Blaming Ccbill for shity convesion results ? take a look here

[elron]

This is a recent virginz.net movies FHG conversion results with ccbill :



So next time before you blame ccbill for zero sales , just know it's the paysite , not the billing company

[Greg MissionD]

You might need a little more black out as those numbers are visable that your trying to cover

[spacedog]

CCBill counts all clicks, so if a surfer clicks out of FHg into paysite 5 times this counts as 5 clicks, therefore the ratio #s are not based on uniques..



& yes, you are correct that it is not the billing company.

However, with CCbill paysites, the ccbill redirect linking code, you do lose out on sales on ALL nocookie surfers which accounts for a high percentage.

[ronad10]

not bad, but learn to use paint better next time

[seven]

Originally Posted by elron

This is a recent virginz.net movies FHG conversion results with ccbill :



So next time before you blame ccbill for zero sales , just know it's the paysite , not the billing company

even thou u r an idiot just trying increase postcount i'll have to agree with you here lol

[Greg MissionD]

Originally Posted by elron

This is a recent virginz.net movies FHG conversion results with ccbill :



So next time before you blame ccbill for zero sales , just know it's the paysite , not the billing company

[elron]

Originally Posted by spacedog

CCBill counts all clicks, so if a surfer clicks out of FHg into paysite 5 times this counts as 5 clicks, therefore the ratio #s are not based on uniques..

That's right , unlike many other sponsors that counts unqiue from the entire program , which means that techinally if affiliate1 sent 10 surfers to their program they will show 10 uniques send , and then if affilate2 send the same 10 surfers to the same program , he willl see 0 uniques , 10 raws .
This is mostly done to lower the "hit" field so the conversion will look higher , since they base it on sales/uniques .

Originally Posted by spacedog

& yes, you are correct that it is not the billing company.

However, with CCbill paysites, the ccbill redirect linking code, you do lose out on sales on ALL nocookie surfers which accounts for a high percentage.

nocookie traffic is worthless anyways , most billing companies require cookies enabled in order to process .

[seven]

Originally Posted by elron

That's right , unlike many other sponsors that counts unqiue from the entire program , which means that techinally if affiliate1 sent 10 surfers to their program they will show 10 uniques send , and then if affilate2 send the same 10 surfers to the same program , he willl see 0 uniques , 10 raws . This is mostly done to lower the "hit" field so the conversion will look higher , since they base it on sales/uniques . .

or otherwise same 10 hits bookmarking/keep coming back/exiting with back buttons then forwarding 100 times each would show 1000 hits from that affiliate so unique is the best way to show hits actually.

Originally Posted by elron

nocookie traffic is worthless anyways , most billing companies require cookies enabled in order to process .

no cookie traffic worthless? u a noob? got any idea how many signups no-cookie traffic can generate? billing companies are good for billing not writing scripts.. they offer the free tracking for newbies and small webmasters who just need to get started otherwise, it's a paysite owner's resposibility to make sure all hits are accounted for ie. his affiliates get credit for all their traffic.. cookie or no-cookie and that would mean they pay to buy a script custom or readymade or use NATS etc.

[elron]

Originally Posted by seven

or otherwise same 10 hits bookmarking/keep coming back/exiting with back buttons then forwarding 100 times each would show 1000 hits from that affiliate so unique is the best way to show hits actually.

Yeah but normal surfers wont keep entering and existing the sponsor 100 times unless it's some cheaters , so whatever you've just said is irrelevant .

[andrej_NDC]

Originally Posted by spacedog

However, with CCbill paysites, the ccbill redirect linking code, you do lose out on sales on ALL nocookie surfers which accounts for a high percentage.

Not true, ccbill is using the cookie and IP method. Not sure how often I said it already, yet, people still think ccbill use only cookies.

[butterflybucks]

We do just fine with CCBill!

[Wiggles]

i always wondered why people blame ccbill, its not like they are diverting your traffic.

[seven]

Originally Posted by elron

Yeah but normal surfers wont keep entering and existing the sponsor 100 times unless it's some cheaters , so whatever you've just said is irrelevant.

welcome to the adult world noob.. normal surfers do that all the time whether you like it or not.. it's a hard decision to make for many to spend 30 bucks/month on any adult site

[elron]

Originally Posted by seven

welcome to the adult world noob.. normal surfers do that all the time whether you like it or not.. it's a hard decision to make for many to spend 30 bucks/month on any adult site

if they hit back it's from the billing company form to the paysite join page or welcome page , not to the tgp that refered him you ignorant dumb

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

CCBill Rocks

[nico-t]

never had a problem with ccbill

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

cookie

Now I am hungry

[seven]

Originally Posted by elron

if they hit back it's from the billing company form to the paysite join page or welcome page , not to the tgp that refered him you ignorant dumb

You fucking newbie 50 signups/year maker fucktard. learn the biz first before you open your mouth and keep embarassing yourself idiot and oh! ya know tgp is not the only place where people send their traffic from

[Digipimp]

so you post a small sample and the overall conversion rate is over 1:1100 and we should be excited?

[Violetta]

Originally Posted by LOL :D

CCBill Rocks

agree!!!