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[Labret] · 06-20-2002, 07:03 PM

Like 99% of us, I have two drives in my machine.

Master has the OS, and slave has all the warez, mp3s, content and other misc crap. I have written tons of shit over the last couple years to my 2nd drive with various operating systems.

For the last year, I have had Win2000 Pro as main os. Recently, I switched back to Win98 and when I browse thru the second drive, everything written to the drive with Win2000 is gibberish. But it reads everything written previously by 98 and ME no problem.

I stick back in the master drive with win2k on it and read the second drive, and all is well again.

Win2k writes to the drive some thing that Win98 is not understanding. What is going on and is there anyway to fix it?

I got 50 gig of mp3 I need to reach from win98 god damnit.

hyper · 06-20-2002, 07:07 PM

some kind of built in HD compression?

hyper · 06-20-2002, 07:10 PM

Win9x machines use FAT32, the older of the two major Windows file systems. NTFS is the newer file system which i guess win2k uses

A Win2K machine can translate a file from an NTFS drive into something a Win9x machine can understand and can serve the file to a Win9x computer. But if you format a drive on a Win9x machine as NTFS, the Win9x machine can't read files on that local drive because Win9x can't translate NTFS. Consequently, if you create a Win2K Pro and Win9x dual-boot machine, you'll most likely want to keep all your drives in FAT32.

To change file systems, you need to either convert or reformat the drive, depending on which direction you're moving. If you're moving from FAT32 to NTFS, you can simply convert the drive by using the command

convert <drive>: /fs:ntfs [/v]
The optional /v parameter gives you details about the conversion process as it proceeds.

Moving from NTFS to FAT32 requires backing up your drive, reformatting it, and restoring your data.

jimmyf · 06-20-2002, 07:15 PM

hyper beat me...

Gemini · 06-20-2002, 07:15 PM

Another Gates trick, altho other software companies do it too. Win2k is NOT backwards compatible. Either try and save via Win2k to be Win98 format or maybe there is a utillity out there that will translate it. Never heard of one but there might just be one. But some of MS's products do allow saving to previous formats.

Autocad is another one that pulls that stunt. Some sort of marketing ploy so they don't have to continue dealing with the support issues.

When you lay out 12k or more for a software (autocad) and they 'discontinue' support within a year or two it reallllly sux.

[Labret] · 06-20-2002, 07:16 PM

awesome, thanks for the replies.

What a big pain in my ass.

jimmyf · 06-20-2002, 07:18 PM

Next time don't use NTFS, I think it defaults, or ask you and the default is NTFS . That's NT shit..... I hated it NT... but Win2K is built with it...

I did a bunch of stuff for a company that had just bought Great Plains and it had to have NTFS a few years ago....

FATPad · 06-20-2002, 07:21 PM

Get a copy of Partition Magic and change the partition type from NTFS to FAT32.

[Labret] · 06-20-2002, 07:23 PM

The slave drive is Fat32, and was just written to it by Win2000. I can read everything on the drive except things written to it by Win2000.

Confusing, I think I will just call it a wash and reinstall win2k, I loved it, just had problems gaming on it.

FATPad · 06-20-2002, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornopete
I don't think it is due to NTFS. If his HD was NTFS win'98 would not see it all. NTFS is a different file system all together, win'98 can only see FAT/FAT32

That's true. I thought about that right after I posted.

Format c:

Nina · 06-20-2002, 07:24 PM

you know with a topic like "bizarre problem" I was hoping for something a little more exciting from the likes of you Labret.

[Labret] · 06-20-2002, 07:30 PM

Well... now that you mention it, I do sorta have this problem. I think it may be roids?

Is this what hemmies look like? It burns like hell.

foe · 06-20-2002, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
Win9x machines use FAT32, the older of the two major Windows file systems. NTFS is the newer file system which i guess win2k uses

A Win2K machine can translate a file from an NTFS drive into something a Win9x machine can understand and can serve the file to a Win9x computer. But if you format a drive on a Win9x machine as NTFS, the Win9x machine can't read files on that local drive because Win9x can't translate NTFS. Consequently, if you create a Win2K Pro and Win9x dual-boot machine, you'll most likely want to keep all your drives in FAT32.

To change file systems, you need to either convert or reformat the drive, depending on which direction you're moving. If you're moving from FAT32 to NTFS, you can simply convert the drive by using the command

convert <drive>: /fs:ntfs [/v]
The optional /v parameter gives you details about the conversion process as it proceeds.

Moving from NTFS to FAT32 requires backing up your drive, reformatting it, and restoring your data.

Exactly what he said

Nina · 06-20-2002, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
Well... now that you mention it, I do sorta have this problem. I think it may be roids?

