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kenny · 06-19-2002, 05:11 PM

I recieved this email reguarding my account I tried to get in contact someone by phone but got nothing. Can anyone see what copyrights I broke???

Your account has been deactivated due the reasons below.
Thanks~Kristin

At 06:01 PM 6/19/2002 -0700, you wrote:

NOTICE of COPYRIGHT-TRADEMARK, or RIGHT of PUBLICITY INFRINGEMENT <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

APIC - WORLDWIDE

3325 Griffin Road

Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33312

(954) 983-7312

Our association, the Association for the Protection of Internet Copyright ("APIC") (<http://www.apic-worldwide.com>), an Internet organization dedicated to the continued education of copyright law and enforcement of such law on behalf of our members, has been notified by one of our members, that a web site, is infringing upon our member's intellectual property rights. This site is hosted by your organization . APIC is an authorized agent, and has a good faith belief that the copyrighted work described in the paragraph below is being used in manner that is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent(s) or the law.

Anyone profitting from theft of property can be held liable under the RICO Act in the U.S.

TOPBUCKS ID 3326

Date: June 19, 2002

To:

//--MY INFO--//

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Infringing URLs:

? SHAW INTERNET

http://naughtyxxxland.com/free/tgp/b..._absolute.html

Fletch XXX · 06-19-2002, 05:13 PM

I got an email from Nintendo last week claiming I had "nintendo" in one of my meta tags.

Pete · 06-19-2002, 05:13 PM

You just got caught using copyright images that you dont have the rights to

quiet · 06-19-2002, 05:15 PM

so is that fresh photos content in your gallery? did you pay for it?

kenny · 06-19-2002, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pete
You just got caught using copyright images that you dont have the rights to

I just bought those 2 days ago fro zipcontent, thank you

volante · 06-19-2002, 05:21 PM

Lol, APICS aren't renowned for their accuracy - I had a similar email once concerning some pornstar pics on a gallery I made.

The pics were from the sponsor I was promoting on the gallery...

kenny · 06-19-2002, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
so is that fresh photos content in your gallery? did you pay for it?

http://www.zipcontent.com/members/pi...roup/page1.asp

paid for them by paypal

quiet · 06-19-2002, 05:37 PM

well, regardless if you're in the right or not (though it wouldn't surprise me) - i'll say this. APIC is a fucking joke. one of the most unprofessional 'organisations' around. i have a massive amount of exclusive, copyrighted content - and i'd never consider using thoses fools.

a couple of months ago they were accusing lens of support copyright violators LOL.

quiet · 06-19-2002, 05:40 PM

here's the thread:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=57835

hyper · 06-19-2002, 05:42 PM

well it seems like the sponsor should require proof before taking action

kenny · 06-19-2002, 05:42 PM

Who is this APIC? And if he thinks I stole content why don't he confront me instead of telling my sponsor?

clickpimp · 06-19-2002, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
Who is this APIC? And if he thinks I stole content why don't he confront me instead of telling my sponsor?

i think he'll be taking on all comers bare knuckle at Internext.

kenny · 06-19-2002, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
well it seems like the sponsor should require proof before taking action

you got that right, topbucks shouldn't be so quick to jump sides

quiet · 06-19-2002, 05:48 PM

some people play the role of bully better than others....

kenny · 06-19-2002, 05:52 PM

anyone know the best way to contact topbucks? phone? email that wouldn't take 3 days to get a answer? The main reason why I posted this here is because I know they come here often.
I don't have to much in topbucks, but damn it I didn't make and submit all the galleries for my health

playa · 06-19-2002, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny

Your account has been deactivated due the reasons below.
Thanks~Kristin

Geez,, they actually said Thanks,,,

hyper · 06-19-2002, 05:56 PM

[email protected]

Contact Allison.. They will get it all straightened out.
She does an extremely good job in taking care of the webmasters

kenny · 06-19-2002, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
here's the thread:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=57835

This APIC sounds like a fucking idiot, they need a new guy to do that

RAM · 06-19-2002, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
well it seems like the sponsor should require proof before taking action

Here is How we deal with it:

1. What image(s) is the claim regarding, including a url, such as http://www.domain.com/imagename.jpg. If all the images on a page are the same single copyright holder, than a page name is sufficient.

