte be beligerent in any correspondence here, and I think some people on this board think too much of themselves

In this industry I have been ripped off by so many people to both small and large degrees and not once did any of them try as much as ePassporte has to resolve your issue.

This IMO is just a pile of shit waste of time thread by someone who hasnt a clue on how to resolve a poxy $200 issue without screaming like a baby

Honestly sleeves.... Grow up!

He's said several times that it was more than that, $200 was a figure thrown out by Shaliza to diminish the importance of the matter. Regardless, would you feel the same way about him if the amoun was $20K? It doesn't matter how much it is, IT'S HIS FUCKING MONEY, for which he's been getting dicked around for over a month.

ztik 09-07-2006 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeves
As I've said numerous times the amount isn't $200. Shaliza said that in an attempt to make a wisecrack and put the focus some where else than where it needs to be. But I could really care less about your opinion of me, I have my own principles.

""

I think its illegal to post anyones account balance or dollar amount in their account. Or atleast extremely low,regardless of how much it is, it shouldn't matter.

sleeves 09-07-2006 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ztik
Let me tell you guys something about wells fargo. I have a commercial account there, I have all my credit there, I have my loans there. I have meetings there a weekly basis with financial planners. I know their system pretty good.

1) Wells fargo's incoming wire system is fully automated. As long as electra cash didn't make a typo, it would have went to the correct account...

2) Its wells fargo's policy to return any wire sent to them in error, all they would have to do is simply call wells fargo and tell them that the funds went to the wrong account, they would resverse the wire within minutes...

It sounds like there was some other sort of problem, or electra cash made an error some where and doesn't want to admit it. Its pretty low to blame a customer for their mistakes.




This reply is just my opinion, nothing in my reply was meant to downgrade any company or person.

And this is exactly what Wells has been telling me for the last month. They have no idea what Epass or Electracash is talking about. I must sound like a broken record repeating this stuff. But Epass and Electracash are sticking to their guns. I've banked with wells for 15 years without a problem. And now all of a sudden according to epass they've just decided to screw with me.

The messed up thing is that everyone in epass says something different. Keyser admitted that Electracash messed up and then retracted his statement when I made this post. He said that something like 15 days ago. So for 15 days he was thinking the same thing as me and then yesterday he realized it was my banks fault? Come on! And he's apparently their best rep!

sleeves 09-07-2006 03:17 PM

Im still waiting on the status of my last withdrawal atempt! Since shaliza and keyser both said they'd check on it for me. The 7 days has come and gone again, so whats the new excuse?


Quote:

Originally Posted by shaliza
You have decided again to try and transfer funds via ACH and again, and this can take 7 business days to hit your account. Monday was a holiday but we will check with the 3rd party and see what the status is.

Shaliza

sixxxthsense 09-07-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX
He's said several times that it was more than that, $200 was a figure thrown out by Shaliza to diminish the importance of the matter. Regardless, would you feel the same way about him if the amoun was $20K? It doesn't matter how much it is, IT'S HIS FUCKING MONEY, for which he's been getting dicked around for over a month.

thats what pissed me off the most too!!!

sleeves 09-07-2006 03:57 PM

Still no response, Keyser asks me to email him. I've emailed him 3 times since yesterday and still no reply! I also just noticed they put the money back into my epass account again!!! What the hell for I have no idea! Am I aloud to touch it this time keyser? Are you finally going to send me a check after my 20th request? An answer would be great!

sleeves 09-07-2006 05:06 PM

Im still waiting for a reply!

sleeves 09-07-2006 05:24 PM

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:16 PM


I am out sick today and just checking for urgent things so thats why my reply is late.
The ACH were returned from the ACH processor, we are looking into sending your money to you another way.
I should have more news on this tomorrow.

Regards,
Michael Olsen


Amazing, I never saw that reply coming!!!

Juicy Links must have his home phone number!

CDSmith 09-07-2006 05:53 PM

Epass needs to go oldschool when handling these situations.

Try issuing the customer one of these....


http://members.shaw.ca/graphx/pics/monopoly.jpg


I used to love getting these. :D

minusonebit 09-07-2006 05:56 PM

Well hey, at least they didnt DEBIT your account for the amount of your deposit, like they did to me once.


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