jimmyf

Yip... but they wouldn't let me even stand gaurd duty at the Ammo Dump.... all gaurds had Live Ammo... I use to wonder why?

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drumsicle

The Arab world doesn't have the might and there is no way they would keep peace if they did. They would simply wipe Israel out. The US is NATO. Without the US, NATO is nothing. The UN is a complete joke, has no might, and is completely biased against Israel as it is. Without the US, your idea is a wash. And Americans are not about to walk into that shit.

BabeHunter

GOD BLESS AMERICA!
i love that country!

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Pathfinder

You are wrong on all points other than it will not be done without US involvement.

The job would not be that great of an effort. Arafat has already asked for an outside force, Sharon said he would go along with it. Israel would not attack a Peace keeping force, all the Peace Keeping force has to do is deal with the terroists, so outside of having to have a large force to establish a no man's land the length of the borders, militarily speaking, no big deal.

Expensive, yes, some loss of life, yes, long term, yes.

BabeHunter

I would really like to know when sahron said that it's ok...
anyways there is a UN force at border with Lebanon and lebanese terrorists still shoot some missles...so it's not making any diffrence...

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GoodChris

The real solution is that we find an alternative energy source, be it hydrogen conversion or something along those lines.

The middle east is in a power struggle for land blah blah blah, and we are fueling both sides by using their product to say it in laymans terms. Stop fueling their armies and then they'll have BIGGER issues to deal with and may actually fuck off with the fighting.!

oh and, we'd also be saving our grandchildrens lives too by changing energy sources...we're doing ourselves in by burning the amounts of oil that we burn.

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Pathfinder

Sharon agreed to go along with it (not in favor of it) with in the last couple of months. As I explained pretty much in detail in an older thread this would not be a Peace Keeping force as is the norm. Usually Peace Keepers only move in when the shooting has stopped. This would be a Peace Keeping force with the full capability of fighting, and the authority to launch offensive attacks, if need be.

I am not going to argue my points any further.

By the way incase you haven't learned it, there has been yet another bombing. I am watching it on CNN now.

BabeHunter

those asshole need to DIE

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foe

Israel doenst shell towns and doesnt target civilians so its

old bastard trying to protect his country vs old bastard who wants to kill as many jews as possible

foe

Completely right, thats why the US arms Israel because if worst comes to worst the US already has an army on location that can attack and conquer most of the middle east.

Milton

What i have seen of these treath only person that have something in the brain so far is Lambret..and offcorse he is a Canadian also... Nice to see that someone in these evil world have there heads up.
Go [Labret]

What you americans doesn relize (12clicks) that America and england TOOK (occupied) the palistinan country after the second world war .. to make the state ISRAEL ..what shuld you do if Someone took texas and claimed that Romers shuld have there own country there?? American go back to school...special go fuck your self to 12clicks that says!"kill the palestines and the problem goes away. No arab country will come to their defence because they won't risk another ass whooping."

Again heads up to Labret and Canada.

Milton swedish PimP

BabeHunter

there wasn't a country called palestine...before WW1 it was turkish...after WW2 it became british...read some book before you bring your stupid ass to this dissction

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ControlThy

Religion, what good comes from it?

foe

and then it because Jordans

also there where no palestinians before 1948 they are all jordanians its a madeup naitonality.

Rose

Labret is not Canadian, Thanks GOD

RW316

HALLELUJAH!!!

FINALLY SOME ACTION IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THESE BAD ASSES

justicephil

There where three votes in the security council on placing a eace keeping force in the country of palestine to secure peace....each country voted to support sending in a peace keeping force, but in each case the United States used it veto to block the peace force.
The answer as to why it blocked the peace force can be found right here at home....there are 6 million jews in this country who control 92% of the media here.
The average American can bust his balls off working and paying taxes and dieing in some war for this country....but at the end of the day our vote is worthless , our constitution is worthless, and our media which is supposed to be one of the cornerstones of our democracy is controlled by Israel.
The fact is there can be peace in palestine and Israel in 24 hours if Bush forced the issue.
But sad to say this country and its people is 100% controlled by Israel and Bush and every other President is just a dog on a lead that does as their told.
Sharon has already stated very clearly in the past that Israel controlls the States.
The real problem is how to gain control of this great country of ours and restore our freedoms, vote and constitution!
For all the sacrifices this country has made....and here we are being run by a power on the other side of the planet.

GoodChris

Bush IS a puppet, but he is a puppet to his own father whose ties and alliances were made many years back. The situation in the middle east is what is referred to as 'controlled conflict' and it has been used for centuries by world leaders of a secret society to increase their own power and control.

George Bush Sr. is a paid consultant for Carlisle Group, which is a company partnered with the Saudi Royals. There is a Pipeline running from Russia right through afghanistan that is going to deliver oil to the US. The Bush family is an OIL family. See the point?

