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jimmy-3-way · 08-13-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

don;t you keep track of what you payout and what comes in ?

woudnt you notice you are getting more money than you are suppose to when paying out affilates??

You must be fucking kidding. And 150 or 200 or whatever.

L-Pink · 08-13-2006, 11:10 PM

"disallowed the software"

Phrased to imply actions taken to cause nats problem ???????

gooddomains · 08-14-2006, 12:09 AM

was this already resolved ?

pornonada · 08-14-2006, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Everyone-just give Xclusivecash a few days to settle things - coming home to this will take some time to sort out. This is an outstanding program with good, solid honest people running the program.

Purple Haze

I have a feeling you didn't read much on both threads, right?
Your comment is just as much as a joke.

pocketkangaroo · 08-14-2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Chris,

I know how those phone calls are when you are travelling home and can't do anything on the road. Everyone-just give Xclusivecash a few days to settle things - coming home to this will take some time to sort out. This is an outstanding program with good, solid honest people running the program.

Purple Haze

Then why haven't they defended themselves more? Why haven't they provided screenshots of CCBill numbers that they paid? Why hasn't this been sorted out?

I would think if I were accused of shaving, I would have proof I didn't as quickly as possible. I would be on the phone non-stop to get it straightened out and prove that I wasn't a thief. Why are we almost a week into this without a response with substance?

pornonada · 08-14-2006, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Then why haven't they defended themselves more? Why haven't they provided screenshots of CCBill numbers that they paid? Why hasn't this been sorted out?

I would think if I were accused of shaving, I would have proof I didn't as quickly as possible. I would be on the phone non-stop to get it straightened out and prove that I wasn't a thief. Why are we almost a week into this without a response with substance?

well said

Tdog · 08-14-2006, 05:43 AM

Nice, there are always 2 sides of the story.

XxXotic · 08-14-2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Would you not rather 2men?

you're confusing me with xclusive again

webair · 08-14-2006, 08:57 AM

daym tucker good luck man if there is anything we can do to help let me know...

Jace · 08-15-2006, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Then why haven't they defended themselves more? Why haven't they provided screenshots of CCBill numbers that they paid? Why hasn't this been sorted out?

I would think if I were accused of shaving, I would have proof I didn't as quickly as possible. I would be on the phone non-stop to get it straightened out and prove that I wasn't a thief. Why are we almost a week into this without a response with substance?

it does make you wonder doesn't it?

SonOfJesus · 08-15-2006, 04:25 PM

There is nothing to 'wonder' about my children.

The holy NATS has exposed these lucifers. They are hiding, planning the next move, beware being bitten twice by the snake of poisonous greed.

Jace · 08-16-2006, 04:41 AM

bump to the top again

Paul · 08-16-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NakedRhino_Chris
We will not be adding to the posts or participating in a public discussion on this issue until all of the facts have been looked at.

Hmm, its been 3 days and not one reply yet. You'd think with claims as damaging as this to a company, that they would be trying to respond to questions and offering explainations pronto !

mailman · 08-16-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Coatsy

Hmm, its been 3 days and not one reply yet. You'd think with claims as damaging as this to a company, that they would be trying to respond to questions and offering explainations pronto !

Yep fucked up for sure... Me thinks they are trying to be tricky and the situation will take an intresting turn.

XxXotic · 08-16-2006, 10:08 AM

I hate the smell of jacked rebills in the morning

Qbert · 08-16-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by XxXotic

I hate the smell of jacked rebills in the morning

Ditto, and the smell just keeps getting worse the longer this goes on without resolution

mailman · 08-16-2006, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Qbert

Ditto, and the smell just keeps getting worse the longer this goes on without resolution

Not even a resolution... how about a responce, I think they have had more then enough time to look "into" the issue and come back with a yep there was an issue here is your money or nope no issue your all crazy please carry on! The longer it goes unanswerd the more it hurts their own reputation... They think NATS did damage? HA making a thread like this and never comming back just pretty much put the gun to your own head!

JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES · 08-16-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

i wonder if this post (my post) will be read out in court ? lmfao

i sure hope SonofJesus' posts are

gleem · 08-16-2006, 10:52 AM

as a NATS customer the whole thing did kind of scare me that they have such power, but as an affiliate it made me feel warm and fuzzy.

