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elron 08-15-2006 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Just saw a documentary...

When your house is burned down due the war, you get money from Hezbollah. When you support Hezbollah you get more...When you fight for Hezbollah you will get the most money...

One girl lost her family...She will get 'life' money from Hezbollah. Enough that foster parents can take care of her, pay her school etc...

The girl will be thankfull to Hezbollah of course, and she will be probably a Hezbollah supporter/fighter too...

The 'non Hezbollah' government does not have any money, so the ppl really need the money....

Hezbollah is actually the only 'insurance' company there...

They make money from business like, a milking farm(legal) but also a lot of drugs...And rumors, which are strong, are saying every month there are money transfers from Iran to Hezbollah for the amount of 100million....

Fucktards, I'm afraid it will take a long long time. . . . .


the situation there is much more complicated . Hezbollah takes care of the Shiah muslim im lebanon , they wont get support from the christians or the druse , which both despise them but keep quiet because they are living in fear .
The Shiah muslim are the majority of the iranian population , and that's where the support comes from . Hezbollah are not just supported by iran economically and logistically , but also in training army units , and political interference . To help lebanon you first need to back iran off them , then lebanon might become as they called themselves in the past "the swiss of the middle east"

c-lo 08-15-2006 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
although i have a deep admiration for success and those who work hard to make it on their own... most people who are self employed and not making a lot of money are generally self employed because of their personalility problems, anti-social behaviors, inability to respect authority, general irresponsibility, attention deficit disorder and so on.

i would guess that for more than 1/2 of all instances here, "self employed" means "unemployable".

Hmmm...point noted. I guess I didn't really take that into account. That very well could be true, especially after seeing some of the posts here. :winkwink: (Not this thread, but of the board in general.)


later
c-lo

Drake 08-15-2006 08:15 PM

Anybody else get this spam email today?

History of Hezbollah/al Qaeda/ and other Anti-American Attacks on the United States