This whole BS situation has been brought on by the powers that bein the US government and as long as we let these fuckers stay in power, the war will always be.

To all of you that say Kill Kill Kill.... wow... I guess you don't realize that there are more muslims in the world than any other, and how would you feel being on the other side of the fence?

BabeHunter

that must have been the biggest piece of shit i ever read...from where did you borught this info? your ass?
anyways...good luck man

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ADL Colin

"What you americans doesn relize (12clicks) that America and england TOOK (occupied) the palistinan country after the second world war" - Milton

Milton,

Hey, don't insult us Americans. We're wise enough to realize you need to go re-read your history book!

Britain "took" Palestine in 1916. World War I. Not World War II.

But of course that just leads to Britain took it from the Ottomans that took it from the Crusaders that took it from the caliphs that took it from the Romans that took it from the Greeks (Alexander) that took it from the Persians that took it from the Babylonians that took it from the Assyrians that took it from the Jews that took it from the Canaanites.

(abbreviated version)

ADL Colin

"here wasn't a country called palestine...before WW1 it was turkish...after WW2 it became british...read some book before you bring your stupid ass to this dissction"

Damn, BabeHunter beat me to it.

BabeHunter

a little fix...it's WW1 in both cases...(couldn't edit my other post)

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[Labret]

I have been called some terrible things in my life, but nothing ever so vile as being called a Canadian.

Words can hurt.

ElvisManson

*yawn*

GoodChris

Hey Labret ...

Go Fuck Yourself.

FATPad

Another attack. http://www.msnbc.com/news/677951.asp

Some interesting comments in that one.

"The White House said it recognized Israel?s right to defend itself after that attack."

Well yay. Aren't we nice? Some of us in America recognized that right of Israel's a while ago.

"In one of his strongest condemnations ever, Pope John Paul II decried Tuesday?s attack, saying 'those who plot and plan such barbarous attacks will have to answer before God.'"

While very scary sounding *rolls eyes*, I doubt that the people who are willing to blow themselves and their children up with bombs care what some silly old man thousands of miles away says.

"The ad urged all Palestinians who support such a call to sign on to it. Palestinian pollsters, however, have found that a majority of Palestinians support suicide bombings."

Anyone surprised? Most Palestinians are animals who support blowing up children.

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GoodChris

You can't blame the palestinian as a whole...

It is their government, media and teachers that make them this way. Raise them in a different environment and they are just like you and me.

Seems that people don't get that we all come from 1. Greedy MotherFuckers with power are the reason that this shit goes on.

12clicks

milton, until you finish highschool, just reread the above quote. Then you won't be so clueless on the subject.

a million half witted muslims don't equal a thousand non-muslims.
If Muslims had the mental ability to rule the world, they wouldn't be muslims.

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drumsicle

You've lost all credibility on this matter, as that is an outright lie.

Pathfinder

Unfortunately I did not tape the news account (as I usually do not), but it was reported within the time frame that Israel forces had Arafat confined to his headquarters. During this period there was alot of discussion about intervention; Arafat actually asked for it Sharon was against it but stated that if it happened he would go along with it. That was the gist of the news account.

You can choose to believe what you like or call me what you like, that is your perogative.

Pathfinder

I don't how much time you spend watching news on TV but I probably average 12 hours per day. I do my web work at night and I switch back and forth between FOX, CNN, and C-Span.

FATPad

The plan Bush wants to propose for a temporary country for the Palestinians is already being rejected by both sides. The Israeli's don't sound very happy with it, and Egypt and Jordan have already said they don't like it...they want all the land back.

We need to butt out, instead of thinking we can tell everyone what to do.

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Jon

you know, that back in '67, if the arab "brothers" as they are calling eachother now would have taken in the refugees, there would be no problems now.

if people look back in history after the arabs tried attacking the shit out of israel for the 324324565th time, and again, got their asses kicked, they told the "palestinians" to wait it out in the refugee camps, that no one would let them stay there for so long.

i think the palestinians should be pissed at the arab countries as well for not taking them in earlier, what happened to the arab saying "your sand is my sand" or maybe "theres enough sand for everyone". CMON!

theres nothing patriotic about killing innocent civilians and children on busses. sorry, but anyone who does this needs to be given cancer of the testicles and die a slow painful death. i really cant stand watching this shit anymore, about palestinians "condemming" the attacks, but then giving these suicidal fucks the cash and training to carry out the attacks. i tell you, if they were doing this shit in america, all the arab countries would be nothing more than a giant crater in the desert.

you cannot argue with arab extremists or most arabs in general. you compromise one thing, they do another. you condem attacks, they keep on doing them, worse and worse each time. what are you going to tell them, stop the attacks or we'll kill you? they want to die anyhow, cant really kill a dead man. wont do much good.

on a different note, i think theres one thing israel can do that may halt bombings somewhat. it was done many years ago and stopped these "martyrs" because it fucked with their religion after death. what was done was that after one of these insane fucks would blow himself up, the authorities would take the body of the blown up asshole, and wrap it up in pigskin i believe. to the arabs this makes you not go to heaven to allah. if israel says "alright you dumb shits, blow yourself up, and we'll wrap your remains in pig's skin and bury you in it!" i guarantee you'll see a lot less bombers. unless they arent religious and are doing it "for the cause" -- hope not.

on the final note - for the arabs - i say kill em all.

