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spacedog 08-04-2006 08:17 AM

some people need to fucking wake up,,, ALOT of programs only pay $25 pps.,.,


some even less.. ddg pays $20, perfectodollars only pays $20, pimproll only $25, ARS $15 on their $1 CF trials, etc, etc....


And, BigBimpBucks.. what about blingpimp??? Do I now need to sign up to the new version?

SomeCreep 08-04-2006 09:04 AM

Whether or not $25 PPS is good, depends on the sponsor. I promote some recurring sponsors where I only average average $8 - $20 per member, so $25 PPS would be great. I have other revshare sponsors where I average $40+ per member so $25 PPS would definitely not be the better option.

seven 08-04-2006 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coatsy
Most PPS programs pay $30/35 and they pay you that for a $2.99 trial signup, its much much easier to convert a trial than a $34.95 signup.

ABSOFUCKINLUTELY. If your trial (taking the first month as trial) is $34.95 I wouldn't promote you for any less than $52 PPS taking your average retention is atleast 3 months and 50% of 3 x 34.95 = $52.42

Also now that i checked I see you are using CCBill redirect linking codes meaning there'll be many lost sales for me cos of no cookie surfers, no ip matches etc.

Bottomline I wouldn't promote you unless you used a custom script or NATS and dropped your trial to $2.99 :2 cents:

Btw, I am NOT a member of NN or whatever team, don't even know who they are so please don't try to say i am one of them too. Thanks.

BigPimpCash 08-04-2006 09:24 AM

Thanks...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
some people need to fucking wake up,,, ALOT of programs only pay $25 pps.,.,


some even less.. ddg pays $20, perfectodollars only pays $20, pimproll only $25, ARS $15 on their $1 CF trials, etc, etc....


And, BigBimpBucks.. what about blingpimp??? Do I now need to sign up to the new version?

Hi SpaceDog... alas yes you will have to sign up again... the only site this effects is ChloeLove... the other sites NaomiTeen and GirlieKissing are still on BlingPimps...

And it's not BigPimpBucks... it's BigPimpCash :)

Thanks for the support about the $25... most people have been supportive (about 98%) but appears some people will find fault in everything... I think in general the opinion is it may not be the best, but it aint worth causing drama over it, so lets move on and do some business ah ? :thumbsup

SomeCreep 08-04-2006 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coatsy
Where is this coming from ? Mike didn't flame you. He simply mentioned the facts that you left out in your first post. If you had of mentioned that your paying out $25 on a $35 recurring charge you would not have gotten the same responses in this thread because its just not a good deal for the affiliate. (Don't believe me ? Then create this thread again with all the facts and compare both threads)

Most PPS programs pay $30/35 and they pay you that for a $2.99 trial signup, its much much easier to convert a trial than a $34.95 signup.

Lol, I didnt see that either. Offering $25 PPS for a $34.95/month membership is ridiculous. I would not promote a program that did that.

Maybe the guy is new though and doesnt know what to charge for a paysite membership and has no clue as to what to expect recurring wise. Not everyone is meant to run a paysite and this guy seems like one of those types of people.

BigPimpCash 08-04-2006 09:46 AM

Fair Comment...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep
Lol, I didnt see that either. Offering $25 PPS for a $34.95/month membership is ridiculous. I would not promote a program that did that.

Maybe the guy is new though and doesnt know what to charge for a paysite membership and has no clue as to what to expect recurring wise. Not everyone is meant to run a paysite and this guy seems like one of those types of people.

Fair comment SomeCreep but a lot of people have decided to sign up... some are already sendign decent traffic and good sales... someone summed it up on another board... A fast nickel beats a slow dime any day...

As people have pointed out, I have no pop ups, no consoles, no traffic leaks, no cross sales... so as a small programme makign sure they get it right I think I am spot on... but you are obviously entitled to your opinion and decision not to promote us...

seven 08-04-2006 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPimpCash
Thanks for the support about the $25... most people have been supportive (about 98%) but appears some people will find fault in everything... I think in general the opinion is it may not be the best, but it aint worth causing drama over it, so lets move on and do some business ah ? :thumbsup

98% of what? 5 people who've been posting in this thread? lol. I think your proggy is too new/too small to worry about PPS yet just stick with the revshare for now buddy. Ya know if PPS was so easy you'd think every single CCBill site owner out there would be offering it :error

peace.

Linguist 08-04-2006 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPimpCash
Thanks for the support about the $25... most people have been supportive (about 98%) but appears some people will find fault in everything... I think in general the opinion is it may not be the best, but it aint worth causing drama over it, so lets move on and do some business ah ? :thumbsup

I think you need to learn the difference between flaming and honest criticism. Do you really want supportive people telling you what you want to hear? Or honest people telling you like it is?

