What good will a cease-fire do?

[Sly]

The world has been all upset because its taken so long for the various nations to agree and create a resolution. Now there is a resolution coming down the pipe and it calls for a cease-fire. Who really think Israel or Hezbollah is going to suddenly step back and say "ooo, the rest of the world says we should stop, let's go hug!"?

If UN Resolutions were actually regularly followed, Hezbollah never would have had weapons to begin with.

Yappo.

[elron]

cease fire will actually give a chance for the terrorists to get new rocket shipments from iran . then they will hit israel again when they recover .
if anyone believes that anything positive will happen from this - he's kinda dreaming .

[seven]

Originally Posted by elron

cease fire will actually give a chance for the terrorists to get new rocket shipments from iran . then they will hit israel again when they recover .
if anyone believes that anything positive will happen from this - he's kinda dreaming .

hezbo already had have rockets for years.. why didn't they hit israel with them before?

[RF_Erick]

Gives the us gov time to invade iran/syria around october just in time for elections.

[elron]

Originally Posted by seven

hezbo already had have rockets for years.. why didn't they hit israel with them before?

they did hit israel with them before . all over the past 10 years with single lunching every time they wanted to escalate .
you better read some facts about that region before comming here and asking embarresing questions .

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by RF_Erick

Gives the us gov time to invade iran/syria around october just in time for elections.

Here have some more

[seven]

Originally Posted by elron

they did hit israel with them before . all over the past 10 years with single lunching every time they wanted to escalate .
you better read some facts about that region before comming here and asking embarresing questions .

i know about their terror attacks in the past but see no mention of rocket attacks.. do you have urls?

and know even more embarassing when you spell embarresing wrong lol

[elron]

Originally Posted by seven

i know about their terror attacks in the past but see no mention of rocket attacks.. do you have urls?

and know even more embarassing when you spell embarresing wrong lol

english is not my main language .
as for your question , i dont have urls , i just remember it from the news .

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by elron

english is not my main language .
as for your question , i dont have urls , i just remember it from the news .

Amazing how you guys NEVER have URL, just memories .....

I remember when I fucked Madonna and Brittany together ...

[he-fox]

Cease fire now won't do anything good. Hell, the shit stirred in the region for many years, war is the only way to stop the terrorists achieve more power and do more harm in the future. Who thinks there is another way has never been in the zone to understand the players or is a plain fool.

[seven]

Originally Posted by he-fox

Cease fire now won't do anything good. Hell, the shit stirred in the region for many years, war is the only way to stop the terrorists achieve more power and do more harm in the future. Who thinks there is another way has never been in the zone to understand the players or is a plain fool.

well if one was on the other side of the jewish fence one would prolly be calling them freedom fighters not terrorists is what i hear ya know..

[KRL]

Next episodes . . .

* Hezbollah launches missles into Tel Aviv

* Israel retaliates with bombs into Damascus, Syria

* Syria joins the war

* Israel informs US they need help

* Full on civil war begins in Iraq, total chaos ensues

* Iran sends troops into Iraq to support the Shiites

* US begins rapid pullout of US forces in Iraq

* CIA cuts secret deal with Saddam and Sunni's

* CIA sets up escape of Saddam and his henchman

* Saddam and Sunni's take back control of Iraq

* US goes back to supplying Saddam with weapons to attack Iran

* Israel, Britain and US engage a massive surprise strike on Iran's nuclear and command and control centers

* Lebanon's infrastructure is decimated

* CIA funds a Coup in Syria, Assad is taken out

* Iran panics and launches chemical WMD's into Tel Aviv

* Israel retaliates with a nuclear attack into Tehran

* CIA and Saudi Arabia fund pro-western dissidents to engage a civil war in Iran

* Iran goes into total turmoil and the hardliners are overthrown


God Bless America

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by elron

cease fire will actually give a chance for the terrorists to get new rocket shipments from iran . then they will hit israel again when they recover .
if anyone believes that anything positive will happen from this - he's kinda dreaming .

Exactly. Allows the Muslims to get a few more little pretty ineffectual rockets. While the Israelis have one of the biggest arsenals in the world and one of the most technically advanced. So what's the point of a ceasefire?

Allows the innocent people caught in the middle to get out of harms way, something neither side wants.

This war is all about killing innocent people on both sides and a cease fire would screw that up.