June 5, 1968: Presidential candidate Robert Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan, a Jordanian Arab-Palestinian.
June 17, 1969: An American tourist was killed when the PLO shelled the Israeli resort town of Kallia.
February 21, 1970: Islamist terrorists blew up an Israel-bound Swiss jet killing seven Americans.
February 23, 1970: Halhoul, West Bank. PLO terrorists open fire on a busload of pilgrims killing one and wounding two Americans.
March 28-29, 1970: Beirut, Lebanon. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) fired seven rockets at the U.S. Embassy, the American Insurance Company, Bank of America and the John F. Kennedy library.
May 30, 1972: Ben Gurion Airport, Israel. Three members of the Japanese Red Army, acting on the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine's behalf, carried out a machine-gun and grenade attack at Israel's main airport, killing 26 and wounding 78 people. Many of the casualties were American citizens, mostly from Puerto Rico.
September 5, 1972: Munich, Germany. During the Olympic Games in Munich, Black September Islamists, Fatah killed nine hostages including one American.
March 2, 1973: Khartoum, Sudan U.S. ambassadors Noel and Moore were held hostage and then killed by Islamist Fatah terrorists at the U.S. Embassy.
September 9, 1974: Islamist Terrorists from the Palestinian Abu Nidal group (later went to Iraq) bombed a TWA jet in the air near Greece killing 12 Americans
November 14, 1975: Jerusalem, Israel. Lola Nunberg, 53, of New York, was injured during a bombing attack in downtown Jerusalem. Fatah claimed responsibility for the bombing, which killed six people and wounded 38.
November 21, 1975: An American student was killed by Islamist PLO terrorists from the Democrat Front for the Liberation of Palestine during an axe attack.
August 11, 1976: Istanbul, Turkey. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine launched an attack on the terminal of Israel's major airline, El Al, at the Istanbul airport. Four civilians, including Harold Rosenthal of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (and an aide to U.S. Senator Jacob Javits) were killed and 20 injured.
January 1, 1977: Beirut, Lebanon. Frances E. Meloy, U.S. ambassador to Lebanon, and Robert O.Waring, the U.S. economic counselor, were kidnapped by Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine members as they crossed a militia checkpoint separating the Christian from the Muslim sections of Beirut. They were later shot to death.
March 11, 1978: Tel Aviv, Israel. Gail Rubin, niece of U.S. Senator Abraham Ribicoff, was among 38 people shot to death by PLO terrorists on an Israeli beach.
June 2, 1978: Jerusalem, Israel. Richard Fishman, a medical student from Maryland, was among six killed in a PLO bus bombing in Jerusalem. Chava Sprecher, another American citizen from Seattle, Washington, was injured.
May 4, 1979: Tiberias, Israel. Haim Mark and his wife, Haya, of New Haven, Connecticut were injured in a PLO bombing attack in northern Israel.
November 1979: Islamist Revolutionaries seized the U.S. embassy in Iran holding 52 American hostages for 444 days
1982: Islamist extremists, Hezbollah, took Americans hostage, including Terry Anderson for six and a half years.
April 1983: Islamist, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah bombed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 16 Americans.
October 1983: Hezbollah blew up the U.S. Marine barracks at the Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines.
December 1983: Islamist extremists, al-Dawa, blew up the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait, killing five and injuring 80.
September 1984: Hezbollah exploded a truck bomb at the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut, killing two U.S. servicemen.
December 1984: Hezbollah hijacked a Kuwait Airways airplane and killed two Americans.
June 14, 1985: Hezbollah or other Islamist extremists hijacked TWA Flight 847 out of Athens shooting U.S. Navy diver Robert Dean Stethem and dumped his body on the tarmac.
October 1985: Palestine Liberation Front backed by Libya and lead by Abu Abbas who went on to live in Iraq until the invasion, seized an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, killing an American handicap
December 1985: Libyan Islamist extremists bombed airports in Rome and Vienna, killing five Americans.
April 1986: Islamist extremists (backed by Libya) bombed a Berlin discotheque killing a U.S. soldier.
December 1988: Libyan Islamist extremists bombed Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing all 259 on board and 11 on the ground.
February 1993: Ramzi Yousef leads Islamist extremists al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya and al-Qaeda to bomb the World Trade Center, killing six and wounding more than 1,000.
Spring 1993: Islamist extremists al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, the Sudanese Islamic Front and at least one member of Hamas plot to blow up the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, the U.N. complex and the FBI's lower Manhattan headquarters.
April 1993: Islamist extremists from Iraq fill a Landcruiser with explosives in an attempt to assassinate President Bush Senior during his visit to Kuwait.
November 1995: Hezbollah exploded a car bomb at U.S. military headquarters in Saudi Arabia, killing five U.S. military servicemen.
April 1995: Terry Nichols sought Ramzi Yousef in the Philippines for planning and supervision together with an Iraqi Republican Guard Soldier, Hussain Hashem Alhussaini, helping Timothy McVeigh to rent, prepare and truck bomb the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City killing 168.
June 1996: Islamist extremists, Saudis and Lebanese Hezbollah with al-Qaeda bombed the Khobar Towers military complex killing 19 American servicemen.
August 1998: Islamist extremists al-Qaeda truck bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224.
October 2000: Islamist extremists al-Qaeda blow up the U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole, killing 17 U.S. sailors.
Sept. 11, 2001: Islamist extremists al-Qaeda hijack commercial aircraft and fly planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 Americans.
Sept. 2001: Islamist extremists send 911 anthrax letters, that the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology matched to weaponized anthrax previously found in Iraq, to leaders and media killing and maiming postal workers and others.
June 2002: Al Qaeda bombs American consulate in Pakistan killing 12.
October 2002: hahaha8211; John Mohammed and Lee Malvo arrested with sniper vehicle for several killings in jihad attacks.
May 2003: Al Qaeda suicide bombers kill 8 Americans in Riyadh Saudi Arabia
October 2003:
May, June, Dec, 2004: Islamist extremists kill 9 Americans in Riyadh and Jeddah Saudi Arabia
Nov. 2005: Al Qaeda suicide bombers bomb American hotels in Jordan killing 57 in Jordan


Terror attacks on Americans within the United States and abroad continue. Islamist extremists (al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Abu Saif, Islamist Jihad, Alasqa Martyrs Brigade and many others) employ hijacking, kidnapping, improvised bombs and suicide bombs to attack Afghanistan, Bali, Britain, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Israel, Morocco, Nepal, Nigeria, Philippines, Russia, Spain, Sudan, Turkey, Thailand.

Webby 08-15-2006 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Hezbollah is smart

Just saw a documentary...

Dammit justsexxx - Who the fuck do you think you are claiming Hezbollah is smart?? :winkwink:

Anything Hezbollah or the Israeli's do with have *some* great meaning and political connotations here.

Seriously... yea, almost as soon as the ceasefire took effect and people started returning to their homes Hezbollah announced they were paying out for accomodation where folks were left with no home or damaged homes - and going to keep paying for up to a year to allow them to reconstruct.

GoodGuy 08-15-2006 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvd316
I'm sure you did.

