Bush admits 9-11 was caused by past US Gov. foreign policy - GoFuckYourself.com

MattK · 09-06-2006, 04:25 PM

On August 7, 2006, George Bush admitted 9-11 was caused by past US foreign policiy:

Boasting to reporters about his plan to democratize the entire world, Bush said it "flies in the face of previous policy." Then, defending this strategy, Bush (accidentally?) admitted that "as a result" of the previous US policy, "anger and resentment bubbled forth with an attack, with a series of attacks, the most dramatic of which was on September the 11th."

Quote is from this page:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20060807.html

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Q Mr. President, you've been quite specific in Hezbollah's role as the creator of this conflict. But what is the magnet, what is the pressure point, what is the hook to get this group to accept a cease-fire, to stop shooting and to stop kidnapping soldiers from across the border of another country?

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I would hope it would be international pressure on not only Hezbollah, the group of Hezbollah within Lebanon, but also its sponsors. And that's the whole purpose of the United States working with allies and friends, is to send a clear message that sponsoring terror is unacceptable. It's the great challenge of the 21st century, really.

Q Do you --

THE PRESIDENT: Let me finish for a minute.

Q I'm sorry..

THE PRESIDENT: It is the great challenge of this century and it's this: As young democracies flourish, terrorists try to stop their progress. And it's the great challenge of the United States and others who are blessed with living in free countries. Not only do terrorists try to stop the advance of democracy through killing innocent people within those countries, they also try to shape the will of the western world by killing innocent westerners. They try to spread their jihadist message -- a message I call, it's totalitarian in nature -- Islamic radicalism, Islamic fascism, they try to spread it as well by taking the attack to those of us who love freedom.

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And as far as this administration is concerned, we clearly see the problem and we're going to continue to work to advance stable, free countries. We don't expect every country to look like the United States, but we do want countries to accept some basic conditions for a vibrant society -- human rights, human decency, the power of the people to determine the fate of their governments. And, admittedly, this is hard work because it flies in the face of previous policy, which basically says stability is more important than form of government. And as a result of that policy, anger and resentment bubbled forth with an attack, with a series of attacks, the most dramatic of which was on September the 11th.
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You know, your question is can we get people to -- a terrorist group to change their attitude. What we can do is we can get state sponsors of terror to understand this behavior is unacceptable, and that we can convince some people in terrorist groups that there is a better way forward for them and their families.

Remember, Hezbollah is a political party within Lebanon. They actually ran people for office. The problem is, is that they're a political party with a militia that is armed by foreign nations and, obviously, this political party with militia was willing to try to influence the Middle East through unprovoked attacks.

And what Condi is working on and I work on is to remind people about the stakes in the Middle East. And those stakes include not only helping the Lebanese government firm up its democracy -- remember, we worked with the French two years ago to boot out Syria. Syria was inside Lebanon and we felt that in order for a democracy to flourish, Syria needed to remove not only her troops, but her agents, her intelligence agents, for example.

And, obviously, there are some in the region that don't want the Lebanese government to succeed. I also happen to believe that as Prime Minister Olmert was making progress in reaching out to President Abbas and others in the region to develop a Palestinian state, that that caused a terrorist reaction. Remember, this all started with the kidnapping of an Israeli soldier by militant Hamas, followed shortly thereafter by the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah.

And, finally, the third most notable battleground in the advance of liberty is Iraq. It's interesting, if you go back to the work of Mr. Zarqawi, he talked about fomenting sectarian violence in order to stop the advance of democracy. The challenge of the 21st century is for free nations to help those who aspire to liberty. And, you know, the first question is, do people aspire to liberty? And the answer is, absolutely -- look at the 12 million people who voted in Iraq. Or look at the people who went to the polls in Lebanon. It's just clear to me that there will be terrorist activities that will try to stop people from living a decent, hopeful life.

And what you're watching now is the diplomatic efforts to address the problem. I know there's -- I sense a certain impatience in your voice about diplomacy coming to a conclusion. What Secretary Rice is doing, as well as me, is we are dealing with a lot of different interests. Remember, each nation at the Security Council has got its own domestic issues to deal with, as well, and so it is -- I wish things happened quicker in the diplomatic realm -- sometimes it takes a while to get things done. But what the American people need to know is we've got a strategy -- a strategy for freedom in the Middle East which protects the American people in the long run. And we've got a strategy to deal with the situations that arise in the Middle East -- first Lebanon; of course, the Iranian nuclear weapon issue.