[seven]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This war is all about killing innocent people on both sides and a cease fire would screw that up.

lol. sad but true.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Sly

If UN Resolutions were actually regularly followed, Hezbollah never would have had weapons to begin with.

Yappo.

theres a flipside to every story

israel has broken far more resolutions than hezbollah

[elron]

Originally Posted by seven

lol. sad but true.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=641456

[H0witzer]

the midleeast is one big shit hole.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by H0witzer

the midleeast is one big shit hole.

[elron]

Originally Posted by H0witzer

the midleeast is one big shit hole.

Yeah , too bad the shit smell came to manhattan huh

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by elron

Yeah , too bad the shit smell came to manhattan huh

Afghanistan is not in the middle east ...

Another illustration of your ignorance.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Afghanistan is not in the middle east ...

You are wrong as usual
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...tern_countries

I would swear accoding to that page Afghanistan is the first country listed.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

theres a flipside to every story

israel has broken far more resolutions than hezbollah

That was sort of my point. Nobody follows UN Resolutions unless they want to. We don't. I highly doubt either of the parties involved care about a piece of paper saying "let's hug".

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Dvae

You are wrong as usual
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...tern_countries

I would swear accoding to that page Afghanistan is the first country listed.

Sure ... lol ... as usual ...

Is CIA good enough for you, or they are owned by arabs ...

https://www.odci.gov/cia/publication...k/geos/af.html

Geography Afghanistan Top of Page
Location:
Definition Field Listing
Southern Asia, north and west of Pakistan, east of Iran
Geographic coordinates:
Definition Field Listing
33 00 N, 65 00 E
Map references:
Definition Field Listin
Asia

Fucking CIA ... they really are good for nothing ....

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Dvae

You are wrong as usual
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...tern_countries

I would swear accoding to that page Afghanistan is the first country listed.

Have fun with your Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...sian_countries

A

* Afghanistan

C

* People's Republic of China

K

* Kazakhstan


K cont.

* Kyrgyzstan

M

* Mongolia

R

* Russia

T

* Tajikistan


T cont.

* Turkmenistan

U

* UUzbekistan

YOU ARE WRONG, AS USUAL ....

[Sly]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Sure ... lol ... as usual ...

Is CIA good enough for you, or they are owned by arabs ...

https://www.odci.gov/cia/publication...k/geos/af.html

Geography Afghanistan Top of Page
Location:
Definition Field Listing
Southern Asia, north and west of Pakistan, east of Iran
Geographic coordinates:
Definition Field Listing
33 00 N, 65 00 E
Map references:
Definition Field Listin
Asia

Fucking CIA ... they really are good for nothing ....

Do you argue with people solely for the sake of argument?

Middle East defines a cultural area, so it does not have precise borders. The most common and highly arbitrary definition includes: Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran (Persia), Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, the United Arab Emirates, Yemen, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

Iran (Persia) is often the eastern border, but Afghanistan and Pakistan are occasionally included due to their close relationship (ethnically and religiously) to the larger group of Iranian peoples as well as historical connections to the Middle East including being part of the various empires that have spanned the region such as those of the Persians and Arabs among others. Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and western Pakistan (Balochistan and North West Frontier Province) share close cultural, linguistic, and historical ties with Iran and are also part of the Iranian plateau, whereas Iran's relationship with Arab states is based more upon religion and geographic proximity. Also the Kurds, another group of Iranic linguistic extraction, are the largest ethnic group in the Middle East without their own state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East

Next you're going to tell us Wikipedia is controlled by the CIA. I've read this thread 3 times and can't even figure out why the argument of whether or not Afghanistan is a Middle Eastern country has even come into play.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Sly

I've read this thread 3 times and can't even figure out why the argument of whether or not Afghanistan is a Middle Eastern country has even come into play.

So read it a fourth time ....

Originally Posted by H0witzer

the midleeast is one big shit hole.

Originally Posted by elron

Yeah , too bad the shit smell came to manhattan huh

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Afghanistan is not in the middle east ...

Another illustration of your ignorance.

Now, do you get it .. you know, the 9/11 excuse ... Manhattan ... capiche ?


As for Afghanistan, it is in SOUTHER ASIA, with all it's other little " ...stan " friends ( Kurdistan,Kazakhstan,Kyrgyzstan, and so on )...

All those are ex-soviet territory ... you remember, in Rambo 3 , it took place in Afghanistan against the soviets, backed by the CIA ... They should know were the fuck that country is ...