Pathfinder

Unique weapon. Pig skins.

[Labret]

The Israelis have already done this to a certain extent.

They also deny same day burial as an insult.

Are they still broadcasting porn to Palestinian televisions?

Its like poking a rabid dog thru a fence.

Kahane

From Dennis Miller:
"A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all Americans who still don't get it, I now offer you the story of the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need. Don't thank me. I'm a giver. Here we go:

The Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no "Palestinians" then, and the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then. As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation." So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they are: "Other Arabs Accomplish Anything In Life And Would
Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death." I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: "Adjacent Jew-Haters."

Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing. No, they don't. They could've had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living. That's no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course-that's where the real fun is-but mostly they want Israel. Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel-or "The Zionist Entity" as their textbooks call it-for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth, and if you've ever been around
God's Earth, you know that's really saying something. It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mideast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.

Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals. Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding.

My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not. Or marshalling every fiber and force at
their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab state into the sea? Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents?

Impossible.

Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting. No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.

Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with vital operations coming up against Iraq and others, it's in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that can't be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of supermodels who've just had their drugs taken away. However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing moral weight. We've already lost some. After September 11 our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them. Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day) start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint. If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan. (Hey, wait a minute, that's actually not such a bad id . . . uh, that is, what a horrible thought, yeah, horrible.)"

- Kahane -

[Labret]

Dennis Miller did not write it, Larry Miller wrote it.

Larry is a Jew... imagine that.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...1/161yaihr.asp

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ChrisH

The reason most Arab countries refuse to accept the proposal is that they DON'T want a democratic state!

They are very affraid that it would be successful and therefore be a threat to there dictatorships throughout the region!

Moreover, most Palistinians want peace, it is a small percentage that will never accept peace. And this small percentage needs to be hunted down and exterminated like the pigs that they are!

If you attack me, and I take your ground/land why the fuck should I have to give it back?? You wouldn't have lost it if you wouldn't have attacked me in the first place....

bhutocracy

this is a myth. and solutions are never that simple.

bhutocracy

just a thought.. if you are trying to sway people towards your argument, try not to use the moniker of a terrorist to do it.. it doesn't help.. just because he was jewish doesn't make him any less culpable.. and it ruins your propaganda.. be sneaky for heaven's sake..

foe

1. Sharon is against a peace keaping force
2. If the Israili military cant control terrorists you really think a peace keeping force can, please. Did you see Jenin, The Israeli army is one of the best and most profesional in the world.

foe

Thats absolute bulishit the Jews dont control the media.

foe

And notice palestinians where never mentioned lol

foe

Well maybe you where misinformed, but as of NOW Sharon and most of Israel is completely against peace forces one simple reason

They will block Israili forces from trying to contain terrorist and they themselves will in no way in hell be able too.

Dont you people remember when a couple of years ago Turkish UN peace keapers in Lebanon gave UN marked cars to Hesbolah to capture 2 Israeli soldiers which are still held captive or are dead, nobody knows.

foe

True story, British used it and it worked.

foe

thats trust but I think Dennis miller is also a Jew btw

bhutocracy

it's as silly as Muslims' proclaiming that a good way to throw the USA into disarray would be to "bomb" America with juicy steaks on Fridays, because "Americans are Christians," and "everyone knows Christians who eat meat on Fridays go to Hell."

Kahane

...and your a goy...imagine that. Funny how those things work.


- Kahane -

foe

Some terrorism experts believe that we should fight Islamic fundamentalists by adopting psychological warfare tactics, such as did the British when they occupied the Protectorate of Palestine. According to Muslim belief, a "shahid" (suicide bomber) will be rewarded in heaven. However, any contact with a pig carcass or pork bars a Muslim's entry to heaven. When Palestinian Arab terrorists were captured by the British, they were executed in a public hanging with pieces of pork in their mouths, followed by head-down burials in post-holes. A similar tactic was used by the British in the1930's in India, when they buried the body of a Muslim terrorist in pig skin. The desecration was widely publicized, and the rash of suicide bombings ceased immediately. For Muslim terrorists, the threat of execution or life imprisonment is simply not a deterrent.

http://www.angelfire.com/pr/flo/pj/chapter3.html

This is just the first website I found ... Let me know if you need more sources.