And as you remember, right before the G8, the question on your mind was would we ever get a resolution out of the U.N. on the Iranians' desire to have a nuclear weapon, as well as whether or not we'd ever get a resolution out of the U.N. to deal with North Korea. As a matter of fact, there was great skepticism, I felt, in some circles, as to whether or not we'd be able to put a diplomacy in place that would deal with these two very difficult problems.

And, in fact, during the G8, two resolutions were passed -- by the way, those resolutions overshadowed by the situation in Lebanon. And I'm confident that working with our friends, if we stay on principle and remind people of the stakes, that we'll be able to accomplish the diplomatic objectives that we have set out -- which is dealing with this problem and addressing the long-term issues.

A couple more questions, and we'll get out -- Suzanne.

Brujah · 09-06-2006, 04:50 PM

stickyfingerz · 09-06-2006, 04:53 PM

He is talking about CLINTON you tard.

TheSwed · 09-06-2006, 04:55 PM

I thougt it was caused by some terrorist that fly areoplanes in the building

High Plains Drifter · 09-06-2006, 05:00 PM

I think you're confusing "admits" with "speculates."

directfiesta · 09-06-2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

He is talking about CLINTON you tard.

Title of thread:

Quote:

Bush admits 9-11 was caused by past US Gov. foreign policy

Past means ... before , previous .... so yes Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, Nixon, and so on ...

What else can I help you to comprehend ....

GrouchyAdmin · 09-06-2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Plains Drifter

I think you're confusing "admits" with "speculates."

Holy shit, if you know how it happened, and why, I say we string you up for not warning us.. or are you just mouthing off to look cool, like virtually every one of these fucktarded threads?

I'm still of the mind that this is an awful thing, and the worst to happen to us in years - but there are other countries where this is the NORM.. at least, as long as they had large structures which housed people.

Really, do we want to continue to take on countries that have warred for centuries? I mean, as a country, we have problems deciding which fucking pablum to watch on the tube half an hour from now.

Let 'em fight amongst themselves. Only play daddy if they get out weaponry that causes more than localized damage.

aico · 09-06-2006, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Title of thread:

Past means ... before , previous .... so yes Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, Nixon, and so on ...

What else can I help you to comprehend ....

blazi · 09-06-2006, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

haha, too funny!

TheJimmy · 09-06-2006, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Title of thread:

Past means ... before , previous .... so yes Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, Nixon, and so on ...

What else can I help you to comprehend ....

That was actually pretty funny.

High Plains Drifter · 09-06-2006, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toonpornblog

Holy shit, if you know how it happened, and why, I say we string you up for not warning us.. or are you just mouthing off to look cool, like virtually every one of these fucktarded threads?

You didn't understand my post. Which is amazing since it only had seven words.

nico-t · 09-06-2006, 05:11 PM

"...to stop shooting and to stop kidnapping soldiers from across the border of another country?"

That's a very objective interview.</sarcasm>

I stopped reading from there.

stickyfingerz · 09-06-2006, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Title of thread:

Past means ... before , previous .... so yes Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, Nixon, and so on ...

What else can I help you to comprehend ....

Hmm to admit something he would of had to be a part of it.

I admit that directfiesta fucks a pumpkin every halloween.

The original poster posted this to make Bush look bad. Like Bush did something wrong. Wherein Bush is saying it was Clinton. If you know history, and the timespan the only other Administration it can be is Clinton. I recall asprin factories hmm.....

tony286 · 09-06-2006, 06:03 PM

funny for the first attack on the WTC Clinton was in office not too long and they didnt start crying its Bush the elders fault? Could it be because there wasnt a left wing proganda machine like there is now for the right. Also Clinton caught the guy who did it, where is Osama????????Also when Clinton wanted to go after alot of this your righty buddies said No War for Monica!

Barefootsies · 09-06-2006, 06:19 PM

devilspost · 09-06-2006, 06:29 PM

Rightwing armchair chickenhawks just like baby bush to scared to fight.

Invest · 09-06-2006, 06:37 PM

This shit don't matter it's in the past. All we need to worry about is killing these wackos.

Webby · 09-06-2006, 07:08 PM

MattK:

That is one dangerous guy to let loose in front of any group who are permitted to question him. (A PR agent's nightmare)

Dumping the silly party political stuff which is of no value to the US as a whole and just creates division and hate (and, as usual, is pounced upon by those with a need to defend on GFY).

