Im sure there are, they have starbucks,mcdonalds, burger kings

They need to go through the West Bank, and exterminate all wanted terrorists!

When Israel is on the offensive there are far less suicide bombers killing women and children!

As far as the US staying out of it

We are repeatedly asked to come into it, then when we do or don't we get slamed for whatever position we take. But count on one thing we will never allow the Jews to be pushed into the sea!

Never say never its been less than 60 years and look how quickly the world changes almost every decade. During the Yom Kipur war of 1973 Israel came very close to being anhialated.... Dont think it cant happen again.

Do the americans really give a shit or is it once again just about making sure they keep the oil market under control by playing abll with the right people?

and the Jews DO run the media, kinda...

foe,
Everytime they've been attacked they have won land.

Do you think this is the same Israeli Military?

Lets no forget they have nuclear weapons.

Never Happen!!

Chris,
Us helping the Jews in the 70's got us an oil embargo. So helping Israel is not helping us with cheap oil..

Pump Russia.... Pump... We won't need OPEC in a few years anyway!

Nobody said militarily, as you know arabs want to make a couple million (forgot exact number) arabs settle in Israel, if that happens well there will be more arabs than jews living in Israel which means Israel can no longer be a democracy and it will spiral from there.

I just watched sum of all fears.

Bad movie. Very bad movie.

I read the first chapter of the book than said fuck it, liked the first chapter though. About the movie they fucked it up in the book I heard its arab terrorists which woudl make more sence to make the two main nuclear powers fight and ME for the most part will be untouched blah blah blah. I dunno overall pretty unrealistic.

I swear to god, I think that EVERYthing on this fucking planet revolves around oil....

Alternative source of energy i.e. hydrogen conversion would change everything.. The US feeds the middle east its money and in turn they use that money to fight land wars...quit feedeing em, thats the best method of stopping this shit, let em worry about food , shelter and clothing instead of where to bomb next.

But theres one thing you forgot to mention we NEED the oil

More fighting. Palestinian gunman kills 5 Israelis...50 Israeli tanks respond by taking over another town.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/677951.asp

no, we NEED to allow the ALREADY invented alternative energy soucres to be implemented.

The Electric car has been developed for over 20 years and EVERYtime someone tries to bring it to market, they get killed... now the hybrid has been allowed.

we THINK we need oil, but really it is a conspiracy by certain powers to keep their bank accounts full....I'm not gonna (Bush Family) name anyone, but (Bush Family, Saudi Royals, Carlisle Group) its not that we need it, we are led to believe we do.

We are depleting the Earth of its resources and its gonna kill us all in the end. This planet is gonna turn around a kill ALL of us because of our abuse. Just like the human body needs water, the planet needs its oil.. Its ecology 101.

What do we need oil for, cars? no we don't.
Heating? No we don't.

Solar power? yes.... we can get enough energy from the suns resources alone to NEVER need oil.

Hydrogen conversion was invented 20 years ago. Its in use now. It converts the friggin water into energy. Yet if you try to get it to market, TOO many world leaders disallow it as it would fuck up the oil trade.

Lets be realistic about things here.

A desperate situation requires desperate actions. I htink Ramallah is next

"At least five Israelis, three of them children, were killed, a medical worker said."

More targetting of children. Pathetic.

I remember watching a show which said 90 years ago GM ford or some other company had an electric that went for 110 miles on a single charge and still works today, Now with computers etc .... Electric cars have a range of 120 miles. basically the idea was dropped and never develped. I think Hybrids are the future as well, but that technology will take time.

Thats what happens when you live on stolen land.

They are assholes for making their children live there.

So then the point is made...we don't need oil..

and most of the conflicts arise because of land struggle which really goes back to "show me the oil"..

I do agree that the palestine/Iraeli thing is more of a different kind of war, but US involvement is usually based around oil.

ok, gotta run...

Time to watch Bill Maher.

Why dont the Canadians donate a parcel of land and let all the Israelis live there?

Problem solved.

I will accept my nobel peace prize now.

From who was it stolen? Jordanians are the ones that owned it before and Israel even offered to give the land back to the Jordanians who refused to take it.

Mr. Anti-Canada to the rescue..

Hey, we already gave you Celine Dion..now leave us alone.:Graucho


Thank god shes gone.

I'd like to know who the land was stolen from as well.

Its all stolen land.

posted by labret:
That's a ridiculous statement, no land is really owned, and it is all stolen, including the land your house is built on, what's the difference?

The US "stole" land from the indians, if they start killing our children shoudl we just stand by becuase we "stole" land from them

Lets put it his way, if A.I.M. started bombing houses in and around the United States and Canada, I would understand why they did it.

Watch out Canada, Labret is coming with bomb around his neck :)

Labret's stolen land mantra. Give your land back to the Indians labret.

Its not stolen.... we came, we saw, we conquered. End of story! And we're gonna kick the ass of every fucker that tries to take it away! :feels-hot

No way, I am more hands on.

Watch out Canada, I am coming and I have a large bag of screwdrivers.

I must have missed where you explained how the land was stolen and justified killing children.

I'm off to bed. I'll check again in the morning for the stolen land explanation.

posted by labret:
And where is the end to it all, all land has been won or lost in battle over time, the difference is most people get over it and move on.

There is really no way of agreeing whose land it is. First of all the Jews didn't steal it as you know, it was given to them by the British government. But that's not the point. The point is that the Palestinian people have commited a great error in supporting a leader who does not really want peace, because he than would be out of a job. There were numerous opportunities which were given to the Palestinian "government", but they refused them. Rome wasn't built in one day, so why do they expect to get everything they want all at once. Instead of using terrorist tacktics, they are better off using the political arena to help themselves.
Ps. I have 2 couzines serving in the Israely army, I don't want them to die, and they have personally told me that they really don't want to kill any Palestinians unless they have to. So in conclusion, this argument will never be solved, because the 2 governments are only looking out for their own sake and not the peoples.

How come we dont see Germans blowing themselves in Poland?
After all Germany lost big piece of land to Poland after WW2.
So it's the stolen land

I wish I was an Indian. Free college, money from the government, casino money, fry bread.

How coudl you say the Israeli government is not looking out for the people, unlike Arafats PA the Israeli government is democratic, and if sharon doesnt serve the people someone else will be elected. You said that your cousins dont want to kill any palestinians, this is how the Israeli army works, do you really think that if they wanted to murder inocent Palestininas they couldnt, come on.

I dont justify it.

The Israelis justify it.

Attention class. That's what you call turnspeak. You'll see it used every time someone is trying to justify the killing of innocent civilians. If you want to try it yourself, wait till the next time the Palestinians kill a bunch of children and then promptly call the Israelis child-killers.

If a man runs up and randomly punches people in the face for no reason, I would condemn him.

If he ran up and down the street punching people in the face because he had a valid reason, I would not condemn him.

You reap what you sow.