I have no interest whatsoever in participating in a boring old GFY "discussion" about "sides".

Whatever is said is better said in that a fair and balanced view is presented. If someone resorts to insults and bullshit - that reflects back on them.

To be honest, my only interest in this is in the quality of the media and balance (it's something from an early past training) - it's not about Lebanon or Israel, - only about fair and balanced footage.

That aside - sure, on a casual basis she sure has an interesting mouth - tho not unique, and makes good TV.

http://aqoul.com/images/wafa_sultan.pdf

There's the transcript, I couldn't find the video so if anyone wants to do a little reading go ahead :) I personally liked this exchange at the end of the conversation between the host and Ibrahim al-Khouly

lol, go Wasa Sultan, it's too bad you're getting death threats for stating an opposing opinion.

Na you only interest was to change the whole subject from discussion about islam , to claiming that memri are hackers and bad editers and some other ridiculous arguments .

your an idiot. :2 cents:

you're an idiot, idiot.

And that is exactly how this video, presented in this way, is propaganda. That guy said a lot more, but this part was deliberately chosen, making him look even worse than he does in the interview as a whole.

Totally wrong and absurd.

I was never discussing Islam and have no interest in discussing Islam or any other religion.

I was discussing the quality of a movie edited by MEMRI and what you purported to be the "Islam - The Actual Truth". It comprises of the verbal of one woman - and clearly is her opinion. It is not even a discussion on Islam or anything else.

Of course MEMRI are hackers - that is exactly their function, namely to "inform the debate over U.S. policy in the Middle East". The content is edited very badly - no doubts of that.

There are plenty govt based orgs and lobby groups - not just in the US, who also purvey what they claim to be fair and balanced reporting - including the "propagada department" of my own govt who churn out crap to suit the occasion. MEMRI is just one such organization. There was never a lobby group on this planet who never had an agenda - otherwise they serve no purpose.

Try all the side-tracking and deviancy on someone else - I got better things to spend time on that listen to justifications that may suit you or how MEMRI is an "independent news source".

Agreed. As if Al-Jazeera is "fair and balanced" to begin with and not the official mouthpiece for Al-Qaeda and the rest of the Islamo-Nazis.

BTW you forgot to add anti-Israel and anti-military to the above list.

well that woman wasn't any of the above, maybe you have a point but this video certainly isn't it.

although i applaud the speaker for everything she said and agree for the most part... i think that even a retarded monkey can see that the video is heavily edited, poorly edited and is not in any way a reflection of the actual interview in its entirety.


propaganda is propaganda... agreeing with it, doesn't make it something else.

:2 cents:

50 suicide bombers

Actually, they shouldn't have cut the video at all...because if you read the transcript I posted with the full interview it pretty much makes the person she was debating look like a nutcase.

Ya just hit the nail on the head Mr B.

It's a pity they tried to be clever with it and edit out the other view - there is nothing like showing the whole story to let people make up their own mind.

The moment any bullshit enters a discussion - the lot becomes transparent. Was originally trained as a film editor and this is typical material - even on very innocuous, innocent and non-political/non-religious footage it's very easy to see thru people when they are caught on film - and kinda funny :winkwink:

If ya let this be shown fully - it opens up lots of good stuff, biases and weaknesses, - which you'd hope leads to the truth.

You are a sad individual, and pretty fucked up ; nobody, I repeat , nobody brought up Bush, or the USA, or America ... until you showed up ...

Elron was making his point that she was shitting on Islam.
Webby was pointing out that it lost credibility because of edits ...

And you come in, and post something absolutely irrelevant ... you really are obessed ... with your America ...

Now, you can start the name calling ....