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Sly

Next you're going to tell us Wikipedia is controlled by the CIA.

BTW, did you know anybody can edit Wikipedia ( not true for the CIA ite ... ):

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...&a ction=edit


Knock yourself off, add Canada to the Middle East ...

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Sly

Do you argue with people solely for the sake of argument?

ROLF ...

You are the one with the " States " argument, stretching it to the point that anything and everything was a state , including a University ..



http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=641346

I argue with facts, you re-write them ... typical of an American.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

So read it a fourth time ....

As for Afghanistan, it is in SOUTHER ASIA, with all it's other little " ...stan " friends ( Kurdistan,Kazakhstan,Kyrgyzstan,

and don't forget PAKISTAN.
Or is that also southern Asia?

[OG LennyT]

Originally Posted by Sly

The world has been all upset because its taken so long for the various nations to agree and create a resolution. Now there is a resolution coming down the pipe and it calls for a cease-fire. Who really think Israel or Hezbollah is going to suddenly step back and say "ooo, the rest of the world says we should stop, let's go hug!"?

If UN Resolutions were actually regularly followed, Hezbollah never would have had weapons to begin with.

Yappo.

exactly.. the UN is a joke, always has been

Coffee Anon is a joke

Candolisa Rice is a joke

I say let em fight - may the better man win

[Sly]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

So read it a fourth time ....







Now, do you get it .. you know, the 9/11 excuse ... Manhattan ... capiche ?


As for Afghanistan, it is in SOUTHER ASIA, with all it's other little " ...stan " friends ( Kurdistan,Kazakhstan,Kyrgyzstan, and so on )...

All those are ex-soviet territory ... you remember, in Rambo 3 , it took place in Afghanistan against the soviets, backed by the CIA ... They should know were the fuck that country is ...

You are hilarious. You make arguments against your own "proof" constantly. You did it in this very thread.

You used Wikipedia to prove Afghanistan is in Asia. Which nobody is disputing. Then I also showed you Wikipedia also states that many consider Afghanistan to be a Middle Eastern country due to cultural similarities, in which it also states that the Middle East isn't a specific territorial region, but more of a general guideline based on cultural similarities... you follow that up by trying to discredit Wikipedia after you just used it for your own proof. LOL.

Then the comment on Manhattan, YOU brought up Afghanistan. Afghanistan didn't attack New York City and nobody thinks they did. The comment was referring to radical Middle Eastern Muslim groups attacking New York City.

I'm going to guess that French is your first language. Your reading comprehension of English isn't the greatest, I'll cut you some slack.

[KRL]

Originally Posted by H0witzer

the midleeast is one big shit hole.

This is very true, however that shit hole happens to rest on top of the world's largest oil reserves worth trillions of dollars.

If oil wasn't involved, no one would give a fuck, just like Africa.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Sly

The world has been all upset because its taken so long for the various nations to agree and create a resolution. Now there is a resolution coming down the pipe and it calls for a cease-fire. Who really think Israel or Hezbollah is going to suddenly step back and say "ooo, the rest of the world says we should stop, let's go hug!"?

If UN Resolutions were actually regularly followed, Hezbollah never would have had weapons to begin with.

Yappo.

save up bullets for the next time

[E$_manager]

Israel or Hezbollah must "step back and say "ooo, the rest of the world says we should stop, let's go hug!" the best way to arrange things.
But the problem is that it is not that easy.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Sly

You are hilarious. You make arguments against your own "proof" constantly. You did it in this very thread.

You used Wikipedia to prove Afghanistan is in Asia.

No, I didn't ... I used the CIA site to point out that afghanistan is in Southern Asia ... since someone used Wikipedia to challenge my statement .

Then, to show you how unreliable Wikipedia is, I showed you another page listing the same Afghanistan in ASia ...

You really have difficulty assimilating a logical presentation, don't you ...

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Sly

You used Wikipedia to prove Afghanistan is in Asia. Which nobody is disputing.

again, you are wrong ...

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Afghanistan is not in the middle east ...

Another illustration of your ignorance.

Originally Posted by Dvae

You are wrong as usual
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...tern_countries

I would swear accoding to that page Afghanistan is the first country listed.

Dvae was disputing that fact ....

Anything else you have problems comprehending ?