2. Who owns the image(s) for which the claim is made.

3. What is the web page that the image(s) appears on with one of our affiliate codes? Such as http://www.domain.com/pagename.htm

Please repeat the above for each copyright holder, please do not combine claims because we cannot identify which image belongs to which copyright holder.

As you can see we need proof before we Nuke a Account.

hyper · 06-19-2002, 06:13 PM

right thats what you guys went through before..

you asked for proof
and all you got was immature bullshit from apic

Allison · 06-19-2002, 06:13 PM

Kenny... I just got your email about 5 minutes ago. you can icq me at 120353154 so we can work this out. TopBucks complies with APIC, but we do understand that sometimes the content is correctly licensed and errors can happen. Once we figure this out, I will be happy to reactivate your account.

Thnx

~Alli

kenny · 06-19-2002, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RAM

Here is How we deal with it:

1. What image(s) is the claim regarding, including a url, such as http://www.domain.com/imagename.jpg. If all the images on a page are the same single copyright holder, than a page name is sufficient.

2. Who owns the image(s) for which the claim is made.

3. What is the web page that the image(s) appears on with one of our affiliate codes? Such as http://www.domain.com/pagename.htm

Please repeat the above for each copyright holder, please do not combine claims because we cannot identify which image belongs to which copyright holder.

As you can see we need proof before we Nuke a Account.

Thats how these types of matters should be dealt with

Instead of trashing someones account, on what one person says,
hell that means if I don't like someone I can get their account trashed with ease

Wizzo · 06-19-2002, 06:19 PM

Yea, Allison or any other sponsors working APIC, should take a look at some type of policy, because APIC does make a large number of mistakes...So, requiring proof shouldn't be that big of deal and it would protect those who are trying to make a honest living.

Gary · 06-19-2002, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Allison
Kenny... I just got your email about 5 minutes ago. you can icq me at 120353154 so we can work this out. TopBucks complies with APIC, but we do understand that sometimes the content is correctly licensed and errors can happen. Once we figure this out, I will be happy to reactivate your account.

Thnx

~Alli

So APIC says jump, and you jump. Nice.

cosis · 06-19-2002, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary

So APIC says jump, and you jump. Nice.

Lensman · 06-19-2002, 06:31 PM

Ram didn't mention that we give the webmaster a notice and demand for proof or removal before terminating him.

kenny · 06-19-2002, 06:37 PM

She is going to fix it, but they do need a better policy reguarding these matters especially if the word is coming from somebody that is known to make many mistakes

cosis · 06-19-2002, 06:39 PM

this demonstrates APIC's uselessness

hyper · 06-19-2002, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary

So APIC says jump, and you jump. Nice.

ahh thats not nice.. there are plenty of people that work there.

Mistakes do happen. with every company
Whether its CTC not working,
servers crashing,
somebody not demanding proof the content is licensed before terminating an account.

it can all get worked out

Let me tell you my Topbucks story.

They moved servers or something and the scripts were clashing.
Signups were disappearing others were showing up.

When the problem was fixed.
Topbucks not only paid me for the signups that i had,
they also paid me for the signups that were falsely generated

zubr · 06-19-2002, 06:40 PM

Buy your content - thats the answer....

Licensing content became essential.... They'll do anything not to pay you

Fletch XXX · 06-19-2002, 06:40 PM

Most of the time APIC is straight up full of bullshit.

I have never seen such illiterate claims in my life, they attack so many webmasters illegally, I would like to see some actions taken against them.

Its bullshit. and the way companies are afraid of them is even more silly.

Seriously, you guys should watch this shit more, APIC is emailing people regarding pics they have no idea who owns and claiming the pics are not licensed and shit, very sneaky tactics, not to mention, the last few cases I have been told about, have ALL BEEN MADE IN ERROR.