The underlying implications of that article are dangerous and, if US policy is to be taken as what comes out of George's mouth - there is a serious lack of comprehension of the real world - right from the first sentence.

The first words are not from Bush "Boasting to reporters about his plan to democratize the entire world", - however, if that is an accurate "boast", there are challenges ahead since other countries will object to any one nation imposing their views on another. There will also be a price to pay for any attempt to do so - and not helpful to the electorate who entrusted this guy to represent them.

Thanks a lot to the current admin, the US has already stepped on to the downwards spiral and that will continue even after this admin have departed.

Next time it may be useful to elect an admininstration with some basic qualities for governing - then there may be some hope of not stepping naively into the mouth of the dragon and have a chance of reversing hard times ahead.

Very sad to see the intense division within the US - nurtured and promoted by the current admin, and also the enormous damage they have caused at all levels - not just within the US, but elsewhere.

Grapesoda · 09-06-2006, 08:09 PM

i'd say 911 was cause by saudi forgein policy . . let's get serious here about this . .

MaddCaz · 09-06-2006, 08:10 PM

bush = boob

Webby · 09-06-2006, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wanton

i'd say 911 was cause by saudi forgein policy . . let's get serious here about this . .

You prob have entered a new realm there Wanton

The very close degree to which members of the US "establishment" (not all currently in positions within govt), have with long-standing dear (and powerful) friends in places like Saudi, can't help but leave an 'unsettling' feeling and one where there is a conflict of interest and a question over trust.

This is not helped by the fact that very little is transparent.

Grapesoda · 09-06-2006, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

You prob have entered a new realm there Wanton

The very close degree to which members of the US "establishment" (not all currently in positions within govt), have with long-standing dear (and powerful) friends in places like Saudi, can't help but leave an 'unsettling' feeling and one where there is a conflict of interest and a question over trust.

This is not helped by the fact that very little is transparent.

$$$ has no borders, no politics . . just before WWII american merchants were working as fast as possible to sell scrap iron to the japanees before an imbargo could go into effect . .

MattK · 09-06-2006, 10:47 PM

Read this site for more info about "blowback", a term first used by the CIA in the 60's to describe people rebelling against US-sponsored dictators in their countries:

http://www.chaostan.com/whydotheyhateus.html

CybermedAndy · 09-06-2006, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Plains Drifter

I think you're confusing "admits" with "speculates."

Confusing "admits" with "places blame"