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by Sly

The world has been all upset because its taken so long for the various nations to agree and create a resolution. Now there is a resolution coming down the pipe and it calls for a cease-fire. Who really think Israel or Hezbollah is going to suddenly step back and say "ooo, the rest of the world says we should stop, let's go hug!"?

If UN Resolutions were actually regularly followed, Hezbollah never would have had weapons to begin with.

Yappo.

There was posted on New York Times some good article how to try to solve this situation by : THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN (he is Jew and he was living in Lebanon during civil war, so he knows situation there more then 100% of GFYers)

Here is repost:

DAMASCUS, Syria - One wonders what planet Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice landed from, thinking she can build an international force to take charge in south Lebanon without going to Damascus and trying to bring the Syrians on board.
Two Syrian officials made no bones about it when I asked their reaction to deploying such a force, without Syrian backing: Do you remember what happened in 1983, each asked, when the Reagan administration tried to impose an Israeli-designed treaty on Lebanon against Syria's will?


I was there, I remember quite well: Hezbollah, no doubt backed by Syria or Iran, debuted its skills for the world by blowing up the U.S. Embassy in Beirut and the U.S. Marine and French peacekeeping battalions. This is not a knitting circle here.

Can we get the Syrians on board? Can we split Damascus from Tehran? My conversations here suggest it would be very hard, but worth a shot. It is the most important strategic play we could make, because Syria is the bridge between Iran and Hezbollah. But it would take a high-level, rational dialogue. Dr. Rice says we can deal with Syria through normal diplomatic channels. Really?

We've withdrawn our ambassador from Damascus, and the U.S. diplomats left here are allowed to meet only the Foreign Ministry's director of protocol, whose main job is to ask how you like your Turkish coffee. Syria's ambassador in Washington is similarly isolated.

Is this Syrian regime brutal and ruthless? You bet it is. If the Bush team wants to go to war with Syria, I get that. But the U.S. boycott of Syria is not intimidating Damascus. (Its economy is still growing, thanks to high oil prices.) So we're left with the worst of all worlds -- a hostile Syria that is not afraid of us.

We need to get real on Lebanon. Hezbollah made a reckless mistake in provoking Israel. Shame on Hezbollah for bringing this disaster upon Lebanon by embedding its ''heroic'' forces amid civilians. I understand Israel's vital need to degrade Hezbollah's rocket network. But Hezbollah's militia, which represents 40 percent of Lebanon, the Shiites, can't be wiped out at a price that Israel, or America's Arab allies, can sustain -- if at all.

You can't go into an office in the Arab world today without finding an Arab TV station featuring the daily carnage in Lebanon. It's now the Muzak of the Arab world, and it is toxic for us and our Arab friends.

Despite Hezbollah's bravado, Israel has hurt it and its supporters badly, in a way they will never forget. Point made. It is now time to wind down this war and pull together a deal -- a cease-fire, a prisoner exchange, a resumption of the peace effort and an international force to help the Lebanese Army secure the border with Israel -- before things spin out of control. Whoever goes for a knockout blow will knock themselves out instead.

Will Syria play? Syrians will tell you that their alliance with Tehran is ''a marriage of convenience.'' Syria is a largely secular country, with a Sunni majority. Its leadership is not comfortable with Iranian Shiite ayatollahs. The Iranians know that, which is why ''they keep sending high officials here every few weeks to check on the relationship,'' a diplomat said.

So uncomfortable are many Syrian Sunnis with the Iran relationship that President Bashar al-Assad has had to allow a surge of Sunni religiosity; last April, a bigger public display was made of Muhammad's birthday than the Syrian Baath Party's anniversary, which had never happened before.

Syrian officials stress that they formed their alliance with Iran because they felt they had no other option. One top Syrian official said the door with the U.S. was ''not closed from Damascus. [But] when you have only one friend, you stay with him all the time. When you have 10 friends, you stay with each one of them.''

What do the Syrians want? They say: respect for their security interests in Lebanon and a resumption of negotiations over the Golan. Syria is also providing support for the Sunni Baathists in Iraq. Much as the Bush team wants to, it can't fight everyone at once and get where it needs to go. There will not be a peace force in south Lebanon unless it's backed by Syria. No one will send troops.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Sly

Afghanistan didn't attack New York City and nobody thinks they did. T

If so, how come the USA bombed Afghanistan ...

You guys really forgot Bin Laden .... or just pretend to have done so ...

With that logic, please explain why is Israel bombing Lebanon ... Lebanon didn't attack Israel ...

