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  • RichGuy
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    • Aug 2006
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    #1

    Is a million $ a lot dough (aside from not having it)

    (aside from not having it)
  • Jakke PNG
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    • Nov 2001
    • 20306

    #2
    Million lasts a long long time if you have it in liquid funds and aren't planning to buy ferraris or live jetset life.
    ..and I'm off.

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    • spazlabz
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      • Jul 2003
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      #3
      I agree, thats a bundle of cash


      spaz

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      • squishypimp
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        • Aug 2006
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        #4
        thats alotta cash

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        • mrthumbs
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          • Apr 2002
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          #5
          Originally posted by TeenGodFather
          Million lasts a long long time if you have it in liquid funds and aren't planning to buy ferraris or live jetset life.
          10-15 year max

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          • fallenmuffin
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            • Nov 2005
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            #6
            It all depends on your living style. You can buy a house anywhere from 50,000$ to 8,000,000$. So if you bought a 130,000$ home, 36,000$ car, and lived "normally" with investments and savings you could make that million last forever. With aggressive growth mutual funds you could score 15% a year, with a 12 month CD you do 7%. That's 70,000$ just for saving your money or 150,000$ just for taking a small risk.

            Most people work 40 years at 50,000 a year thats 2,000,000 (2 million) max their lifetime. So yeah a million dollars is alot. I could live the rest of my life on a million dollars but it wouldn't include private jets and hookers, lol.

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            • SteveLightspeed
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              • Jul 2001
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              #7
              95% of American families earn $100k or less per year, before taxes. So if you look at $1m as every penny you will earn for the next 10 years, then yes, it is a lot of money.

              But is it enough to retire on before age 50? Probably not.
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              • UniversalPass Pete
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                #8
                1mill is nothing today! Don't get me wrong if someone gave it to me I would not turn it down! but $1million buys you what $400K would have bought you 7-8 years ago! and what 100K would have bought you 20-25 years ago etc.


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                • fallenmuffin
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                  95% of American families earn $100k or less per year, before taxes. So if you look at $1m as every penny you will earn for the next 10 years, then yes, it is a lot of money.

                  But is it enough to retire on before age 50? Probably not.
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                  • woj
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                    #10
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                    • Bossman
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                      #11
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                      • Atticus
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by woj
                        you should be able to live quite comfortably with a million for the rest of your life...
                        Depends on your version of comfortable.

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                        • StuartD
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                          #13
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                          • Doctor Dre
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                            95% of American families earn $100k or less per year, before taxes. So if you look at $1m as every penny you will earn for the next 10 years, then yes, it is a lot of money.

                            But is it enough to retire on before age 50? Probably not.
                            It's definitly enough to live iwthout worrying about money. I wouldn't retire for sure thought ;)
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                            • wedouglas
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                              #15
                              1 mil liquid, with a normal annual income? yes, definatly.

                              You couldn't be buying 200K cars etc, but you could live hapily and easily the rest of your life.

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                              • Jakke PNG
                                ex-TeenGodFather
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 20306

                                #16
                                Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                10-15 year max
                                What drugs are you on?
                                1 000 000 in the bank.
                                Without investing in anything..
                                intrest rate, probably around 2% for that sum.
                                1666/month intrest only.. If you live a 'normal' life, the money SHOULD last a lifetime. I probably don't even spend 1600/month on personal stuff...

                                but then again, I don't think anyone can have any kind of self-restraint if they suddenly get 1M in the bank.
                                ..and I'm off.

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                                • Jakke PNG
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                                  • Nov 2001
                                  • 20306

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Atticus
                                  Depends on your version of comfortable.
                                  Pay the bills in time, and not to worry if you have dinner tomorrow or money to fill up the tank in your car.

                                  It wouldn't get you 1st class airtrips 4 times a year for 4 week vacation in 5 star resorts. It won't get you 4 cars and a mansion.
                                  ..and I'm off.

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                                  • Bossman
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                    1666/month intrest only.. If you live a 'normal' life, the money SHOULD last a lifetime. I probably don't even spend 1600/month on personal stuff...
                                    And if you took that money to another country, then it could buy you a even better lifestyle
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                                    • samsam
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                      10-15 year max
                                      says who? if youre not living a jet set life, then interest at 5% would yield you approx $50k per year.

                                      that would keep most people going comfortably for long

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                                      • samsam
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                                        • Jun 2002
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                        10-15 year max
                                        says who? if youre not living a jet set life, then interest at 5% would yield you approx $50k per year.

                                        that would keep most people going comfortably for long

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                                        • gdog
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by samsam
                                          says who? if youre not living a jet set life, then interest at 5% would yield you approx $50k per year.

                                          that would keep most people going comfortably for long

                                          yup, add compound interest to that and in 20 years its a nice chunk of change
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                                          • rowan
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                            What drugs are you on?
                                            1 000 000 in the bank.
                                            Without investing in anything..
                                            intrest rate, probably around 2% for that sum.
                                            1666/month intrest only.. If you live a 'normal' life, the money SHOULD last a lifetime. I probably don't even spend 1600/month on personal stuff...

                                            but then again, I don't think anyone can have any kind of self-restraint if they suddenly get 1M in the bank.
                                            You're forgetting tax, and more importantly, inflation... a 2% interest rate will probably not be enough to keep the value of your capital consistent over time.

                                            Less of a concern if you don't plan to die with the equivalent of $1m in the bank though...

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                                            • Jakke PNG
                                              ex-TeenGodFather
                                              • Nov 2001
                                              • 20306

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by rowan
                                              You're forgetting tax, and more importantly, inflation... a 2% interest rate will probably not be enough to keep the value of your capital consistent over time.

