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JonBenet Ramsey Case Proves Once Again - There is No God

08-17-2006, 12:56 AM

i feel guilty - i always felt that the parents were involved somehow in the death of their little girl - millions of others felt the same way about them - and then the mother gets cancer and dies just before she and her family are completely exonerated - life is so cruel.

that beauty pageant thing though was creepy - those should be banned for children under 16.

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08-17-2006, 12:57 AM

Now what's your stance on Michal Jackson? ...

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08-17-2006, 12:57 AM

but if there is a god the mom is with the girl now anyway and knows everything
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08-17-2006, 01:00 AM

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Now what's your stance on Michal Jackson? ...

i have always felt some sympathy for him and have never been convinced he is a pedophile - i am convinced he is a very bizarre and screwed up guy - there is no disputing that.

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08-17-2006, 01:00 AM

I hope that puke gets what's coming to him. Drop him in general population.

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08-17-2006, 01:02 AM

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Now what's your stance on Michal Jackson? ...

i'd hit it for the settlement the first kid got

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08-17-2006, 01:02 AM

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08-17-2006, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

i have always felt some sympathy for him and have never been convinced he is a pedophile - i am convinced he is a very bizarre and screwed up guy - there is no disputing that.

That's about what I figure; I haven't followed every single report on it, but I definitely think the second alleged incident was a frame-up.

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08-17-2006, 01:07 AM

All of the thousands upon thousands of kids dying daily of starvation didn't clue you in that there wasn't a God? Oh that's right, most of those that die are black, or at the very least non-white, non-rich kids, i.e. they don't get much media attention and will never even be remembered as a footnote by anyone. Oh yeah, God eats tacos every Wednesday night with Jesus at Taco Bell, I've been stalking them. Going to egg their car next week.
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08-17-2006, 01:12 AM

the girl had bad karma.
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08-17-2006, 01:13 AM

it has nothing to do with the existence of god. it has to do with human perception...

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08-17-2006, 08:25 AM

well, how many porn people belives in god anyway..

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08-17-2006, 08:33 AM

Why would this case prove the non-existence of God? The Bible says these things will happen. Men have free will and nowhere in the Bible does it say that God sits there stopping bad people from doing bad things...

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08-17-2006, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by notabook

All of the thousands upon thousands of kids dying daily of starvation didn't clue you in that there wasn't a God? Oh that's right, most of those that die are black, or at the very least non-white, non-rich kids, i.e. they don't get much media attention and will never even be remembered as a footnote by anyone. Oh yeah, God eats tacos every Wednesday night with Jesus at Taco Bell, I've been stalking them. Going to egg their car next week.

They need to get a clue, and hand out birth control pills, if you can't feed the first kid, don't go on to have 3 more! This leaves more help for food and meds.
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08-17-2006, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

i feel guilty - i always felt that the parents were involved somehow in the death of their little girl - millions of others felt the same way about them - and then the mother gets cancer and dies just before she and her family are completely exonerated - life is so cruel.

that beauty pageant thing though was creepy - those should be banned for children under 16.

And how exactly does this prove there is no God? Because life is cruel?
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08-17-2006, 08:50 AM

all these people witht the same imaginary friend, living their lives based on a book that was written over 1000 years ago by some people that thought the earth was flat...it's kind of funny really
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08-17-2006, 08:51 AM

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And how exactly does this prove there is no God? Because life is cruel?

This is true. There could very well be a god despite this. However if there IS a god and he lets this stuff go on, why worship him? I sure as hell wouldn't. All I hear is excuses FOR this so called god by his flock. I hate it when people do nothing but make excuses, why would I accept it in a god?
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08-17-2006, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by ronaldo

This is true. There could very well be a god despite this. However if there IS a god and he lets this stuff go on, why worship him? I sure as hell wouldn't. All I hear is excuses FOR this so called god by his flock. I hate it when people do nothing but make excuses, why would I accept it in a god?

You are looking at things from the flesh point of view... your 100 years or less as a mortal is practically irrelevant compared to eternity.