Momma remind you to take your meds before bedtime yet?

No, your wife did.

She offered me some of your viagra. But I told her I don't need that shit to get hard rock erections and I wanked off over her face. Ask her. :pimp

Spankys Teens 08-15-2006 10:30 PM

it's just too bad that a 'handful' arabas are succeeding to fuck up the whole world. You guys don't seem to understand that they've already completed one of their missions 'Dominating the world with terror'.
You can't even fly anymore without a constant thought of what might happen especially when you see a muslim on your flight.
SO yeah, they have succeeded in terrorising our minds. I just don't understand why there are people here defending them.
Sure, they all have big mouths sitting in some shitty town somewhere far away where nothing happens but if they'd be closer to the action or have relatives that are victims of terror they'd sound differently.

Anyways, I think that investing more time cutting of Iran and Syria's supplies to the Hezbollah would do the job instead of bombing beirut.
Then again, i do support defence. So hezbollah needed to get their asses kicked big time to stop the shelling. Now Israel has done that, the world should continue to stop iran and syria.

G'day lads

scottybuzz 08-15-2006 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvd316
... exactly how the nazis did it... yep, smart

even some idiot sheeple in the US think the Hezzbolah are good peeps

america is a very big country, you get all sorts of wierdo's

darnit 08-15-2006 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Just saw a documentary...

When your house is burned down due the war, you get money from Hezbollah. When you support Hezbollah you get more...When you fight for Hezbollah you will get the most money...

One girl lost her family...She will get 'life' money from Hezbollah. Enough that foster parents can take care of her, pay her school etc...

The girl will be thankfull to Hezbollah of course, and she will be probably a Hezbollah supporter/fighter too...

The 'non Hezbollah' government does not have any money, so the ppl really need the money....

Hezbollah is actually the only 'insurance' company there...

They make money from business like, a milking farm(legal) but also a lot of drugs...And rumors, which are strong, are saying every month there are money transfers from Iran to Hezbollah for the amount of 100million....

Fucktards, I'm afraid it will take a long long time. . . . .

how's their retirement plan? :1orglaugh

E$_manager 08-15-2006 11:15 PM

interesting Hesbollah.

justsexxx 08-16-2006 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elron
the situation there is much more complicated . Hezbollah takes care of the Shiah muslim im lebanon , they wont get support from the christians or the druse , which both despise them but keep quiet because they are living in fear .
The Shiah muslim are the majority of the iranian population , and that's where the support comes from . Hezbollah are not just supported by iran economically and logistically , but also in training army units , and political interference . To help lebanon you first need to back iran off them , then lebanon might become as they called themselves in the past "the swiss of the middle east"


Yeah true. That was also described, and also in a book I read...Not everyone is helped, just one group of the muslims... But I wanted to keep it simple for some of the GFY peeps:)

alexg 08-16-2006 03:35 AM

yeah, bottom line of this war is definitely "hezbollah are smart"...sure

:1orglaugh

justsexxx 08-16-2006 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
yeah, bottom line of this war is definitely "hezbollah are smart"...sure

:1orglaugh


Ahh you are from Israel...I know ppl as well living in Israel, and they also live within the reach of those rockets/bombs from the fuckers from Hezbollah...

Again, I'm not saying they are good etc...Point is, their tactics to become/stay popular in Libanon do work very well....

alexg 08-16-2006 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Ahh you are from Israel...I know ppl as well living in Israel, and they also live within the reach of those rockets/bombs from the fuckers from Hezbollah...

Again, I'm not saying they are good etc...Point is, their tactics to become/stay popular in Libanon do work very well....

I agree... their tactic works for radical muslims who don't believe in the value of life, but rather in values such as land, god, and respect.

do you think that's a smart belief? if so, then yes, hezbollah and their supporters are smart.

their tactics don't work for people who value life and see the facts:
hundreds of dead hezbollah members, hundreds of dead lebanese civilians, hundreds of thousands of people who have turned into refugees, tens of years that it will take for lebanon to fix things up...
and it's not like the IDF did nearly the maximum damage that they could if they wanted :2 cents:

Manowar 08-16-2006 04:44 AM

drama politics

justsexxx 08-16-2006 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
I agree... their tactic works for radical muslims who don't believe in the value of life, but rather in values such as land, god, and respect.

do you think that's a smart belief? if so, then yes, hezbollah and their supporters are smart.

You don't get the point...Of course they are 'not smart' However, the way they recruite new people IS smart

Andre

Miss Vlasta 08-16-2006 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
When you have nothing, a few bucks is a lot...