09-06-2006, 04:25 PM	#1
MattK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 492	Bush admits 9-11 was caused by past US Gov. foreign policy On August 7, 2006, George Bush admitted 9-11 was caused by past US foreign policiy: Boasting to reporters about his plan to democratize the entire world, Bush said it "flies in the face of previous policy." Then, defending this strategy, Bush (accidentally?) admitted that "as a result" of the previous US policy, "anger and resentment bubbled forth with an attack, with a series of attacks, the most dramatic of which was on September the 11th." Quote is from this page: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20060807.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- Q Mr. President, you've been quite specific in Hezbollah's role as the creator of this conflict. But what is the magnet, what is the pressure point, what is the hook to get this group to accept a cease-fire, to stop shooting and to stop kidnapping soldiers from across the border of another country? THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I would hope it would be international pressure on not only Hezbollah, the group of Hezbollah within Lebanon, but also its sponsors. And that's the whole purpose of the United States working with allies and friends, is to send a clear message that sponsoring terror is unacceptable. It's the great challenge of the 21st century, really. Q Do you -- THE PRESIDENT: Let me finish for a minute. Q I'm sorry.. THE PRESIDENT: It is the great challenge of this century and it's this: As young democracies flourish, terrorists try to stop their progress. And it's the great challenge of the United States and others who are blessed with living in free countries. Not only do terrorists try to stop the advance of democracy through killing innocent people within those countries, they also try to shape the will of the western world by killing innocent westerners. They try to spread their jihadist message -- a message I call, it's totalitarian in nature -- Islamic radicalism, Islamic fascism, they try to spread it as well by taking the attack to those of us who love freedom. ================================================== ===== And as far as this administration is concerned, we clearly see the problem and we're going to continue to work to advance stable, free countries. We don't expect every country to look like the United States, but we do want countries to accept some basic conditions for a vibrant society -- human rights, human decency, the power of the people to determine the fate of their governments. And, admittedly, this is hard work because it flies in the face of previous policy, which basically says stability is more important than form of government. And as a result of that policy, anger and resentment bubbled forth with an attack, with a series of attacks, the most dramatic of which was on September the 11th. ================================================== ====== You know, your question is can we get people to -- a terrorist group to change their attitude. What we can do is we can get state sponsors of terror to understand this behavior is unacceptable, and that we can convince some people in terrorist groups that there is a better way forward for them and their families. Remember, Hezbollah is a political party within Lebanon. They actually ran people for office. The problem is, is that they're a political party with a militia that is armed by foreign nations and, obviously, this political party with militia was willing to try to influence the Middle East through unprovoked attacks. And what Condi is working on and I work on is to remind people about the stakes in the Middle East. And those stakes include not only helping the Lebanese government firm up its democracy -- remember, we worked with the French two years ago to boot out Syria. Syria was inside Lebanon and we felt that in order for a democracy to flourish, Syria needed to remove not only her troops, but her agents, her intelligence agents, for example. And, obviously, there are some in the region that don't want the Lebanese government to succeed. I also happen to believe that as Prime Minister Olmert was making progress in reaching out to President Abbas and others in the region to develop a Palestinian state, that that caused a terrorist reaction. Remember, this all started with the kidnapping of an Israeli soldier by militant Hamas, followed shortly thereafter by the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah. And, finally, the third most notable battleground in the advance of liberty is Iraq. It's interesting, if you go back to the work of Mr. Zarqawi, he talked about fomenting sectarian violence in order to stop the advance of democracy. The challenge of the 21st century is for free nations to help those who aspire to liberty. And, you know, the first question is, do people aspire to liberty? And the answer is, absolutely -- look at the 12 million people who voted in Iraq. Or look at the people who went to the polls in Lebanon. It's just clear to me that there will be terrorist activities that will try to stop people from living a decent, hopeful life. And what you're watching now is the diplomatic efforts to address the problem. I know there's -- I sense a certain impatience in your voice about diplomacy coming to a conclusion. What Secretary Rice is doing, as well as me, is we are dealing with a lot of different interests. Remember, each nation at the Security Council has got its own domestic issues to deal with, as well, and so it is -- I wish things happened quicker in the diplomatic realm -- sometimes it takes a while to get things done. But what the American people need to know is we've got a strategy -- a strategy for freedom in the Middle East which protects the American people in the long run. And we've got a strategy to deal with the situations that arise in the Middle East -- first Lebanon; of course, the Iranian nuclear weapon issue. And as you remember, right before the G8, the question on your mind was would we ever get a resolution out of the U.N. on the Iranians' desire to have a nuclear weapon, as well as whether or not we'd ever get a resolution out of the U.N. to deal with North Korea. As a matter of fact, there was great skepticism, I felt, in some circles, as to whether or not we'd be able to put a diplomacy in place that would deal with these two very difficult problems. And, in fact, during the G8, two resolutions were passed -- by the way, those resolutions overshadowed by the situation in Lebanon. And I'm confident that working with our friends, if we stay on principle and remind people of the stakes, that we'll be able to accomplish the diplomatic objectives that we have set out -- which is dealing with this problem and addressing the long-term issues. A couple more questions, and we'll get out -- Suzanne.

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	MattK: That is one dangerous guy to let loose in front of any group who are permitted to question him. (A PR agent's nightmare) Dumping the silly party political stuff which is of no value to the US as a whole and just creates division and hate (and, as usual, is pounced upon by those with a need to defend on GFY). The underlying implications of that article are dangerous and, if US policy is to be taken as what comes out of George's mouth - there is a serious lack of comprehension of the real world - right from the first sentence. The first words are not from Bush "Boasting to reporters about his plan to democratize the entire world", - however, if that is an accurate "boast", there are challenges ahead since other countries will object to any one nation imposing their views on another. There will also be a price to pay for any attempt to do so - and not helpful to the electorate who entrusted this guy to represent them. Thanks a lot to the current admin, the US has already stepped on to the downwards spiral and that will continue even after this admin have departed. Next time it may be useful to elect an admininstration with some basic qualities for governing - then there may be some hope of not stepping naively into the mouth of the dragon and have a chance of reversing hard times ahead. Very sad to see the intense division within the US - nurtured and promoted by the current admin, and also the enormous damage they have caused at all levels - not just within the US, but elsewhere. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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MattK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 492	Read this site for more info about "blowback", a term first used by the CIA in the 60's to describe people rebelling against US-sponsored dictators in their countries: http://www.chaostan.com/whydotheyhateus.html