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Old 06-20-2002, 08:51 AM   #1
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Don't do drugs

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Old 06-20-2002, 09:04 AM   #2
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Old 06-20-2002, 09:37 AM   #3
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Drugs are BAD, but they should put cocain back in cola
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Old 06-20-2002, 09:40 AM   #5
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penecillin and tyenol arent bad..

illegal drugs are bad
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Old 06-20-2002, 10:07 AM   #6
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why? did you overdose again?
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Drugs are bad but I bet your pops and you get ripped on beer dontcha?
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Old 06-20-2002, 10:23 AM   #8
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Substance Reckoned Safety Ratio
(Closest Available Analogy)

Vitamin A 9637 (mice oral:human oral 15mg)
LSD 4816 (rodents iv:human oral 0.25mg),averaged
5-MeO-DMT 958 (mice intraperitoneal:human parenteral 6mg)
Psilocybin 641 (rodents iv:human oral 16mg),averaged
THC 420 (rats inhaled:human smoked 5mg)
Aspirin 199 (rodents oral:human oral 325mg),averaged
DMT 91 (mice intramuscular:humanintramuscular 60mg)
Caffeine 84 (rodents oral:human oral 150mg),averaged
Acetaminophen 34 (mice oral:human oral 500mg)
Nicotine 21 (mice iv:human smoked 0.7mg)
VX (Nerve Gas) 0 (just a hunch)
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Old 06-20-2002, 10:24 AM   #9
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LD50s for Various Substances
(with ratios regarding relative safety/toxicity)
Typical "Safety Ratio"
Substance LD50 route animal Human Dose LD50=Doses/50Kg
Ethyl Alcohol 10.6 g/kg o young rats
7.06 g/kg o old rats
Caffeine 127 mg/Kg o mice (male) 100-200mg o 63 - 31
137 mg/Kg o mice (female) 68 - 34
230 mg/Kg o hamster(male) 115 - 57
249 mg/Kg o hamster(female) 124 - 62
355 mg/Kg o rat(male) 177 - 88
247 mg/Kg o rat(female) 123 - 61
246 mg/Kg o rabbit(male) 123 - 61
227 mg/Kg o rabbit(female) 113 - 56
140 mg/Kg o dog
75 mg/Kg
192 mg/Kg o rat
260 mg/Kg ip rat
105 mg/Kg iv rat
AMT 38 mg/kg3 ip mouse
22 mg/kg3 o rat
DET 28 mg/kg iv mouse 60 mg im/po 23
DIPT 26 mg/kg iv mouse 30 mg o 43
DMT 110 mg/kg im mouse 60 mg im 91
5-MeO-DMT 115 mg/kg ip mouse 6 mg p 958
DPT 20 mg/kg iv mouse 60 mg po 16
Sodium-GHB 2,000 mg/kg ip male rats
1,650 mg/kg ip female rats
Ibogaine 82 mg/kg2 ip guinea pig
145 mg/kg2 ip rat
LSD 46 mg/Kg iv mice 0.25 mg o 9200
16.5 mg/Kg iv rats 3300
.3 mg/Kg iv rabbits 60
Nicotine 230 mg/Kg o mice
9.5 mg/Kg ip mice .7mg(smoked) 675
.3 mg/Kg iv mice 21
Psilocybin 285 mg/Kg iv mice 12-20 mg o 1187 - 712
280 mg/Kg iv rats 1166 - 700
12.5 mg/Kg iv rabbit 52 - 31
THC 1270 mg/Kg o rats(male) 20mg o 3175
730 mg/Kg o rats(female) 20mg o 1825
105.7 mg/Kg iv rats 5mg(smoked) 1057
42 mg/Kg (inhalation) rats 5mg(smoked) 420
Aspirin 1100 mg/Kg o mice 325mg o 169
1500 mg/Kg o rats 230
Acetaminophen 338 mg/Kg o mice 500mg o 33.8
500 mg/Kg ip mice 50
Vitamin A 2570 mg/Kg o mice 10-20mg o 12850 - 6425
1510 mg/Kg ip mice 7550 - 3775
Strychnine .96 mg/Kg iv rats .25mg o 192
(relative to 1 hit of LSD)
Succinyl Choline .45 mg/Kg iv mice
VX (nerve gas) .0154 mg/Kg iv rabbits 0 mg none
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Old 06-20-2002, 10:25 AM   #10
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Enjoy the science bargle above, and remember, kids, LSD is safer than Tylenol. Yum yum yum!
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Old 06-20-2002, 10:37 AM   #11
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Don´t take them and be a smart guy!
If you wont to live and have a good life so don´t take drugs...

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Old 06-20-2002, 10:40 AM   #12
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Don´t take them and be a smart guy!
If you wont to live and have a good life so don´t take drugs...

"Don´t use drugs, get high on hugs!"


Golly gee,
I wanna hug a tree,
And put on my tie-dye.
And kill all you hippies
with a hail of lead,
in a joyous drive-by.
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Old 06-20-2002, 11:53 AM   #13
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only users lose drugs~!
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Old 06-20-2002, 11:58 AM   #14
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Old 06-20-2002, 12:07 PM   #15
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How is "Succinyl Choline" on there? Thats used to kill because its hard to detect in Autopsies, it has to be searched for specifically.

Its also used to kill horses.

Its a muscle relaxer but much too strong for humans, it targets the heart, and when that muscle relaxes, its hard to continue, and again its also very hard to find, i believe it has some base with saline, because it is disolved very quickly, and cannot be traced unless searched for.

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Old 06-20-2002, 12:12 PM   #16
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they should put cocain back in cola
LOL

I can tell you from personal experience that drugs of ANY form used on a regular basis...WILL destroy your life. There's no way around it...trust me. It's best just not to even start.

