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Doctor Dre 08-28-2006 06:22 PM

P.S. Never mind what I said in the counter-suing thing, I'm wrong... I just miss-read.

BV 08-28-2006 06:31 PM

The level of professionalism in this industry bewilders me.

spacedog 08-28-2006 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Actually there have been many glitches before in nats and it haven't caused them any problems.

The problems comes when they want to fix their fuckup (if it's a fuckup)... They want to fix it but it's making XR a bunch of money.

XR tells them to fuckoff...

Even thought it's nats fucking up with their software, from what we can read XR are definitly the idiots for not wanting to fix it and repay the money owed to affiliates.

John came public with facts.

sure, but getting angry because somebody hung up the phone & going to a big forum & posting shit knowing for fact that it would do what it did, that's just out of line... did he give them the chance to respond, don't look like it,, for christs sake, he couldv'e waited til NR / Xc was in their office.. nope, got pissed because of a phone call & posted in response to the phone call.. this is merely an interpretation.. only 2 people that really know anything about what occured are tmm & xc..

Ego fucks up business when you have a mentality like
"No motherfuckers gonna hangup on me & get away with it.. I'll show them"

He should have waited a few more days.. he should have allowed XC time to get home/office to check things out & to respond.. (I am assuming john may have posted immediately after the phone call)..

SpeakEasy 08-28-2006 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage
There is just too much unknown to really be able to predict how this will turn out. As a user of Nats, I surely hope they come out on top, but I don't really see their stance on policing affiliate programs as being viable long term... hell it would be like herding cats :)


Also to add, who polices the Porn Site stats that John owns??:2 cents:

Brad Mitchell 08-28-2006 06:54 PM

If their program is as small as reported, it should take no time at all for them to run out of money to pay their lawyers.

Brad

RealityWife 08-28-2006 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD
This one time.... at band camp.....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

shake 08-28-2006 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wdsguy
only ones benefiting from this will be the lawyers

yup - you got it

Shoplifter 08-28-2006 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by extreme
Excellent news.

It'll be interesting to see the discovery process here. :)

It will be unbelieveable. I can't believe any program would put all their accounting and tax info into public record. If NR's books are not 100% the court and then the IRS will take them apart.

jscott 08-28-2006 11:26 PM

great post!

heywood 08-28-2006 11:31 PM

holy shit now this is some drama.

I've been researching, and I was leaning towards NATS vs mpa3. Perhaps I should watch the outcome of this...

Snake Doctor 08-29-2006 12:13 AM

Vote for Pedro

Major (Tom) 08-29-2006 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heywood
holy shit now this is some drama.

I've been researching, and I was leaning towards NATS vs mpa3. Perhaps I should watch the outcome of this...


while both are great products, nothing compares to nats.
this drama will be over soon. trust me, the guy stirring the muck has had his bouts of shaddyness in the past.

duke

Dagwolf 08-29-2006 12:42 AM

Situation escalating... Someone needs damage control.

LiveDose 08-29-2006 12:43 AM

Along for the ride.... weeeee

Nookster 08-29-2006 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heywood
holy shit now this is some drama.

I've been researching, and I was leaning towards NATS vs mpa3. Perhaps I should watch the outcome of this...

I stand by NATS' actions. If it gets to it, during the discovery in court I'm sure they will be able to prove their righteous actions about the original post TMM made which they're trying to sue over. :2 cents:

Markit 08-29-2006 04:11 AM

third page spot


:pimp

dtoolbox 08-29-2006 04:18 AM

better late than never ... sig spot :upsidedow

nojob 08-29-2006 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
If their program is as small as reported, it should take no time at all for them to run out of money to pay their lawyers.

Brad


I am assuming that since NR is looking for no less then 75,000 and is sueing for 5,000,000 that the lawyers are working off the retainer of prob 5,000 and will get a % of the outcome.

But, if that is not the case. Then they will need alot of credit cards to keep this going.

Sausage 08-29-2006 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
Are you insane? If what NATS says is true they have committed fraud against every affiliate in the program and all of you should sue to get access to real stats on their end.

Its not really about that... though I agree ... and would be surprised if nats did this just for show. Anyhow thats not the issue. Court isn't about right and wrong, a good lawyer goes a long way.