Kimmykim · 08-16-2006, 11:20 AM

Did I just see a post from John in here about how they verified this as true? I don't have any horse in this race, but I did spend two years as one of the VP's at CCBill, and back then, our contract was with the MERCHANT. Not with any third party software vendor.

What does that mean, some of you may be asking yourselves right about now? Well, that means that other than the NR folks, NO ONE would have access to their CCBill account UNLESS they had given them access to it. I can't, in any real sense, imagine that CCBill has changed their contract to allow others to access accounts that don't belong to them.

In that case, did NATS have access to NR's CCBill account at some point? And was that access limited to whatever they needed in the install process? Or is there something in the NATS terms that say you have to give them ongoing access to your processing accounts?

And the fact that NATS is basically holding sales hostage so that no affiliates get paid at the moment is what this appears to be in my eyes.

As I said above, I don't have any particular interest in either party... and I'm not saying that either party is right, or that either party is telling the whole story. I just find this odd beyond belief that something could be verified through CCBill without the account owner allowing access either on an unlimited basis or specifically at different times and it doesn't really sound to me as if Chris, on his drive from FL to NC, would have called up CCBill and authorized NATS to access his account. Nor does it sound like he would have given NATS a user pass to that account if he was angry and hung up on them.

I'm sure there's ALOT more to this story than meets the eye.

TheSenator · 08-16-2006, 11:24 AM

I am pretty sure at this point that they shaved..

The piling up of rebills not being notice is BULLSHIT!

gooddomains · 08-16-2006, 11:33 AM

what's the outcome of this ?

JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES · 08-16-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

what's the outcome of this ?

they be snakes on a plane muffukah!

gleem · 08-16-2006, 11:54 AM

NATS can tell from simply looking at the billers logs on the server that NATS keeps and then checking the # of rebills that shows up in the admin of the sponsors NATS install.

there's no way CCBILL gave em access to the webmaster CCBILL account, never happened, no freakin way, if they did CCBILL would get sued so fast.

gleem · 08-16-2006, 11:57 AM

also NATS probably discovered all this when the sponsor either needed something fixed, or when NATS went on the sponsors server to update NATS (they do periodic updates).

Kimmykim · 08-16-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

NATS can tell from simply looking at the billers logs on the server that NATS keeps and then checking the # of rebills that shows up in the admin of the sponsors NATS install.

there's no way CCBILL gave em access to the webmaster CCBILL account, never happened, no freakin way, if they did CCBILL would get sued so fast.

NATS would have the billing logs handy for every program they process for if they wanted to peruse them?

I'm stunned.

gooddomains · 08-16-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

NATS would have the billing logs handy for every program they process for if they wanted to peruse them?

I'm stunned.

you'll learn something new every day

Jace · 08-16-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

NATS can tell from simply looking at the billers logs on the server that NATS keeps and then checking the # of rebills that shows up in the admin of the sponsors NATS install.

there's no way CCBILL gave em access to the webmaster CCBILL account, never happened, no freakin way, if they did CCBILL would get sued so fast.

unless there was a supoena involved, in which ccbill would have to turn over the #'s

gleem · 08-16-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

unless there was a supoena involved, in which ccbill would have to turn over the #'s

yes, you are correct, I don't believe there were any subpoenas here though

Jace · 08-16-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

yes, you are correct, I don't believe there were any subpoenas here though

what you don't know CAN hurt you ;)

well, maybe not you directly...LOL

gleem · 08-16-2006, 03:22 PM

are you saying that TMM subpoenaed CCBIll to see their stats? If you think that I'd suggest you stick to your tinfoil hat club ;)

Jace · 08-16-2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

are you saying that TMM subpoenaed CCBIll to see their stats? If you think that I'd suggest you stick to your tinfoil hat club ;)

I never said that

i don't know anything

seriously

gleem · 08-16-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

i don't know anything

ok, I believe you

Jace · 08-16-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

are you saying that TMM subpoenaed CCBIll to see their stats? If you think that I'd suggest you stick to your tinfoil hat club ;)

I'd imagine a subpoeanas wouldnt be needed, I mean if I was NRM would be pulling my CCbill stats and compare to what NATS has.. if numbers match up... there's no problem, and if there's nothing to hide it wouldn't take a supoena or 3 days to get that done

mailman · 08-16-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

... if there's nothing to hide it wouldn't take a supoena or 3 days to get that done

Unless your trying to buy time?