Let the spinning begin ...

BTW, I have no problem with the English language ... not like you.

[OG LennyT]

Originally Posted by KRL

If oil wasn't involved, no one would give a fuck, just like Africa.

so so true.. worse shits been happening over there for years and (besides hippy celebrities) we dont give a fuck

[reynold]

Originally Posted by KRL

Next episodes . . .

* Hezbollah launches missles into Tel Aviv

* Israel retaliates with bombs into Damascus, Syria

* Syria joins the war

* Israel informs US they need help

* Full on civil war begins in Iraq, total chaos ensues

* Iran sends troops into Iraq to support the Shiites

* US begins rapid pullout of US forces in Iraq

* CIA cuts secret deal with Saddam and Sunni's

* CIA sets up escape of Saddam and his henchman

* Saddam and Sunni's take back control of Iraq

* US goes back to supplying Saddam with weapons to attack Iran

* Israel, Britain and US engage a massive surprise strike on Iran's nuclear and command and control centers

* Lebanon's infrastructure is decimated

* CIA funds a Coup in Syria, Assad is taken out

* Iran panics and launches chemical WMD's into Tel Aviv

* Israel retaliates with a nuclear attack into Tehran

* CIA and Saudi Arabia fund pro-western dissidents to engage a civil war in Iran

* Iran goes into total turmoil and the hardliners are overthrown


God Bless America

How did you get all these classified CIA info?

[Storm_Tracker]

Originally Posted by KRL

Next episodes . . .

* Hezbollah launches missles into Tel Aviv

* Israel retaliates with bombs into Damascus, Syria

* Syria joins the war

* Israel informs US they need help

* Full on civil war begins in Iraq, total chaos ensues

* Iran sends troops into Iraq to support the Shiites

* US begins rapid pullout of US forces in Iraq

* CIA cuts secret deal with Saddam and Sunni's

* CIA sets up escape of Saddam and his henchman

* Saddam and Sunni's take back control of Iraq

* US goes back to supplying Saddam with weapons to attack Iran

* Israel, Britain and US engage a massive surprise strike on Iran's nuclear and command and control centers

* Lebanon's infrastructure is decimated

* CIA funds a Coup in Syria, Assad is taken out

* Iran panics and launches chemical WMD's into Tel Aviv

* Israel retaliates with a nuclear attack into Tehran

* CIA and Saudi Arabia fund pro-western dissidents to engage a civil war in Iran

* Iran goes into total turmoil and the hardliners are overthrown


God Bless America

Amazing predictions .... you know it just might end up like this....

you forgot china, Russia and North Korea .... if and when Israel nukes
Iran ... North Korea will launch its Nuclear Weapons and then we are all fucked

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Sly

If UN Resolutions were actually regularly followed, Hezbollah never would have had weapons to begin with.

And Israel wouldn't have occupied Lebanon for 18 years...

[seven]

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

And Israel wouldn't have occupied Lebanon for 18 years...

what he said

[Paul]

Originally Posted by KRL

Next episodes . . .

* Hezbollah launches missles into Tel Aviv

* Israel retaliates with bombs into Damascus, Syria

* Syria joins the war

* Israel informs US they need help

* Full on civil war begins in Iraq, total chaos ensues

* Iran sends troops into Iraq to support the Shiites

* US begins rapid pullout of US forces in Iraq

* CIA cuts secret deal with Saddam and Sunni's

* CIA sets up escape of Saddam and his henchman

* Saddam and Sunni's take back control of Iraq

* US goes back to supplying Saddam with weapons to attack Iran

* Israel, Britain and US engage a massive surprise strike on Iran's nuclear and command and control centers

* Lebanon's infrastructure is decimated

* CIA funds a Coup in Syria, Assad is taken out

* Iran panics and launches chemical WMD's into Tel Aviv

* Israel retaliates with a nuclear attack into Tehran

* CIA and Saudi Arabia fund pro-western dissidents to engage a civil war in Iran

* Iran goes into total turmoil and the hardliners are overthrown


God Bless America

Its scary how close to the truth you may be on this one

Originally Posted by Storm_Tracker

if and when Israel nukes
Iran ... North Korea will launch its Nuclear Weapons and then we are all fucked

Why would North Korea get involved ? Are they allies of Iran ?

I thought their nuclear program was just going to be used to backmail other countries into giving them more aid