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08-17-2006, 08:59 AM

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You are looking at things from the flesh point of view... your 100 years or less as a mortal is practically irrelevant compared to eternity.

I'd argue with that if I could, but I can't. You're right.

It still doesn't make the idea of any god anymore palatable.
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08-17-2006, 09:00 AM

there is a God, and what makes you think humans are the chosen people?

it is called free will, it is up to us as humans to look out for the well being of eachother not "God". i wish people would understand this.
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08-17-2006, 09:03 AM

Rather look for 'love' that Karr's claiming. Spare God in this matter. A non-believer will not waste his/her time to look for proof that God really exists.

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08-17-2006, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

i feel guilty - i always felt that the parents were involved somehow in the death of their little girl - millions of others felt the same way about them - and then the mother gets cancer and dies just before she and her family are completely exonerated - life is so cruel.

that beauty pageant thing though was creepy - those should be banned for children under 16.

I still do think the parents were somehow involved.. This dude is a complete patsie and is taking the fall for this for some reason.
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08-17-2006, 09:03 AM

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it is called free will, it is up to us as humans to look out for the well being of eachother not "God".

Exactly.

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08-17-2006, 09:08 AM

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I still do think the parents were somehow involved.. This dude is a complete patsie and is taking the fall for this for some reason.

I don't believe for a minute that the parents were involved, but unless they've got DNA evidence, it wouldn't surprise me if this guy wasn't involved either.

His ex-wife says he was in a completely different state when the murder took place, and he'd become obsessed with the facts of many child murders. That combined with his public confession make me wonder if he's not just after the publicity.
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08-17-2006, 09:08 AM

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08-17-2006, 09:11 AM

Okay, I don't like the ideas of a "God" either, but since my father was a pastor for a good part of my life I'll play devil's advocate and tell you exactly what the church would say (minus any curse words I may or may not use)... at least the church I used to attend:

God gave us control over this earth. It's his gift to us. It is ours to fuck up if we wish. The reason people have to pray to God is because of that: we have dominion on earth and God therefore needs our permission to act. But even though we ask him to help doesn't mean he always will. He sees the "big picture" which we can't possible see.

Or something like that. Personally, I am pretty sure it's all bullshit.

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08-17-2006, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by carol.prime

A non-believer will not waste his/her time to look for proof that God really exists.

With all due respect, non-believers are the ones USUALLY looking for proof that god exists. They're then told by those that do believe, to just take it on blind faith.
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08-17-2006, 09:15 AM

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there is a God

I've never had an imaginary friend, what's it like?
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08-17-2006, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by ronaldo

I don't believe for a minute that the parents were involved, but unless they've got DNA evidence, it wouldn't surprise me if this guy wasn't involved either.

His ex-wife says he was in a completely different state when the murder took place, and he'd become obsessed with the facts of many child murders. That combined with his public confession make me wonder if he's not just after the publicity.

Yeah that is one of the many strange things, watch him in the airport confessing, its like a bad cliche acting job "I loved her, i killed her, by accident"

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08-17-2006, 09:17 AM

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but if there is a god the mom is with the girl now anyway and knows everything

So true, and it looks like there is finally some closer to all of this.

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08-17-2006, 09:19 AM

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I've never had an imaginary friend, what's it like?

your idiotic post does not phase me,

you are a grown man right? you make your own decisions?

you should probably know by now that it is best to take your own perspective on situations and not listen to others, because obviously on a single situation many will look at it different.

i do the same for my beliefs my beliefs are based on MY OWN PERSONAL expierience, nothing else. i do not put myself into any singular religion.

stop following the pack of non believers just because it is the easiest thing to do, nor should you follow the pack of religious believers, explore your own personal spirituality you may find yourself better off.
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08-17-2006, 09:34 AM

Maybe God exists but he's just one cruel twisted mofo. Have you seen how men behave when they feel they're all mighty and above the law?
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08-17-2006, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by ronaldo

I don't believe for a minute that the parents were involved, but unless they've got DNA evidence, it wouldn't surprise me if this guy wasn't involved either.