And some ppl came on ICQ saying I was a terrorist, that I hate jews etc....I am not supporting Hezbollah, I am just saying they have some smart ways of recuiting 'new ppl'. And it will be hard to defeat Hezbollah, as long as they have many supporters and money....

That is all...

Thatīs reality. Money means power and power is money :(

SmokeyTheBear 08-16-2006 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33
History of Hezbollah/al Qaeda/ and other Anti-American Attacks on the United States - continued below -

wouldnt every attack on the united states be "anti-american" ? so basically they are lumping every known attack on america to hezbollah/al queda .. what idiocy. Infact the very first "factoid" is about sirhan sirhan , who was neither hezbollah not al queda, the only similarity being he had brown skin.. if you reversed the roles and put " history of white people attacking brown people ", the list would be endless

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33
June 5, 1968: Presidential candidate Robert Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan, a Jordanian Arab-Palestinian.
June 17, 1969: An American tourist was killed when the PLO shelled the Israeli resort town of Kallia.
February 21, 1970: Islamist terrorists blew up an Israel-bound Swiss jet killing seven Americans.
February 23, 1970: Halhoul, West Bank. PLO terrorists open fire on a busload of pilgrims killing one and wounding two Americans.
March 28-29, 1970: Beirut, Lebanon. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) fired seven rockets at the U.S. Embassy, the American Insurance Company, Bank of America and the John F. Kennedy library.
May 30, 1972: Ben Gurion Airport, Israel. Three members of the Japanese Red Army, acting on the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine's behalf, carried out a machine-gun and grenade attack at Israel's main airport, killing 26 and wounding 78 people. Many of the casualties were American citizens, mostly from Puerto Rico.
September 5, 1972: Munich, Germany. During the Olympic Games in Munich, Black September Islamists, Fatah killed nine hostages including one American.
March 2, 1973: Khartoum, Sudan U.S. ambassadors Noel and Moore were held hostage and then killed by Islamist Fatah terrorists at the U.S. Embassy.
September 9, 1974: Islamist Terrorists from the Palestinian Abu Nidal group (later went to Iraq) bombed a TWA jet in the air near Greece killing 12 Americans
November 14, 1975: Jerusalem, Israel. Lola Nunberg, 53, of New York, was injured during a bombing attack in downtown Jerusalem. Fatah claimed responsibility for the bombing, which killed six people and wounded 38.
November 21, 1975: An American student was killed by Islamist PLO terrorists from the Democrat Front for the Liberation of Palestine during an axe attack.
August 11, 1976: Istanbul, Turkey. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine launched an attack on the terminal of Israel's major airline, El Al, at the Istanbul airport. Four civilians, including Harold Rosenthal of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (and an aide to U.S. Senator Jacob Javits) were killed and 20 injured.
January 1, 1977: Beirut, Lebanon. Frances E. Meloy, U.S. ambassador to Lebanon, and Robert O.Waring, the U.S. economic counselor, were kidnapped by Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine members as they crossed a militia checkpoint separating the Christian from the Muslim sections of Beirut. They were later shot to death.
March 11, 1978: Tel Aviv, Israel. Gail Rubin, niece of U.S. Senator Abraham Ribicoff, was among 38 people shot to death by PLO terrorists on an Israeli beach.
June 2, 1978: Jerusalem, Israel. Richard Fishman, a medical student from Maryland, was among six killed in a PLO bus bombing in Jerusalem. Chava Sprecher, another American citizen from Seattle, Washington, was injured.
May 4, 1979: Tiberias, Israel. Haim Mark and his wife, Haya, of New Haven, Connecticut were injured in a PLO bombing attack in northern Israel.
November 1979: Islamist Revolutionaries seized the U.S. embassy in Iran holding 52 American hostages for 444 days
1982: Islamist extremists, Hezbollah, took Americans hostage, including Terry Anderson for six and a half years.
April 1983: Islamist, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah bombed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 16 Americans.
October 1983: Hezbollah blew up the U.S. Marine barracks at the Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines.
December 1983: Islamist extremists, al-Dawa, blew up the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait, killing five and injuring 80.
September 1984: Hezbollah exploded a truck bomb at the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut, killing two U.S. servicemen.
December 1984: Hezbollah hijacked a Kuwait Airways airplane and killed two Americans.
June 14, 1985: Hezbollah or other Islamist extremists hijacked TWA Flight 847 out of Athens shooting U.S. Navy diver Robert Dean Stethem and dumped his body on the tarmac.
October 1985: Palestine Liberation Front backed by Libya and lead by Abu Abbas who went on to live in Iraq until the invasion, seized an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, killing an American handicap
December 1985: Libyan Islamist extremists bombed airports in Rome and Vienna, killing five Americans.
April 1986: Islamist extremists (backed by Libya) bombed a Berlin discotheque killing a U.S. soldier.
December 1988: Libyan Islamist extremists bombed Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing all 259 on board and 11 on the ground.
February 1993: Ramzi Yousef leads Islamist extremists al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya and al-Qaeda to bomb the World Trade Center, killing six and wounding more than 1,000.
Spring 1993: Islamist extremists al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, the Sudanese Islamic Front and at least one member of Hamas plot to blow up the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, the U.N. complex and the FBI's lower Manhattan headquarters.
April 1993: Islamist extremists from Iraq fill a Landcruiser with explosives in an attempt to assassinate President Bush Senior during his visit to Kuwait.
November 1995: Hezbollah exploded a car bomb at U.S. military headquarters in Saudi Arabia, killing five U.S. military servicemen.
April 1995: Terry Nichols sought Ramzi Yousef in the Philippines for planning and supervision together with an Iraqi Republican Guard Soldier, Hussain Hashem Alhussaini, helping Timothy McVeigh to rent, prepare and truck bomb the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City killing 168.
June 1996: Islamist extremists, Saudis and Lebanese Hezbollah with al-Qaeda bombed the Khobar Towers military complex killing 19 American servicemen.
August 1998: Islamist extremists al-Qaeda truck bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224.
October 2000: Islamist extremists al-Qaeda blow up the U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole, killing 17 U.S. sailors.
Sept. 11, 2001: Islamist extremists al-Qaeda hijack commercial aircraft and fly planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 Americans.
Sept. 2001: Islamist extremists send 911 anthrax letters, that the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology matched to weaponized anthrax previously found in Iraq, to leaders and media killing and maiming postal workers and others.
June 2002: Al Qaeda bombs American consulate in Pakistan killing 12.
October 2002: hahaha8211; John Mohammed and Lee Malvo arrested with sniper vehicle for several killings in jihad attacks.
May 2003: Al Qaeda suicide bombers kill 8 Americans in Riyadh Saudi Arabia
October 2003:
May, June, Dec, 2004: Islamist extremists kill 9 Americans in Riyadh and Jeddah Saudi Arabia
Nov. 2005: Al Qaeda suicide bombers bomb American hotels in Jordan killing 57 in Jordan