                                              Less of a concern if you don't plan to die with the equivalent of $1m in the bank though...
                                              Well, in finland the capital gains tax is a solid 27,5%..
                                              So it's a net profit of 1200 / month...so if you on top of that do something, like submit a gallery once a month. you should be able to live just fine.
                                              ..and I'm off.

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                                              • mrthumbs
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by rowan
                                                You're forgetting tax, and more importantly, inflation... a 2% interest rate will probably not be enough to keep the value of your capital consistent over time.

                                                Less of a concern if you don't plan to die with the equivalent of $1m in the bank though...

                                                Yes.. and more important were talking Dollars here..

                                                1 mil with lets do something outrageous: 3% interest is $ 30k a year
                                                = 25k Euro something a year? Thats not decent living in Europe and it will
                                                be below poverty 10 years from now..

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                                                • blazi
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                                                  • Feb 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  a million dollars is nothing anymore these days, and will not take you far at all, with today's prices you are not actually sitting comfortable unless you are a billionaire at least imo...

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                                                  • mrthumbs
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                                                    • Apr 2002
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by gdog
                                                    yup, add compound interest to that and in 20 years its a nice chunk of change
                                                    Not much to compound when you have to live of interest..

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                                                    • mrthumbs
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                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 11702

                                                      #27
                                                      Oh.. and you DO pay tax over interest eh.. dont forget that.

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                                                      • mrthumbs
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                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                        • 11702

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by blazi
                                                        a million dollars is nothing anymore these days, and will not take you far at all, with today's prices you are not actually sitting comfortable unless you are a billionaire at least imo...
                                                        wellwellwell

                                                        No, to live SECURE and decent (no ferraris and expensive haibts) for at least 40-50 more years you need 2-3 mil. Put it in an excel sheet with the inflation figures, taxes etce tc and youll see you cannot go beyond 20 years with less withour touching poverty: exception: move to a 3rd world country...like thailand or something ;)

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                                                        • polish_aristocrat
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                                                          #29
                                                          I LOVE threads like this

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                                                          • rowan
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                                            Yes.. and more important were talking Dollars here..

                                                            1 mil with lets do something outrageous: 3% interest is $ 30k a year
                                                            = 25k Euro something a year? Thats not decent living in Europe and it will
                                                            be below poverty 10 years from now..
                                                            You're also ignoring inflation...

                                                            If inflation is 3% p/a then you need an effective interest income rate of 3% AFTER tax just to keep the value of your capital. You'd need to be earning 6% AFTER tax in order to cover inflation and draw a $30k p/a wage.

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                                                            • rowan
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                                                              • Mar 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              BTW... would most humans with $1m in the bank - either achieved through being spoon fed, or genuine hard work - be happy with a $USD30k annual wage?

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                                                              • Jakke PNG
                                                                ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                • 20306

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by rowan
                                                                BTW... would most humans with $1m in the bank - either achieved through being spoon fed, or genuine hard work - be happy with a $USD30k annual wage?
                                                                Most, no.
                                                                ..and I'm off.

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                                                                • slapass
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  3 million is the minimum you would need. 5% is a very doable rate in the US right now. 33% tax is where you would be in most states. So a hundred k a year after tax. That is pretty comfortable for most people. Do anything that is prductive versus destructive to the cash flow and life would be really good.

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                                                                  • rowan
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by slapass
                                                                    3 million is the minimum you would need. 5% is a very doable rate in the US right now. 33% tax is where you would be in most states. So a hundred k a year after tax. That is pretty comfortable for most people. Do anything that is prductive versus destructive to the cash flow and life would be really good.
                                                                    inflation...inflation...inflation!

                                                                    To keep the cash value of $3m in today's money you'll need $5m+ in 20 years. That's just preserving the value, $5m in 2026 will be roughly the same as $3m now.

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                                                                    • dennisthemenace
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      If saved or invested properly, yes.

                                                                      If spent, it's no different than any other amount - gone money is no money.
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                                                                      • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        bump for more discussion.......
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                                                                        • Quotealex
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                                                          10-15 year max
                                                                          If you're frugal and know a little about investment, you could live off of it for 50 years and more.

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                                                                          • free4porn
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            A million pounds please
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                                                                            • MikeVega
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              it's nice money ... but not life changing ..


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                                                                              • MikeVega
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                it's nice money ... but not life changing ..


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                                                                                • SAM SIYC
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  1 million is good spending money.....but definitely not enough for early retirement. The only thing you should do with a million imo is to invest it right away to try to make 5 million out of it!
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                                                                                  • Monstaman
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I would be able to retire in my country ...
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                                                                                    • bknoob
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I will let you know once I have it

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                                                                                      • Monstaman
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                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • Antonio
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                                                                          10-15 year max
                                                                                          oh yeah? Give me a million bucks and I wont be able to spend them in the next 200 years or so, the first thing I'm going to do is move to Mozambique - one of the poorest country in the World with all the third World shit, but boy, do they also have the BEST beaches in the World + the hottest Mulato girsl ever

                                                                                          I'm going to move there, live simple life, and just exist, sick and tired of the rat race - fuck, I want a better car, now I want bigger house, ok, I have a bigger house, but now I want to libe in a better subburb .... and you wake up in your late 70s, and you realise that you had NO life, or at least you didn't spend nearly enough time on what really matters

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                                                                                          • FreeOnes
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I would need at least 10 times more to retire and feel comfortable

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                                                                                            • madawgz
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              id say that is alot of money

                                                                                              and would last me about 5 years or so
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                                                                                              • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                It's a fair bit of money, but it really comes down to the cost of living wherever you are, and also the kind of lifestyle you plan to live

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                                                                                                • scottybuzz
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  not much for me ;)
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                                                                                                  • rodney25
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Enough for me to start a new business I guess.


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