Streamray ?

[ProPorn]

Just want to get an informal survey from GFYers.

I've been happily promoting Streamray for years and it's been a nice supplement to my income, but all of a sudden sales have crashed. I'm sending the same amount of traffic from the same sources and getting the same number of new accounts every day, but as of a few weeks ago I'm only making 1/4 of what I was steadily doing previously. I've had "whales" stop spending before but this looks like more than that.

Has anyone else experienced a dramatic downturn? Have they made any changes or had problems recently that would account for this? Is it just me?

[MrMaxwell]

What do you make on the average fucker who signs up for those per minute cams?

[pocketkangaroo]

My advice is to sign up and see for yourself. The girls are just not as good as they used to be over there. I'm not talking looks, I'm talking their desire to get guys to spend money. You'll find many sleeping, uninterested, etc.

[pr0]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

My advice is to sign up and see for yourself. The girls are just not as good as they used to be over there. I'm not talking looks, I'm talking their desire to get guys to spend money. You'll find many sleeping, uninterested, etc.

sounds like they need to hire some strong pimp-hands

[Elli]

Actually we have more girls than ever now, and competition is heating up. The ones who are sleeping should not be showing up in the first few pages of models due to our current ranking system.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by Elli

Actually we have more girls than ever now, and competition is heating up. The ones who are sleeping should not be showing up in the first few pages of models due to our current ranking system.

I hope so. It's not a knock on you guys as you can't always control the girls, but it is a trend that I've noticed. Other sites like Webcams.com seem real interested and really work the guys well to get them into the paid chat. It seems a lot of the Cams.com girls were more interested in conversations with friends, talking on their phones, or taking naps.

I was over 1:1300 with cam SE traffic which included a 1 signup for every 65 free accounts. The 1:65 ratio is a sign the girls aren't doing their job in my opinion.

[Elli]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I hope so. It's not a knock on you guys as you can't always control the girls, but it is a trend that I've noticed. Other sites like Webcams.com seem real interested and really work the guys well to get them into the paid chat. It seems a lot of the Cams.com girls were more interested in conversations with friends, talking on their phones, or taking naps.

I was over 1:1300 with cam SE traffic which included a 1 signup for every 65 free accounts. The 1:65 ratio is a sign the girls aren't doing their job in my opinion.

Hmm... Well since the girls are now ranked by revenue generated, the more enthusiastic girls will be showing up on the front page listings.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by Elli

Hmm... Well since the girls are now ranked by revenue generated, the more enthusiastic girls will be showing up on the front page listings.

That should help.

I'd suggest a system that takes other factors into account though.

Ranking by revenue may be best for Cams.com, but i can also be a false sense of ranking. For instance, Girl A may be online for 8 hours a day and have 1 client who talks to her in private for 5 hours of that day. Perhaps the other 3 hours she is horrible and just doesn't care about other guys since she has her sugar daddy. On paper, she generates big bucks, but those big bucks are for 1 guy and 1 affiliate. Girl B might be online for 5 hours and only accumulate 2 hours of actual private time. But her private time might be split up between 10 guys in which half were free members who converted to paid and will go on to spend money throughout the site. Technically, girl A is more profitible, but girl B is more valuable.

So a true ranking system should take many factors into play. Not only the total revenue, but revenue per paid chat, # of unique paid members per hour, # of converted free to paid members per hour, and so on. I think girls should be judged more on their value on an hourly basis and not on the total value of their time. If a girl can do $800 in 4 hours with 10 members, she should be ranked higher than a girl who does $1000 in 8 hours with 2 members. This would not only put your highest quality girls on top, but also keep the top fresh with new girls and not just the ones who are online all day.

I know it can get a little complex and I'm going way overboard with the analysis. But as a statistics major, I get off on this stuff.

[MrMaxwell]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

That should help.

I'd suggest a system that takes other factors into account though.

Ranking by revenue may be best for Cams.com, but i can also be a false sense of ranking. For instance, Girl A may be online for 8 hours a day and have 1 client who talks to her in private for 5 hours of that day. Perhaps the other 3 hours she is horrible and just doesn't care about other guys since she has her sugar daddy. On paper, she generates big bucks, but those big bucks are for 1 guy and 1 affiliate. Girl B might be online for 5 hours and only accumulate 2 hours of actual private time. But her private time might be split up between 10 guys in which half were free members who converted to paid and will go on to spend money throughout the site. Technically, girl A is more profitible, but girl B is more valuable.

So a true ranking system should take many factors into play. Not only the total revenue, but revenue per paid chat, # of unique paid members per hour, # of converted free to paid members per hour, and so on. I think girls should be judged more on their value on an hourly basis and not on the total value of their time. If a girl can do $800 in 4 hours with 10 members, she should be ranked higher than a girl who does $1000 in 8 hours with 2 members. This would not only put your highest quality girls on top, but also keep the top fresh with new girls and not just the ones who are online all day.

I know it can get a little complex and I'm going way overboard with the analysis. But as a statistics major, I get off on this stuff.

That's very reasonable,
I do think it is more to motivate the flesh to produce,
And it really works alot better when they're all just trying to become number one..
That is not to say that they could not still be ranked and graded by your standards there but you still have to have some kind of number on it so the flesh can say HEY I AM NUMBER ONE HEE HEEE HEEEE... if you gave her a bonus for productivity based on this and based on that, that would work too.
See

I would do it real simple like.. I'd pay them on a sliding scale based on productivity and also place them based on productivity.

[MrMaxwell]

As an aside,
You will frustrate some of the not so good models and chase them off.
That really is alright though.