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Old 06-21-2002, 02:03 PM   #201
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taking land is what's causing the issue. however, if you take ALL the land, you can effectively snuff out the palestinians, which are something like a virus, if you don't kill the whole thing off, it will mutate into something else or find ways around the defenses.

same with our war on terrorism. the world is too big to fight small targets. the only way is to kill everyone with ties to it until there is no more!
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Old 06-21-2002, 02:12 PM   #202
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if you take ALL the land, you can effectively snuff out the palestinians, which are something like a virus, if you don't kill the whole thing off, it will mutate into something else or find ways around the defenses.
I disagree.

At least when they are isolated to small areas, you can somewhat control them.

I would rather know where the people who want to kill me live, rather than scattering them into the countryside.
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Old 06-21-2002, 02:15 PM   #203
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once they're scattered they setup cells in their respective areas. then you have 20 different groups hating you instead of 0.

part of killing the virus is killing off the renegade strands as well, and that's what i'm saying. you have to kill it completely off. big groups, small groups, as long as it's opposing you and will plan on striking back at you on a later date, you're not safe until they're completely wiped out and anyone who thinks in that fashion as well. you have to completely remove the generation so it does not get passed on..
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Old 06-21-2002, 02:22 PM   #204
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uhm, I bet the United States wishes al queda were all living in Afghanistan rather than spread out around the world.

Im not buying into the whole virus anology.
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Old 06-21-2002, 03:16 PM   #205
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from a human perspective i think this conflict is more about a last stand between imperialism/religion and capitalism/humanism. i think the latter will win out but as in all last stands, the battle will be horrific.

in researching all this mess i found this phrase that's currently haunting me:

"land without people for a people without land"
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Old 06-21-2002, 06:02 PM   #206
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uhm, I bet the United States wishes al queda were all living in Afghanistan rather than spread out around the world.

Im not buying into the whole virus anology.
the virus analogy isn't supposed to make it sound like i encourage them to run away. they're smart enough to establish cells in multiple remote locations as to never be completely removed.

my virus analogy is to say that as long as one single person is around who can attack us and/or start up his own crew, the virus is still living. if all the people (in groups or on their own) were snuffed out, the virus would be removed.

i don't think you understood my point of using that virus analogy. oh well. let's just kill them all.
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Old 06-21-2002, 06:09 PM   #207
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the virus analogy isn't supposed to make it sound like i encourage them to run away. they're smart enough to establish cells in multiple remote locations as to never be completely removed.

my virus analogy is to say that as long as one single person is around who can attack us and/or start up his own crew, the virus is still living. if all the people (in groups or on their own) were snuffed out, the virus would be removed.

i don't think you understood my point of using that virus analogy. oh well. let's just kill them all.
killing them all sounds like a good idea, but you need ot remember this is Irael and well you remember Jenin and Palestinians and the UN crying massacare ... Basically it wont fly
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Old 06-21-2002, 06:15 PM   #208
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I spent half of a life time in the military. I have been involved in literally hundreds of military operations. I have been in charge of military operations, coventional and unconventional. I am results oriented.

I have zero interest in the polictics of a situation, or what is fair or unfair.

The tactics being used by Israel will not get the desired results and the tactics being used by the Palestinians will not get the desired results.

So the wheel will continue to turn without end.

As for you BabeHunter if a Tank Commander killed my children I would have little concern about it being an accident or not.


Spoken like a true soldier


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Old 06-21-2002, 06:19 PM   #209
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Success you may measure success as total cessation of terrorist attacks, I think that if they reconquer the entire West Bank and it prevents 1 terrorist attack and saves 1 innocent life than its all worth it.
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Old 06-21-2002, 06:20 PM   #210
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...i think this conflict is more about a last stand between imperialism/religion and capitalism/humanism.

good point.


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Old 06-21-2002, 11:24 PM   #211
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The whole terror aspect is so instilled into these people from birth that it is going to be very hard to stop. But it must be stopped.

These elders send their young men and now women out to kill themselves while they just recruit more and more children that they can strap a bomb to and send off to die. Obliously they don't care at all about their children. Oh, when there is an accident like yesterday and a few innocent people are killed by mistake they jump up and down and complain. However, if they had straped a bomb to them it would have been fine..

They only way to try to stop this madness is to go hunt them down and kill them!

Btw.... Now Arafat wants the deal that was offered at Camp David. What a fucking joke. If he would have taken it then all these people wouldn't have died! They need to kill that motherfucker first!!
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Old 06-22-2002, 08:23 AM   #212
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The reason its instilled in teh now more than ever is because Arafat promotes it in state run school.
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Old 06-22-2002, 10:40 AM   #213
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Gonna get uglier. Bunch of Israelis on the way home from the funeral for the lady and three children shot yesterday evidently rioted or something and burned down a house.
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Old 06-22-2002, 11:51 AM   #214
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foe,
Did you see the videos last week of the state sponsored tv in Saudi Arabia? These dirtbags teach their children from birth to be KILLERS, they like to call it Maryters.

As I said before, they don't give a fuck about there families!
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Old 06-22-2002, 12:00 PM   #215
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