This one being like the 4th now in the past couple months.

Does APIC even check out who owns the pics?

They emailed TOPBUCKS? For what? because they are scavenging for Topbucks affiliate links to report you? Did they not contact your host? Or is it some assdawg making 6 bucks an hour digging through gallery after gallery digging up affiliate links?

Emailing the host could be a better move, anytime someone has beef they email the host, the host issues an email of compliance or cease n desist, but these guys attack you on affiliate links? Unprofessional, and ridiculous to say the least.

APIC if you are reading this, eat a big dick ya pussy. You and your silly org, you dont fight for the artist, or copyrights, you eliminate one right to save another, it doesnt work that way.

Show some fucking backbone, these APIC pussies bully whoever they want, email whoever they want, and everyone simply believes what they say and accept it. Fuck that.

APIC, where were you when someone stole my paysite designs or when someone ripped off 3 of my AVS? or snagged my nice new blinking gifs from a recent gallery and used them on their own?

hmmm thats not worth your time huh? Go dig through galleries you fucking parasite.

APIC is a fucking joke, I wouldnt comply with shit until my attorney looked over their claims, and honestly, I would attack them on all fronts with full force had they or if they ever, interrupt my funds flow. Or traffic in ANY WAY. Let alone contact a sponsor and have my account nuked.

This shit should make everyone who buys content nervous.

You are telling me some guy can buy nice content, use that content (obviously better than the shit sponsors provide you) to promote TOPBUCKS sites, and Topbucks has the nerve to believe APICs word before even contacting the affiliate, who is spending hard earned money to promote their sites? Topbucks you are biting the hand that feeds.

I consider APIC like an asshole with a "No Fur" sign walking in a Leather Outlet store.Out of place, and needs to be put out of their misery.

Fucking losers.

Fuck APIC.

Allison · 06-19-2002, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary

So APIC says jump, and you jump. Nice.

From experience, most times APIC contacts us, the webmaster is using stolen content. APIC can be wrong, but with the system we have here at TopBucks we can easily work it out when they are wrong. We are able to deactivate accounts temporarily without losing any info or sales data for the webmaster.

Our policy here at TopBucks is to deactivate the account, contact the webmaster and ask them to either remove the images or provide license information. Once they do that we do reactivate their accounts.

The support message from kristin to kenny seemed a bit unclear about this policy and may have been due to the fact that kristin is new to TopBucks. I do apologize Kenny if that message seemed a bit harsh. It seems like now (after icq contact) we have worked this all out and everything is okay.

If anyone else has questions please feel free to get in touch

~Alli

quiet · 06-19-2002, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zubr
Buy your content - thats the answer....

Licensing content became essential.... They'll do anything not to pay you

hmm, did you happen to read the thread?

Ludedude · 06-19-2002, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Ram didn't mention that we give the webmaster a notice and demand for proof or removal before terminating him.

As well you fucking should. Due process and innocent until proven guilty yada yada yada. Yes, I know this isn't court but really sponsors shouldn't be so quick to throw their webmasters under a bus on the say-so of some pompous self-serving asshole.

I remember how you guys dealt with this thing a few months ago. TopBucks and others could learn a thing or two.

cosis · 06-19-2002, 06:46 PM

Top bucks should consider changing their policy and deleting any emails from APIC so they aren't humilated again

Allison · 06-19-2002, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosis
Top bucks should consider changing their policy and deleting any emails from APIC so they aren't humilated again

I don't think our policy is harsh at all. We give webmasters the opportunity to work this out and again it is a temporary deactivation which is easily undone on our end when the webmaster makes an effort to work this out with us and/or APIC

~Alli

CDSmith · 06-19-2002, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Allison
I don't think our policy is harsh at all. We give webmasters the opportunity to work this out and again it is a temporary deactivation which is easily undone on our end when the webmaster makes an effort to work this out with us and/or APIC

~Alli

Allison, just a thought here.... why not work it out with the webmaster <i>FIRST</i> and THEN deactivate if the webmaster is <u>proven</u> to be in error? (Like Lensman does)

Again, just a thought.

payrollpete · 06-19-2002, 07:50 PM

allison,

you should be demanding proof before deactivating anything, who knows how hard the guy has been tryin to generate traffic to slang to you or whatever

you know what i mean?

it's all good, top bucks is top notch, but, you really shouldn't jump when others tell you to

payrollpete · 06-19-2002, 07:50 PM

cdsmith

you beat me to it dude

cherrylula · 06-19-2002, 07:50 PM

What is the origin of APIC?