Is this what hemmies look like? It burns like hell.

holy shit. Labret, I think I love you.
Are you coming to my party in Sept?

[Labret] · 06-20-2002, 08:59 PM

Uhm, my magic 8 balls says its "highly unlikely".

MikeEP · 06-20-2002, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
Well... now that you mention it,

...hahaha...i knew that was coming

But fuck, i can park my SUV in that ass...

Nina · 06-20-2002, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
Uhm, my magic 8 balls says its "highly unlikely".

too bad, i'll have to have my crush from afar, i guess that's how those things go anyway.

Rochard · 06-20-2002, 10:45 PM

Format:C
Format:D
Format everything and install windows 3.11

dipshit moron retard · 06-20-2002, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
The slave drive is Fat32, and was just written to it by Win2000. I can read everything on the drive except things written to it by Win2000.

Confusing, I think I will just call it a wash and reinstall win2k, I loved it, just had problems gaming on it.

W I N X P

seriously. winxp is awesome, runs games perfect, will read the drive with no probs. if you need an iso lemme know.

06-20-2002, 07:03 PM	#1
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	Bizarre problem Like 99% of us, I have two drives in my machine. Master has the OS, and slave has all the warez, mp3s, content and other misc crap. I have written tons of shit over the last couple years to my 2nd drive with various operating systems. For the last year, I have had Win2000 Pro as main os. Recently, I switched back to Win98 and when I browse thru the second drive, everything written to the drive with Win2000 is gibberish. But it reads everything written previously by 98 and ME no problem. I stick back in the master drive with win2k on it and read the second drive, and all is well again. Win2k writes to the drive some thing that Win98 is not understanding. What is going on and is there anyway to fix it? I got 50 gig of mp3 I need to reach from win98 god damnit.

06-20-2002, 07:07 PM	#2
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	some kind of built in HD compression? __________________

06-20-2002, 07:10 PM	#3
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	Win9x machines use FAT32, the older of the two major Windows file systems. NTFS is the newer file system which i guess win2k uses A Win2K machine can translate a file from an NTFS drive into something a Win9x machine can understand and can serve the file to a Win9x computer. But if you format a drive on a Win9x machine as NTFS, the Win9x machine can't read files on that local drive because Win9x can't translate NTFS. Consequently, if you create a Win2K Pro and Win9x dual-boot machine, you'll most likely want to keep all your drives in FAT32. To change file systems, you need to either convert or reformat the drive, depending on which direction you're moving. If you're moving from FAT32 to NTFS, you can simply convert the drive by using the command convert <drive>: /fs:ntfs [/v] The optional /v parameter gives you details about the conversion process as it proceeds. Moving from NTFS to FAT32 requires backing up your drive, reformatting it, and restoring your data. __________________ Last edited by hyper; 06-20-2002 at 07:13 PM..

06-20-2002, 07:15 PM	#4
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06-20-2002, 07:18 PM	#7
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	Next time don't use NTFS, I think it defaults, or ask you and the default is NTFS . That's NT shit..... I hated it NT... but Win2K is built with it... I did a bunch of stuff for a company that had just bought Great Plains and it had to have NTFS a few years ago.... __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting Last edited by jimmyf; 06-20-2002 at 07:20 PM..

06-20-2002, 07:15 PM	#5
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Another Gates trick, altho other software companies do it too. Win2k is NOT backwards compatible. Either try and save via Win2k to be Win98 format or maybe there is a utillity out there that will translate it. Never heard of one but there might just be one. But some of MS's products do allow saving to previous formats. Autocad is another one that pulls that stunt. Some sort of marketing ploy so they don't have to continue dealing with the support issues. When you lay out 12k or more for a software (autocad) and they 'discontinue' support within a year or two it reallllly sux.

06-20-2002, 07:16 PM	#6
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	awesome, thanks for the replies. What a big pain in my ass.

06-20-2002, 07:21 PM	#8
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Get a copy of Partition Magic and change the partition type from NTFS to FAT32. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

06-20-2002, 07:23 PM	#9
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	The slave drive is Fat32, and was just written to it by Win2000. I can read everything on the drive except things written to it by Win2000. Confusing, I think I will just call it a wash and reinstall win2k, I loved it, just had problems gaming on it.

06-20-2002, 07:24 PM	#11
Nina Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 2,687	you know with a topic like "bizarre problem" I was hoping for something a little more exciting from the likes of you Labret.

06-20-2002, 07:30 PM	#12
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	Well... now that you mention it, I do sorta have this problem. I think it may be roids? Is this what hemmies look like? It burns like hell.

06-20-2002, 08:59 PM	#15
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	Uhm, my magic 8 balls says its "highly unlikely".

06-20-2002, 10:45 PM	#18
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