Terror attacks on Americans within the United States and abroad continue. Islamist extremists (al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Abu Saif, Islamist Jihad, Alasqa Martyrs Brigade and many others) employ hijacking, kidnapping, improvised bombs and suicide bombs to attack Afghanistan, Bali, Britain, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Israel, Morocco, Nepal, Nigeria, Philippines, Russia, Spain, Sudan, Turkey, Thailand.


Webby 08-16-2006 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
wouldnt every attack on the united states be "anti-american" ? so basically they are lumping every known attack on america to hezbollah/al queda .. what idiocy. Infact the very first "factoid" is about sirhan sirhan , who was neither hezbollah not al queda, the only similarity being he had brown skin.. if you reversed the roles and put " history of white people attacking brown people ", the list would be endless

Agree - that list is just more bullshit spew - the text has been copied from website to website and gets changed as it suits along the way. So much for stuffing up website content - the webmasters obviously have little clue either else they would have corrected a few obvious errors. BTW.. Hellbollah didn't even exist when that list started and sure as hell, neither did Al Queda.

Just started looking at one random sample - sure the incident happened, but not as decribed on that list nor were Hezbollah involved. Got enough to do without wasting time on crap.

OK.. Will respond to a few ... from the start...

June 5, 1968: Presidential candidate Robert Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan - you answered already Smokey.

June 17, 1969: An American tourist was killed when the PLO shelled the Israeli resort town of Kallia. -- So??? "American tourists" never were different to others in a conflict area. Did you know an Icelander was killed in Saudi last year?

February 21, 1970: Islamist terrorists blew up an Israel-bound Swiss jet killing seven Americans. -- Sheesh... they killed far more than seven Americans - what about the others??? DUH?

February 23, 1970: Halhoul, West Bank. PLO terrorists open fire on a busload of pilgrims killing one and wounding two Americans. -- The bus had more than Americans on board. Who cares what fucking nationality they are? They are dead - same as all others killed in conflicts.

This is too stupid - I'm going for a long late breakfast and intelligent conversation :thumbsup


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