Somebody obviously got pissed off enough and got ripped off several times, and felt the need to start something like this.

I'm not saying its a bad thing, but just as MADD was started, I am sure APIC has a reason for its being.

Who is behind APIC???

What we need is some motherfucking cyber bounty hunters to get rid of worthless, theiving webmasters.

~~oh wait~~ now I see~~

Membership dues? They want membership dues to join their association? Is this a UNION?

Yet another brilliant marketing ploy.

Gary · 06-19-2002, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Allison

I don't think our policy is harsh at all. We give webmasters the opportunity to work this out and again it is a temporary deactivation which is easily undone on our end when the webmaster makes an effort to work this out with us and/or APIC

~Alli

So, if APIC writes you an email, you then place the burden on YOUR webmasters to prove they are not thieves? What a nice Stalinesque policy. Its actually pretty disturbing.

CDSmith · 06-19-2002, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
What is the origin of APIC? Who is behind APIC??? Membership dues? They want membership dues to join their association? Is this a UNION?

It's all rather hazy, but there is a guy that heads up APIC, but I forget his name at the moment. They have their roots centered in the whole Alyssa Milano contraversy from 4 years ago. Her mom went on a rampage to have her daughter's illegally used pics removed from the net. A bunch of rather noteworthy models also joined the crusade, one of them being miss Alley Baggett. I remember hearing about quite a few webmasters being sued back then, and rightfully so.

These days APIC is there also as a service to content producers, who can buy a membership there in order to have their content policed and protected, so in that regard APIC is a very valuable service. But there are cases like this one where the webmaster is NOT at fault and has been falsely accused (by some unseen party apparently, APIC probably doesn't act alone in these matters), so the point people are trying to make about giving the webmaster the benefit of the doubt and allowing them to either remove the content or show proof of permission-of-use or ownership is a valid one.

quiet · 06-19-2002, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
[B] It's all rather hazy, but there is a guy that heads up APIC, but I forget his name at the moment.

his name is steve eastin (sic). though i don't think he runs apic anymore.

LoveAsianChicks · 06-19-2002, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
well it seems like the sponsor should require proof before taking action

I don't think its wise to use topbucks anymore if the company removes accounts so quickly.
They should get all their info correct and not delete an account on the spot.
Shame on you topbucks.

CDSmith · 06-19-2002, 08:14 PM

That's right, Steve Easton was his name.
I'm not sure of his status as "head of APIC" at the moment either.

cherrylula · 06-19-2002, 08:16 PM

I can definitely see something like APIC being a valuable service, and btw thank you for answering my question CDSmith

However if this association originates from Alyssa Milano's mom (yeah I know the whole story lol) then well, it seems likely that these people would hate adult webmasters in general and very possibly are biased when it comes to our part of the net.

Hey, maybe I am wrong and just jumping on APIC and really don't know much about them. But I do know that I have grown up in Hollywood, and when someone like Alyssa Milano and her mom is mentioned it just does not lead me to believe that their intentions are in our favor.

(ok so i have to mention the part about how most people wanted to see alyssa come to the "dark side" anyhow--term quote jenna)

Kyle's mom from Southpark (sheila b--?--sky)

LoveAsianChicks · 06-19-2002, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Ram didn't mention that we give the webmaster a notice and demand for proof or removal before terminating him.

Exactly you contact the webmaster FIRST and remove later. Good job Lensman.