Jace · 08-16-2006, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Unless your trying to buy time?

yeah, but in my experience the only people that try and buy time after an accusation like this, are the guilty ones

mailman · 08-16-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

yeah, but in my experience the only people that try and buy time after an accusation like this, are the guilty ones

sadly I have to agree

gooddomains · 08-17-2006, 12:54 AM

any news about this ?

Dagwolf · 08-17-2006, 01:04 AM

Bump for an informative thread!

Jace · 08-17-2006, 02:30 AM

bump up to the top

LiveDose · 08-17-2006, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

I'm sure there's ALOT more to this story than meets the eye.

Great post KimmyKim and I agree there is a whole lot more to this story than what's in the thread. Something stinks here beyond the surface. This to me appears to be part of a larger picture...

Jace · 08-17-2006, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LiveDose

Great post KimmyKim and I agree there is a whole lot more to this story than what's in the thread. Something stinks here beyond the surface. This to me appears to be part of a larger picture...

well, now that it has been days and there hasn't been any resolution, I imagine there is WAY more to this story than what we are seeing

if I was a company accused of shaving, I would want to clear it up ASAP....doesn't seem lik xclusive is even trying to clear it all up

Quick Buck · 08-17-2006, 06:36 AM

The assumptions people are making seem funny to me.

Especially you Jace given the quote in your sig. The idea that somebody is guilty just because they aren't on gfy rolling in the mud seems ludicrous.

For all anybody here knows, their lawyer told them that it would be a bad idea for them to post about the subject as they prepare their suit.

Do you assume every person who gets involved in a legal battle and says "No comment" is secretly saying "I'm guilty" ? Of course not, anything they say can be brought up in court.

I have NO idea what happened in the situation, I haven't talked to anybody about it, but what I do know is that one person (john) posted one thing in a thread, the gfy witch hunt started, and lawyers got involved.

There is nothing xclusivecash can post here to help themselves out here. If they say "we didnt do it" everybody will scream that they are liars. If they say "we did it on accident" everybody will scream that they are liars. If they say "we did it on purpose" everybody will scream that they are theives.

This is really a lot like the witch hunts, throw them in the water... if they float their witches, if they drown they werent. Until I hear a recording of the phone call I'm not going to assume that the guy was "rude" and screamed profanity before hanging up.

You keep indicating that you know a lot more than you're letting on... so if you have more information then why not share it instead of just pouring gas on the fire and participating in a witch hunt.

gooddomains · 08-17-2006, 06:44 AM

I hate witch hunts

Manowar · 08-17-2006, 08:27 AM

good luck getting it resolved

Jace · 08-17-2006, 04:41 PM

The Dingo Ate Your Baby!

Jace · 08-19-2006, 10:06 AM

eat my poopy

Jace · 08-23-2006, 01:51 PM

I just noticed something about this statement that I guess I didn't catch before.....but Chris didn't say once in that statement that "we are working with NATS to have this issue resolved immediately"....

Tempest · 08-23-2006, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

I just noticed something about this statement that I guess I didn't catch before.....but Chris didn't say once in that statement that "we are working with NATS to have this issue resolved immediately"....

Because they're not... They cared more about sueing NATs than making sure their affiliates got/get paid.

Qbert · 08-24-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

...They cared more about sueing NATs than making sure their affiliates got/get paid.

You noticed that too eh? It speaks volumes.

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08-16-2006, 10:52 AM	#169
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	as a NATS customer the whole thing did kind of scare me that they have such power, but as an affiliate it made me feel warm and fuzzy. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

08-13-2006, 11:10 PM	#152
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	"disallowed the software" Phrased to imply actions taken to cause nats problem ???????

08-14-2006, 12:09 AM	#153
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	was this already resolved ?

