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minusonebit 08-04-2006 10:53 AM

These companies dont pay enough money, that why Americans arent going to fill those positions. So you are implying that we should let them come here just because they supposedly arent hurting anything? WRONG! This country has laws and they apply to everyone. If the illegals dont have to follow the laws, then neither do I. Illegals should not be allowed to come here illegally to fill positions because companies want to pay peanuts.

The problem with America can be summed up in a single sentance: Everyone in America wants a $25 an hour job, but no one wants to pay for the products or services produced by the other guy's $25 an hour a job.

escorpio 08-04-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit
These companies dont pay enough money, that why Americans arent going to fill those positions.

There is more to it than that. Let me explain farming and the role of the migrant worker...

Farms are mostly located in sparsely populated rural areas. Because of the nature of farming, there are certain times of year when much labor is needed and other times when it is not. When it is needed (e.g. harvest) is when migrant workers come to the area, do what work is needed and then move on. There is not enough work to support full time employees and therefore people can not move to the area and sustain themselves. That's why Americans won't work the fields. They don't want to travel hundreds of miles for a temporary job and they can't permanantly relocate to an area where there isn't full time work.

pornguy 08-04-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
Where are the American workers that these illegals were putting out of work? Don't they want to work the fields?


Sure they want to work the fields, but 2$ an hour is not enough. Anyway. they are on a coffee, and cig break. they should be back in about an hour.

GatorB 08-04-2006 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
There is more to it than that. Let me explain farming and the role of the migrant worker...

Farms are mostly located in sparsely populated rural areas. Because of the nature of farming, there are certain times of year when much labor is needed and other times when it is not. When it is needed (e.g. harvest) is when migrant workers come to the area, do what work is needed and then move on. There is not enough work to support full time employees and therefore people can not move to the area and sustain themselves. That's why Americans won't work the fields. They don't want to travel hundreds of miles for a temporary job and they can't permanantly relocate to an area where there isn't full time work.

So what you are implying is that ALL migrant farm workers are illegal. I beg to differ.

dynastoned 08-04-2006 11:45 AM

i find that hard to believe.. every morning i go to get some coffee i see a crowd of 50+ illegals looking for work.

OG LennyT 08-04-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief
I love reading rants from ignorant, brainwashed fools who have no argument.

I wasnt ranting or arguing, just stating a pleasant observation.

Hitting too close to home? :)

Drake 08-04-2006 12:38 PM

Let those farmers go under. They're obviously not doing something right. There are other States producing those crops and they aren't having problems.

escorpio 08-04-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
So what you are implying is that ALL migrant farm workers are illegal. I beg to differ.

Of course not "ALL" are illegal, but many are. Nowhere did I imply an absolute like "ALL."

Mr. Soul 08-04-2006 12:46 PM

Oh damn, poor farmers, they're going to have to start paying reasonable wages to get people to work their asses off. That's horrible! They should just be able to keep slaves.

Moose 08-04-2006 12:50 PM

This has nothing to do with tightened borders,more are coming in more now than ever in the last few years. Everything to do with them moving into better paying jobs in the restaurant and construction and other better paying easier to work fields. Why would they sit out in the sun picking berries for pennies when they can get better jobs elswhere now with the abundance of fake documents and employers turning a blind eye to it.

escorpio 08-04-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Soul
Oh damn, poor farmers, they're going to have to start paying reasonable wages to get people to work their asses off. That's horrible! They should just be able to keep slaves.

There are more reasons farmers have difficulty getting help than just wages.

BusterBunny 08-04-2006 12:52 PM

:disgust :disgust

Phil 08-04-2006 01:24 PM

get blacks to work there... eeeee, right...

notabook 08-04-2006 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT
get blacks to work there... eeeee, right...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Nice one. Black + Work = :error


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