Topbucks is a fucking joke to simply delete an account instantly. I'm actually mad a company I thought was pretty good will act like that.

quiet · 06-19-2002, 08:19 PM

i know enough about them to say stay the fuck away from them if you produce content. they are like the slow, 6th grade bully. ask around....

of course, this is all imho :)

CDSmith · 06-19-2002, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
i know enough about them to say stay the fuck away from them if you produce content. they are like the slow, 6th grade bully. ask around....

of course, this is all imho

I think I remember seeing an APIC logo on the Oliver Klozov sites a while back. Maybe Glyn has some good insight about it.

What I do know is that APIC definitely serves a purpose, and that purpose should mainly be about protecting the rights of the owners who own legal copyrights and electronic intellectual property. As far as Alyssa Milano and her mom goes, they were just sick of seeing alyssa's pictures being illegally spread all over the net, and I don't blame them one bit. Why should a hundred thousand so-called webmasters make a fortune from pics that they stole or "doctored up" in some way?? The Milano's aren't against webmasters, she has an income from modelling just like a lot of stars have, so legitimate webmasters are her friends too.

It's about how wrong it is to use pics on your website when you have no legal right to do so. It's about people who fuck over content producers, and it's about doing what's right for a change. And APIC charges for their services because donations just don't cut it.

cherrylula · 06-19-2002, 08:42 PM

yeah, but I'm sure as with most "non-profit" organizations, the people in charge at APIC make a nice, FAT paycheck.

Again, its about money.

06-19-2002, 05:11 PM	#1
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	Hey TopBucks, what did I do? I recieved this email reguarding my account I tried to get in contact someone by phone but got nothing. Can anyone see what copyrights I broke??? Your account has been deactivated due the reasons below. Thanks~Kristin At 06:01 PM 6/19/2002 -0700, you wrote: NOTICE of COPYRIGHT-TRADEMARK, or RIGHT of PUBLICITY INFRINGEMENT <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> APIC - WORLDWIDE 3325 Griffin Road Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33312 (954) 983-7312 Our association, the Association for the Protection of Internet Copyright ("APIC") (<http://www.apic-worldwide.com>), an Internet organization dedicated to the continued education of copyright law and enforcement of such law on behalf of our members, has been notified by one of our members, that a web site, is infringing upon our member's intellectual property rights. This site is hosted by your organization . APIC is an authorized agent, and has a good faith belief that the copyrighted work described in the paragraph below is being used in manner that is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent(s) or the law. Anyone profitting from theft of property can be held liable under the RICO Act in the U.S. TOPBUCKS ID 3326 Date: June 19, 2002 To: //--MY INFO--// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Infringing URLs: ? SHAW INTERNET http://naughtyxxxland.com/free/tgp/b..._absolute.html __________________ 7

06-19-2002, 05:13 PM	#2
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06-19-2002, 05:13 PM	#3
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06-19-2002, 05:42 PM	#10
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	well it seems like the sponsor should require proof before taking action __________________

06-19-2002, 05:42 PM	#11
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	Who is this APIC? And if he thinks I stole content why don't he confront me instead of telling my sponsor? __________________ 7

06-19-2002, 05:15 PM	#4
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	so is that fresh photos content in your gallery? did you pay for it?

06-19-2002, 05:21 PM	#6
volante Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LAX Immigration Posts: 2,940	Lol, APICS aren't renowned for their accuracy - I had a similar email once concerning some pornstar pics on a gallery I made. The pics were from the sponsor I was promoting on the gallery...

06-19-2002, 05:37 PM	#8
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	well, regardless if you're in the right or not (though it wouldn't surprise me) - i'll say this. APIC is a fucking joke. one of the most unprofessional 'organisations' around. i have a massive amount of exclusive, copyrighted content - and i'd never consider using thoses fools. a couple of months ago they were accusing lens of support copyright violators LOL.

06-19-2002, 05:40 PM	#9
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	here's the thread: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=57835

06-19-2002, 05:48 PM	#14
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	some people play the role of bully better than others....

