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p1mpdogg · 08-22-2006, 01:40 PM

so you get together 20 or so of your spammer/im buddies and you have 1 guy signup to a program, while you have your friends click your link a few hundred times each then signup and cancel within the trial period. just make the program isnt shady and has weird cacnel terms. if they use paycom, then its all good, paycom is ontop of their game when it comes to paysite/program compliacne issues.

so you get 20 sales, then you do it again to another program, while another guy from the last program does what you just did. so on and so forth. pretty soon, you got 20 guys doing 20 sales a day each until you run out of programs...... HOWEVER... by the time you run out of programs, you may not have been termed yet at your first porogram you ripped off, so you do it again, and this time the payout will be 50/50.. 50% chance you get paid, and 50% you dont. now you are gambling, but well worth the gamble, because worse case, is they term you. you wont get in trouble.

take care and have a beautiful day.

RogerV · 08-22-2006, 01:44 PM

If all 20 sales cancel during trial I doubt they would get paid.. unless the program doesnt have fraud tools in place to catch them. plus the conversions would throw up red flags..

p1mpdogg · 08-22-2006, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV

If all 20 sales cancel during trial I doubt they would get paid.. unless the program doesnt have fraud tools in place to catch them. plus the conversions would throw up red flags..

fine then how about this one.

pornopushers is a good test everyone!!!!

blingleton (3:45:55 PM): your method has flaws.. this method does not. you buy 100 dollars of traffic from 5 diffrent places. you buy 30 per paid visas from the gas station. 20 dollars for the cards, then another 33 dollars for sign ups.
blingleton (3:46:04 PM): you sign up to 10 aff programs. you start sending the traffic.

you get in your car and drive untill you find 1 wifi spot. from that spot you use 1 card and buy 10 trial memberships, 1 per sponsor on that card.
blingleton (3:46:16 PM): You go to your next wifi spot. you repeat with the 2nd card.

continue to do this untill you have 10 sales with 10 sponsors, all at around 1:500/ 1:1000 ratios.
blingleton (3:46:23 PM): you make all the min payouts, and no flags are set off. you get in and out before they notice they all canceled, or couldnt rebill.
blingleton (3:46:30 PM): you have 100 sales paying 25/30 per trial making you 3k from your 1k investment (minus shave, but most sponsors dont start to shave after 10 sales as not to lose the people who test out the programs 1st.. but thats MOST some start in after the 1st 3 sales)

blingleton (3:46:34 PM): enjoy.

detoxed · 08-22-2006, 02:01 PM

Well post results and let us know who shaves!

marketsmart · 08-22-2006, 02:07 PM

why use wi-fi when you can do from home via http proxies... in theory this would work and actually can be made even less risky of getting caught.

i will bet money that people are already doing this.

pocketkangaroo · 08-22-2006, 02:12 PM

The smart cheaters actually let a few of the trials move on. Then it just looks like a statistical anamolly where 17 trials cancelled and 3 moved on.

DWB · 08-22-2006, 02:15 PM

God dammit!!! This is how I make my living. Now you went and fucked it all up.

Asshole.

fris · 08-22-2006, 02:30 PM

i do that already

Marshal · 08-22-2006, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris

i do that already

i don't...

Tempest · 08-22-2006, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

why use wi-fi when you can do from home via http proxies... in theory this would work and actually can be made even less risky of getting caught.

i will bet money that people are already doing this.

Why do you think so many people love epassorte payouts and especially programs that pay out immediately or every week... the cheaters rack up some sales, get the money in epassporte and withdraw it asap.. accounts get closed down and they open up new ones..

WiredGuy · 08-22-2006, 04:10 PM

But what happens when none of the trials rebill? I'm sure if a new webmaster sent you 20 joins and none rebill / recur, that you'd at least pause their payouts to figure out whats going on with their traffic? Or should I try this with Epic Cash and see if I get paid

WG

vvq · 08-22-2006, 04:32 PM

This is a bigger problem than most people think. You've gotta keep a very sharp eye on your affiliates traffic/joins to catch the good gangs running this scam.

V_RocKs · 08-22-2006, 04:33 PM

20 x 35 = Not worth me and 20 buddies time...

lucky1 · 08-22-2006, 04:40 PM

A couple grand to get banned from every program.... No thanks.

I'll stick to honest work that can bring in way more than a couple grand over time.

After reading the post title I would have thought that this thread was started by anal hobbit.