His ex-wife says he was in a completely different state when the murder took place, and he'd become obsessed with the facts of many child murders. That combined with his public confession make me wonder if he's not just after the publicity.

Yeah going to wait until more facts are available. Still too many unanswered questions to assess guilt or innocence at the moment.
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08-17-2006, 09:53 AM

You are god.. and your compassion for, and sentiments to, the Benet family make you a better person and the world a better place. Believing in god is believing in you.

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08-17-2006, 10:36 AM

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just before she and her family are completely exonerated

lmao let's not jump to conclusions quite so fast. this guy is obviously a wacko nutjob obsessed with the case, this is his way of getting 15 minutes of fame. Lets see if the dna matches or if he's ever even been to colorado first lol.

I love the gfy standard for complete exoneration. ;)

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08-17-2006, 10:40 AM

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Yeah going to wait until more facts are available. Still too many unanswered questions to assess guilt or innocence at the moment.

Agree Mike - the tendency to offer comments and opinions on high profile or celebrity cases/issues and "trial by TV" is a joke.

In several countries it is not permitted to have media spin/TV comment on the facts of a case from the time of arrest until a jury delivers a verdict - other than performing the functions of "court reporter" - the reasons are obvious. At the same time neither prosecution or defense issue details of the case in an effort to play games and pander to public opinion.

Unfortunately because of media coverage (and helped by the previously known problems of the investigation/prosecution team in Bolder), the JonBenet case has been highlighted to the level of celebrity status with the world and their dogs being under suspicion - and the usual conspiracy theories on this and that.

To put it in perspective and at an individual level, it is a tragedy for any family unit to have a death under these circumstances - even more so if this has not reached a point of closure for them. The stress placed upon close family is bound to be something most of us will never know, especially if this is prolonged for a decade. It would not be unusal to see related problems such as those causing the death of Mrs Ramsey.

However, in the overall, it is often only when the individual level is reached and the public are aware, that there is any concern shown. Since the death of JonBennet, there have been millions of family tragedies around the globe and generally these are treated as statistics - ranging from murders, death by starvation, effects of wars, AIDS, drugs blah - each one when examined, is an individual tragedy at a level which dwarfs all possible media coverage.

Only my - murders/killings need justice and closure, but there is a much wider problem that needs addressing in order to reduce suffering on an individual level. If anything, while the JonBennet case proceeds, hopefully to a conclusion, it may be worth a thought to the millions of others the media, prosecution/defense has never mentioned on any personal level.

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08-17-2006, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by ronaldo

This is true. There could very well be a god despite this. However if there IS a god and he lets this stuff go on, why worship him? I sure as hell wouldn't. All I hear is excuses FOR this so called god by his flock. I hate it when people do nothing but make excuses, why would I accept it in a god?

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08-17-2006, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by ronaldo

With all due respect, non-believers are the ones USUALLY looking for proof that god exists. They're then told by those that do believe, to just take it on blind faith.

hmmmm. another VERY perceptive observation.

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08-17-2006, 11:56 AM

well, after seeing the interview with this creep on cnn i am not so positive he's the guy.

i would wait for the dna tests.
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08-17-2006, 12:21 PM

I've been watching this off and on throughout the day. I say he's a fruitcake and didn't really do it.

They should still execute him either way, though.

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08-17-2006, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by MetaMan

it is called free will, it is up to us as humans to look out for the well being of eachother not "God". i wish people would understand this.

Never thought there would come a time that I agreed with you. There must be a God.
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08-17-2006, 12:49 PM

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I still do think the parents were somehow involved.. This dude is a complete patsie and is taking the fall for this for some reason.

He isn't a patsie, he is a marketer. He is just trying to sell his book.
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08-17-2006, 12:53 PM

yeah - another day of seeing this guy - it's getting more bizarre - i don't know what he's up to but something is real fishy about this guy - starting to see that he might be a wackjob with an obsession with this case and never had any contact with the girl or her family. even if the police do have DNA evidence - alot of people will believe it's some kind of setup.

this is going to be one of those crimes that will never truly be solved for most people.

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