06-19-2002, 05:52 PM	#15
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	anyone know the best way to contact topbucks? phone? email that wouldn't take 3 days to get a answer? The main reason why I posted this here is because I know they come here often. I don't have to much in topbucks, but damn it I didn't make and submit all the galleries for my health __________________ 7

06-19-2002, 05:56 PM	#17
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	[email protected] Contact Allison.. They will get it all straightened out. She does an extremely good job in taking care of the webmasters __________________

06-19-2002, 06:13 PM	#20
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	right thats what you guys went through before.. you asked for proof and all you got was immature bullshit from apic __________________

06-19-2002, 06:13 PM	#21
Allison Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: http://www.topbucks.com Posts: 2,068	Kenny... I just got your email about 5 minutes ago. you can icq me at 120353154 so we can work this out. TopBucks complies with APIC, but we do understand that sometimes the content is correctly licensed and errors can happen. Once we figure this out, I will be happy to reactivate your account. Thnx ~Alli __________________ Allison President TopBucks.com\| PinkVisual.com\| [email protected] Follow Me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/PV_Alli ICQ: 120353154 Check out PVLocker.com

06-19-2002, 06:19 PM	#23
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Yea, Allison or any other sponsors working APIC, should take a look at some type of policy, because APIC does make a large number of mistakes...So, requiring proof shouldn't be that big of deal and it would protect those who are trying to make a honest living. __________________ Looking for Opportunity! Last edited by Wizzo; 06-19-2002 at 06:22 PM..

06-19-2002, 06:31 PM	#26
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Ram didn't mention that we give the webmaster a notice and demand for proof or removal before terminating him.

06-19-2002, 06:37 PM	#27
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	She is going to fix it, but they do need a better policy reguarding these matters especially if the word is coming from somebody that is known to make many mistakes __________________ 7

06-19-2002, 06:39 PM	#28
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,281	this demonstrates APIC's uselessness

06-19-2002, 06:40 PM	#30
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06-19-2002, 06:46 PM	#35
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,281	Top bucks should consider changing their policy and deleting any emails from APIC so they aren't humilated again

06-19-2002, 07:50 PM	#38
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	allison, you should be demanding proof before deactivating anything, who knows how hard the guy has been tryin to generate traffic to slang to you or whatever you know what i mean? it's all good, top bucks is top notch, but, you really shouldn't jump when others tell you to

06-19-2002, 07:50 PM	#40
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	What is the origin of APIC? Somebody obviously got pissed off enough and got ripped off several times, and felt the need to start something like this. I'm not saying its a bad thing, but just as MADD was started, I am sure APIC has a reason for its being. Who is behind APIC??? What we need is some motherfucking cyber bounty hunters to get rid of worthless, theiving webmasters. ~~oh wait~~ now I see~~ Membership dues? They want membership dues to join their association? Is this a UNION? Yet another brilliant marketing ploy. Last edited by cherrylula; 06-19-2002 at 07:53 PM..

06-19-2002, 08:14 PM	#45
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06-19-2002, 08:16 PM	#46
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I can definitely see something like APIC being a valuable service, and btw thank you for answering my question CDSmith However if this association originates from Alyssa Milano's mom (yeah I know the whole story lol) then well, it seems likely that these people would hate adult webmasters in general and very possibly are biased when it comes to our part of the net. Hey, maybe I am wrong and just jumping on APIC and really don't know much about them. But I do know that I have grown up in Hollywood, and when someone like Alyssa Milano and her mom is mentioned it just does not lead me to believe that their intentions are in our favor. (ok so i have to mention the part about how most people wanted to see alyssa come to the "dark side" anyhow--term quote jenna) Kyle's mom from Southpark (sheila b--?--sky)

06-19-2002, 08:19 PM	#48
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	i know enough about them to say stay the fuck away from them if you produce content. they are like the slow, 6th grade bully. ask around.... of course, this is all imho :) Last edited by quiet; 06-19-2002 at 08:20 PM..

06-19-2002, 08:42 PM	#50
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	yeah, but I'm sure as with most "non-profit" organizations, the people in charge at APIC make a nice, FAT paycheck. Again, its about money.