7 months sober for me! Woo hoo!
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Old 06-20-2002, 12:14 PM   #17
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word its a plant

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Old 06-20-2002, 12:23 PM   #18
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fyi peyote is not a drug - its a plant
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fyi peyote is not a drug - its a plant
Peyote is a flower that grows on Cacti (cactus). 'Sides a lotta plants are also drugs: Marijuana, Opium, etc.
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Old 06-20-2002, 12:35 PM   #21
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Old 06-20-2002, 12:39 PM   #22
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Peyote is a flower that grows on Cacti (cactus). 'Sides a lotta plants are also drugs: Marijuana, Opium, etc.
peyote is not a flower - it's a cactus (Lophophora williamsii )
Native americans call it peyote
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Old 06-20-2002, 12:41 PM   #23
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Drugs are just like booze...when used properly, there's no problem, from grass to smack. Here's a nice heroin arguement for ya...did you know that, if legal, the manufacturing and distribution costs for heroin are the same as asprin? No junkie is gonna beat your granny for her social security, or rob a 7-11, or bother with a dirty needle to get his fix, if the fix is $0.79 at the aforementioned 7-11. "Oh, but Squishy, if smack was legal, think how many more people would be doing it!" Bullshit, I cry! It's not like you can't find it now with a little effort, and if it was made properly, and not cut with whatever cleaning products are laying around, it's a safe, but highly addictive drug. I'm smoking a government regulated, highly addictive, and even more unhealthy drug right now. It's called a Marlboro.
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yeah but heroine is very addictive and you need more of it with every dose, cause your body adapts to it and small doses (which you were doing frim the start) dont work anymore - so you need more, more, more - untill you hit a dose big enough to finish you off
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No one chooses to die, unless they choose to die. Your average junkie will get started and enjoy his drugs for quite a while, then want to kick, or not, and can lead productive, useful lives all the way through it. I've got no problem with that. They OD because the do not know what they are getting when they buy an unregulated, black market substance. It's like bathtub gin during prohabition...are you getting proberly made booze, or are you getting paint thinner with a juniper scent that'll make you blind within an hour? It's just a new prohabition, causing more problems than it solves.
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Drugs may be bad. The Drug War is worse...exponentionaly.


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"The figures for cannabis use among the general population reveal the same pictures. The Netherlands does not differ greatly from other European countries. In contrast, a comparison with the US shows a striking difference in this area: 32.9% of Americans aged 12 and above have experience with cannabis and 5.1% have used in the past month. These figures are twice as high as those in the Netherlands."

Source: Netherlands Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport, Drug Policy in the Netherlands: Progress Report September 1997-September 1999, (The Hague: Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport, November 1999), pp. 7-8.


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The international illicit drug business generates as much as $400 billion in trade annually according to the United Nations International Drug Control Program. That amounts to 8% of all international trade and is comparable to the annual turnover in textiles, according to the study.

Source: United Nations Office for Drug Control and Crime Prevention, Economic and Social Consequences of Drug Abuse and Illicit Trafficking (New York, NY: UNODCCP, 1998), p. 3.
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According to the United Nations, profits in illegal drugs are so inflated, that three-quarters of all drug shipments would have to be intercepted to seriously reduce the profitability of the business. Current efforts only intercept 13% of heroin shipments and 28%-40%* of cocaine shipments. (*At most; the UN Office for Drug Control and Crime Prevention notes that estimates of production and total supply are probably understated by reporting governments.)

Source: United Nations Office for Drug Control and Crime Prevention, Global Illicit Drug Trends 1999 (New York, NY: UNODCCP, 1999), p. 51.


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In January 2001, the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University published an analysis of costs to states from tobacco, alcohol and other drug addiction. According to the report, "States spent $29.8 billion in 1998 for adult corrections including incarceration, probation and parole. Eighty-one percent of this amount ($24.1 billion) was spent on substance-involved offenders. Of the $24.1 billion, $21.4 billion went to run and build prisons to house substance-involved offenders, $1.1 billion for parole and $695 million for probation for substance-involved offenders. An additional $899 million was spent on state aid to localities for substance-involved offenders (Figure 3.A)"

Source: National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University, Shoveling Up: The Impact of Substance Abuse on State Budgets (New York, NY: CASA, Jan. 2001), p. 15.


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A study by the RAND Corporation found that every additional dollar invested in substance abuse treatment saves taxpayers $7.46 in societal costs.

Source: Rydell, C.P. & Everingham, S.S., Controlling Cocaine, Prepared for the Office of National Drug Control Policy and the United States Army (Santa Monica, CA: Drug Policy Research Center, RAND Corporation, 1994), p. xvi

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In 1993, 98% of Bolivia's foreign exchange earnings from goods and services came from the coca market.

Source: US Congress, Office of Technology Assessment, Alternative Coca Reduction Strategies in the Andean Region, F-556 (Washington DC: US Government Printing Office, July 1993).
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The thing that youngsters, folks in recovery, and those who abstain from drugs on their own for whatever reason need to respect is that some people can experiment with drugs their whole lives - dabbling in this and that tying one on now and then - without serious issue and guess what ... that's ok too.

Sometimes folks just want to be a little left of center just because it feels good or at least feels more interesting in socail situations. Shit, I like to wake-and-bake and then take a five-mile run in the morning. Then again, I'm fucking whacked.
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Drugs may be bad. The Drug War is worse...exponentionaly.
That is a fact
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If everyone smoked pot, there would be no wars.

Studies have shown that most illegal drugs are not harmful if used in moderation.

Cocaine actually increases concentration, reaction, and awareness. There are no known side effects if used in moderation.

Marijuana has no known ill side effects even in heavy users.


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