BOSS1 · 08-22-2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

so you get together 20 or so of your spammer/im buddies and you have 1 guy signup to a program, while you have your friends click your link a few hundred times each then signup and cancel within the trial period. just make the program isnt shady and has weird cacnel terms. if they use paycom, then its all good, paycom is ontop of their game when it comes to paysite/program compliacne issues.

so you get 20 sales, then you do it again to another program, while another guy from the last program does what you just did. so on and so forth. pretty soon, you got 20 guys doing 20 sales a day each until you run out of programs...... HOWEVER... by the time you run out of programs, you may not have been termed yet at your first porogram you ripped off, so you do it again, and this time the payout will be 50/50.. 50% chance you get paid, and 50% you dont. now you are gambling, but well worth the gamble, because worse case, is they term you. you wont get in trouble.

take care and have a beautiful day.

are u doing it cause u got some good fraud prevention and want other progs to lose business?

Nicky · 08-22-2006, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucky1

A couple grand to get banned from every program.... No thanks.

I'll stick to honest work that can bring in way more than a couple grand over time.

After reading the post title I would have thought that this thread was started by anal hobbit.

hahaha true this could have been a anal hobbit tip

soulswagon · 08-22-2006, 05:17 PM

That's more work than just pushing the sites.

scottybuzz · 08-22-2006, 05:25 PM

ahahhahaa p1mp d0gg

kmanrox · 08-22-2006, 06:31 PM

could be an affiliate did it to him, and he's pissed CCBill didn't do shit to make ammends?

RogerV · 08-22-2006, 08:34 PM

true you might get by once with a few sales but thats about it with us. the only thing is there is plenty of programs to scam that dont have fraud tools and experience in place. So I dont doubt it happens. I see the attempts with us all the time. the best is when they have a 1/1 ratio

08-22-2006, 01:40 PM	#1
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	i have a great way for affiliates to cheat. step inside so you get together 20 or so of your spammer/im buddies and you have 1 guy signup to a program, while you have your friends click your link a few hundred times each then signup and cancel within the trial period. just make the program isnt shady and has weird cacnel terms. if they use paycom, then its all good, paycom is ontop of their game when it comes to paysite/program compliacne issues. so you get 20 sales, then you do it again to another program, while another guy from the last program does what you just did. so on and so forth. pretty soon, you got 20 guys doing 20 sales a day each until you run out of programs...... HOWEVER... by the time you run out of programs, you may not have been termed yet at your first porogram you ripped off, so you do it again, and this time the payout will be 50/50.. 50% chance you get paid, and 50% you dont. now you are gambling, but well worth the gamble, because worse case, is they term you. you wont get in trouble. take care and have a beautiful day. __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

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08-22-2006, 04:10 PM	#11
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	But what happens when none of the trials rebill? I'm sure if a new webmaster sent you 20 joins and none rebill / recur, that you'd at least pause their payouts to figure out whats going on with their traffic? Or should I try this with Epic Cash and see if I get paid WG __________________ I play with Google.

08-22-2006, 04:32 PM	#12
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08-22-2006, 04:40 PM	#14
lucky1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 309	A couple grand to get banned from every program.... No thanks. I'll stick to honest work that can bring in way more than a couple grand over time. After reading the post title I would have thought that this thread was started by anal hobbit. __________________ - See sig --->

08-22-2006, 01:44 PM	#2
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	If all 20 sales cancel during trial I doubt they would get paid.. unless the program doesnt have fraud tools in place to catch them. plus the conversions would throw up red flags..

08-22-2006, 02:01 PM	#4
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Well post results and let us know who shaves!

08-22-2006, 02:07 PM	#5
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	why use wi-fi when you can do from home via http proxies... in theory this would work and actually can be made even less risky of getting caught. i will bet money that people are already doing this.

08-22-2006, 02:12 PM	#6
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	The smart cheaters actually let a few of the trials move on. Then it just looks like a statistical anamolly where 17 trials cancelled and 3 moved on.

08-22-2006, 02:15 PM	#7
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	God dammit!!! This is how I make my living. Now you went and fucked it all up. Asshole.

08-22-2006, 04:33 PM	#13
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,413	20 x 35 = Not worth me and 20 buddies time...

08-22-2006, 05:17 PM	#17
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08-22-2006, 06:31 PM	#19
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	could be an affiliate did it to him, and he's pissed CCBill didn't do shit to make ammends?

08-22-2006, 08:34 PM	#20
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	true you might get by once with a few sales but thats about it with us. the only thing is there is plenty of programs to scam that dont have fraud tools and experience in place. So I dont doubt it happens. I see the attempts with us all the time. the best is when they have a 1/1 ratio