Before in this thread, I told you that my best program pays $25 per signup. That said, I would not promote you because I KNOW that it will be very hard to get a surfer sign up for $35 a month deal. I also KNOW that if I find such a surfer, I can get at least $40 PPS with some other program. Now, would I promote you? NO.
Do I dislike you? No, I think you're a great guy, but in my opinion the program wouldn't convert to justify $25 payouts.
But I don't wish anything bad upon you, and I hope that I'm wrong, but that's just my opinion.

BigPimpCash 08-04-2006 10:01 AM

Thanks...
 
Thanks Seven... and see I didnt even accuse you of being part of the NN crew...

I hear ya... I will offer it for those that want to run with it, sure there will be some fine tunning... but ah if we all got everything right from day 1 there would be no risk or excitment in what we do... oh and we'd all be stinky rich, alas there is always some trial and error...

Anyways good luck with what ever you do, sure you dont need it, but just showing some love...

BigPimpCash 08-04-2006 10:06 AM

Thanks...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguist
I think you need to learn the difference between flaming and honest criticism. Do you really want supportive people telling you what you want to hear? Or honest people telling you like it is?

Before in this thread, I told you that my best program pays $25 per signup. That said, I would not promote you because I KNOW that it will be very hard to get a surfer sign up for $35 a month deal. I also KNOW that if I find such a surfer, I can get at least $40 PPS with some other program. Now, would I promote you? NO.
Do I dislike you? No, I think you're a great guy, but in my opinion the program wouldn't convert to justify $25 payouts.
But I don't wish anything bad upon you, and I hope that I'm wrong, but that's just my opinion.

Dude nothing bad about what you said... I take what you said as constructive critism :) and I hear what your saying... but this is the best deal I can offer now... if things work out then I will bump it... but I need to make sure it works, so I got a business to promote... :)

Surely thats good business sense, not to run before you can walk ? I could of course could of left the PPS off completely... but thought it was a good idea to include it if I could, so people who do want to run with it can... I got a few guys sellign on the back of the PPS and making some sales... spoke to one of them and he is very happy at the conversions...

I know the big players can offer more, ah maybe one day I will be one of them... but it didnt happen overnight... or even more so from day 1... and more people have commented that my site is 100% clean... none of the usual stuff so called big PPS sites have... but ah we been over that...

So no hard feelings... I totally take what you say as constructive... however the stuff with the other guy is old, I could give you the whole history of it, but then I would just sound all whiney... but trust me I could of offered $100 PPS and he would of found fault with it... I could of called grass green and he would of said I was wrong... long history... but its all gravey... :)

mikeyddddd 08-04-2006 10:07 AM

You know what

rotterdammer 08-04-2006 10:58 AM

You need to re-make your site bro. Build it first and then start to promote :)

I see the following link on the second tour page two:
( http://www.chloelove.com/page2.php )

This url below is not working!!!!!!

http://www.chloelove.com/index.htm

BigPimpCash 08-04-2006 11:46 AM

Thanks Rotter...
 
Hi Dude... that minor tweak is being done... someone made it .htm instead of .php... will be changed... there are a few de bugs taking place... but we are pretty close :) Thanks for the spot though :thumbsup

CaptainHook 08-04-2006 11:57 AM

Our program is new as well, we are offering $25 pps/60% revshare ... i browsed your site and like the design and functionality of your affiliate program. You will do well, just stick to it .... we are shooting original episodes for our sites ... that will help keep conversions at an attractive ratio once we launch .... good luck and keep in touch.

BigPimpCash 08-04-2006 12:48 PM

Thanks Captain...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHook
Our program is new as well, we are offering $25 pps/60% revshare ... i browsed your site and like the design and functionality of your affiliate program. You will do well, just stick to it .... we are shooting original episodes for our sites ... that will help keep conversions at an attractive ratio once we launch .... good luck and keep in touch.

Thanks Captain... I guess I just get emotional about my programme, maybe a bad trait maybe a good one... think the court is out on that :)

Thanks for the props about our site :) Just trying to offer a s much as we can, guess ome just want to concentrate on the negatives, or at least try and find somethign to moan about... thats life I guess... most of my girlfriends have been like that :winkwink:

Anyways good luck with your stuff too... and yeah lets stay in touch, feel free to add me to ICQ... speak soon :)

BigPimpCash 08-08-2006 08:59 AM

A Little Update
 
Just an update... following on from discussion regards our pricing structure... We have decided to cut the initial join price for Chloe Love to $29.95...

This will obviously not effect the $25 PPS price, but does mean the 50% Revshare pays a little less... however on both PPS and Revshare we are paying all billing fee's, so you get a genuine $25 PPS or 50% Revshare.

I believe the $29.95 will help to make the site an easier sale... with the amount of content, it's variety, the bonus sites and the models interaction with the site I am sure it will be a success for everyone involved :)

The recurring charge os $24.95... so hopefully this will also encourage rebills...

We will monitor the sites success, inparticular the PPs which is new for us, if it's as successful as we hope then we will increase the PPS payouts after 3 months...

The new pricing structure is already in place :)


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