08-16-2006, 04:41 AM	#162
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	bump to the top again

08-16-2006, 11:20 AM	#170
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Did I just see a post from John in here about how they verified this as true? I don't have any horse in this race, but I did spend two years as one of the VP's at CCBill, and back then, our contract was with the MERCHANT. Not with any third party software vendor. What does that mean, some of you may be asking yourselves right about now? Well, that means that other than the NR folks, NO ONE would have access to their CCBill account UNLESS they had given them access to it. I can't, in any real sense, imagine that CCBill has changed their contract to allow others to access accounts that don't belong to them. In that case, did NATS have access to NR's CCBill account at some point? And was that access limited to whatever they needed in the install process? Or is there something in the NATS terms that say you have to give them ongoing access to your processing accounts? And the fact that NATS is basically holding sales hostage so that no affiliates get paid at the moment is what this appears to be in my eyes. As I said above, I don't have any particular interest in either party... and I'm not saying that either party is right, or that either party is telling the whole story. I just find this odd beyond belief that something could be verified through CCBill without the account owner allowing access either on an unlimited basis or specifically at different times and it doesn't really sound to me as if Chris, on his drive from FL to NC, would have called up CCBill and authorized NATS to access his account. Nor does it sound like he would have given NATS a user pass to that account if he was angry and hung up on them. I'm sure there's ALOT more to this story than meets the eye.

08-16-2006, 11:24 AM	#171
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,336	I am pretty sure at this point that they shaved.. The piling up of rebills not being notice is BULLSHIT! __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

08-16-2006, 11:33 AM	#172
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	what's the outcome of this ?

08-16-2006, 11:54 AM	#174
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	NATS can tell from simply looking at the billers logs on the server that NATS keeps and then checking the # of rebills that shows up in the admin of the sponsors NATS install. there's no way CCBILL gave em access to the webmaster CCBILL account, never happened, no freakin way, if they did CCBILL would get sued so fast. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

08-16-2006, 11:57 AM	#175
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	also NATS probably discovered all this when the sponsor either needed something fixed, or when NATS went on the sponsors server to update NATS (they do periodic updates). __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

08-16-2006, 03:22 PM	#181
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	are you saying that TMM subpoenaed CCBIll to see their stats? If you think that I'd suggest you stick to your tinfoil hat club ;) __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

08-17-2006, 12:54 AM	#188
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	any news about this ?

08-17-2006, 01:04 AM	#189
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08-17-2006, 02:30 AM	#190
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08-17-2006, 06:36 AM	#193
Quick Buck Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Free-Trials.......... Weekly-Payouts..... 100+Sites Posts: 1,026	The assumptions people are making seem funny to me. Especially you Jace given the quote in your sig. The idea that somebody is guilty just because they aren't on gfy rolling in the mud seems ludicrous. For all anybody here knows, their lawyer told them that it would be a bad idea for them to post about the subject as they prepare their suit. Do you assume every person who gets involved in a legal battle and says "No comment" is secretly saying "I'm guilty" ? Of course not, anything they say can be brought up in court. I have NO idea what happened in the situation, I haven't talked to anybody about it, but what I do know is that one person (john) posted one thing in a thread, the gfy witch hunt started, and lawyers got involved. There is nothing xclusivecash can post here to help themselves out here. If they say "we didnt do it" everybody will scream that they are liars. If they say "we did it on accident" everybody will scream that they are liars. If they say "we did it on purpose" everybody will scream that they are theives. This is really a lot like the witch hunts, throw them in the water... if they float their witches, if they drown they werent. Until I hear a recording of the phone call I'm not going to assume that the guy was "rude" and screamed profanity before hanging up. You keep indicating that you know a lot more than you're letting on... so if you have more information then why not share it instead of just pouring gas on the fire and participating in a witch hunt. __________________ $50 FREE TRIALS! Every Day til 2008!!! Only at QuickBuck

08-17-2006, 06:44 AM	#194
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	I hate witch hunts

08-17-2006, 08:27 AM	#195
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	good luck getting it resolved

08-17-2006, 04:41 PM	#196
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	The Dingo Ate Your Baby!

08-19-2006, 10:06 AM	#197
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	eat my poopy

08-23-2006, 01:51 PM	#198
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	I just noticed something about this statement that I guess I didn't catch before.....but Chris didn't say once in that statement that "we are working with NATS to have this issue resolved immediately"....