Tom_PM 08-29-2006 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
read the first post. Nats CLEARLY and publicly said that if anybody was ever caught shaving, they would make it public. They gave them the chacne to rectify the situation in case this was simply a glitch and they didn't.

Now I personally think John is an industry hero for making this public.
If it would have been over a simple grudge, I wouldn't say anything but it seems something is really fishy there.

Yes but the original original original post didnt say "we caught them shaving", it said there was a discrepancy and that at which time the discrepancy was sorted out, the license would be reinstated.

I guess some people think from the original post that "they were caught shaving"... and some others just figured "they'll sort it out". The way it's interepreted is key I think.

Anyway, I was just curious if it was part of the contract, oral or written.
I hope both parties simply settle things and the cosmos reverts to harmony :winkwink:

Zakarian 08-29-2006 10:09 AM

So far, no posting on any Federal Court site of any Complaint being filed by TMM despite John's earlier post. If anyone finds proof of the filing and a copy of TMM's complaint, I'd love to see it.

Alphonso 08-29-2006 10:24 AM

the true winners are the lawyers

Zakarian 08-29-2006 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphonso
the true winners are the lawyers


Exaclty, because all the persons posting on this board are abject paupers that dabble in the adult industry for fun, not for money.

Quick Buck 08-29-2006 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zakarian
Exaclty, because all the persons posting on this board are abject paupers that dabble in the adult industry for fun, not for money.

it took me a couple reads to realize that you were being sarcastic.

p1mpdogg 08-29-2006 10:51 AM

give me abreak john. you were playing god and you got caught.

pay them what you owe and move on.

why you are wasting your money trying to jutify your actions is silly.

be a man you turd.

Zakarian 08-29-2006 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck
it took me a couple reads to realize that you were being sarcastic.

NP QB, you have the correct read.

JMM 08-29-2006 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakarian
NP QB, you have the correct read.

Albert..

Don't take this the wrong way, I have heard good things about you....

But..

With all of these posts that you are making, and assuming that the negative message board publicity is a big part of your clients claims, aren't you in essence inserting yourself into the case?

Assuming that the alleged negative publicity on the message boards is key to the alleged damage being caused your client, aren't you personally perpetuating that alleged negative publicity every time you bump the threads?

jayeff 08-29-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
he couldv'e waited til NR / Xc was in their office

Could have, but why should he? You seem desperate to damage NATS with your constant posting on this topic, but the message is always the same: the fault is NATS for not being more tolerant, never that of the guy from Xclusive for acting so unprofessionally and having done so, then failing to regret what he did and act quickly to put things right. Is that one-sided or what?

Zakarian 08-29-2006 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMM
Albert..

Don't take this the wrong way, I have heard good things about you....

But..

With all of these posts that you are making, and assuming that the negative message board publicity is a big part of your clients claims, aren't you in essence inserting yourself into the case?

Assuming that the alleged negative publicity on the message boards is key to the alleged damage being caused your client, aren't you personally perpetuating that alleged negative publicity every time you bump the threads?

Good question. If you take my posts as a whole or individually, I am not commenting on the case. If you read the complaint, it asserts that the damage is already irreparably done. Still, interesting food for thought.

Theo 08-29-2006 01:18 PM

Albert, you are doing your job and im sure you know how to do it very well, but I honestly find it kind of odd for you guys to be around on these threads. I don't think it serves any real purpose because whatever is done will be resolved in a court. We could use your knowledge in threads like 2257 and so on. Just my 2 cents.

Jace 09-04-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
Albert, you are doing your job and im sure you know how to do it very well, but I honestly find it kind of odd for you guys to be around on these threads. I don't think it serves any real purpose because whatever is done will be resolved in a court. We could use your knowledge in threads like 2257 and so on. Just my 2 cents.

but is jumping in and helping the industry as a whole by giving advice to smaller webmaster making him any money? nope...

so you won't see him doing THAT any time soon

beemk 09-04-2006 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
If their program is as small as reported, it should take no time at all for them to run out of money to pay their lawyers.

Brad

not to mention all the backpay they owe affiliates for "missed" rebills.

Jace 09-16-2006 05:49 AM

just bumping this so no one forgets that there has been no resoultion and affiliates are still not getting paid

martinsc 09-16-2006 05:55 AM

i guess i missed my sig spot...

Drake 09-16-2006 06:09 AM

Are the lawyers still wetting their chops on this one


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