The first convention I ever went to almost two years ago, I found myself facing this dilema. I was talking to a webmaster that was there with his model and he started to talk about how much money she made for a "whore". Mind you I live with Marc so you know I am "VERY OPEN MINDED". But this really pissed me off. I walked away from the webmaster and from that moment, I had a bad image of him and his business. Now, two years and many conventions later, I still think it was fucked up forhim to talk like that about his models.

Treating other human beings like shit is never going to change the context/intent of your words. :2 cents:

BTW, thanks for posting theis thread Hal :thumbsup

Ouch!
 

I agree with your comment---same for use of the word "cu*t".

IMO, we need to innately feel and treat everyone nicely (including Adult Industry performers who contribute to us making a living).

The girls are human beings, not what those terms connote when one thinks of their local street-walkers!

Dave

At the start of a photosession we call them princes or so at the end it goodby

Every one of them might be, technically, a "whore"...

But I'm sure there are a lot of people who are, technically, "bastards"...

technically "fat"

technically "motherfuckers"

We don't refer to these people, on a regular basis (unless in a jesting kinda way), by these derrogatory terms because they're all terms that have negative connotations.

As has been said before... its' about respect.

Then they need to act like human beings instead of human cum dumpsters. :2 cents:

it seems most people at least agree that its ok to refer to them as such on sites to the general public but that doesn't that just re-enforce the idea that these women are whores to those viewing the sites? its ok to let them believe it as long as they are buying subscriptions?

You aren't kidding about that! It's so bad over on that site, I've never seen anything like it, not even among camgirls. Lying, stealing, cheating, backstabbing.

not a good idea to call talent whore unless you are a friend and using at a term of endearment - otherwise it's disrespectful

I'm not trying to get on my "High Whorse" ,but unless the cameras rolling and she has agreed to allow you to call her a whore I wouldn't. Then again theres some really cool girls that don't care and don't take offense to it.

It is always a term of endearment when I say it.

Is someone who has sex for money by definition a whore? YES

Does it make a difference that its for a movie or photo? NO

Is it okay to call ANYONE a whore who is respectful to you?

NO, not if they view it as desrespectful

Except that porn is the selling of fantasy.
And MANY fantasies revolve around roll/power play and degradation.

You can call a lover a "whore" in the bedroom and still respect her to the core.
That is much different than thinking she *is* a whore.

That being said, I think it would be much more responsible, as an industry, to address the idea of fantasy and rollplay in porn (to surefers). Especially with "extreme" scenes.

IMO, The term "whore" is only acceptable when it is in the script of a scene and the model is aware of it and complies or on the tour of a website. To simply refer to an adult performer as a "whore" is rude.

ditto....

if you say it with love

talent? a girl thats getting fucked for cash, only dif with a whore is she's being recorded. So yes she's a whore. Nude models aint whores since they dont ride the cock.

good points. I consdier myself a photographer that will shoot video for money . . so I tend to think in terms of 'model' even when I get pissed at the models I never use sexualy orientated languge . . I stick with ass hole, dumb ass, dip shit, etc, those type terms . . I like women

I like to think that it is possible in the commercialization of sexuality that it is possible to consider context when it comes to fantasy - especially those fantasies that dwell in the darker areas. I know that some webmasters/pornographers/websites do that well and others do not.

and I got the domain 'wanton' . . how fucking cool is that? :thumbsup

It's all about marketing. I don't think they should be called that at industry functions, but if your site is a fantasy about whores, well...

actually they are called 'providers' and the tricks are called 'hobbiest' and pimps are now called 'webmasters' :1orglaugh