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  • summerland
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jun 2006
    • 162
    #1

    Pull OUT or Iraq Now ? ??

    Iraq is not going very well? What do you think? I say yes. Let's go.
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    • RawAlex
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2003
      • 9465
      #2
      What, pull out and cum all over it's face?

      why?

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        • GatorB
          The Demon & 12clicks
          • Oct 2001
          • 18208
          #3
          Well let's face it show me a bush that enjoys a pullout before the job is done?

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            • Mr. Soul
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2005
              • 1633
              #4
              Yes, we absolutely should. We are not doing anything positive there. We should pull out our troops tomorrow, and when the secretarian violence dies down and a legitimate government takes power, we should pay them reparations in the hundreds of billions of dollars for the infrastructure we've destroyed and the devastation we have cause to their economy for the past four years. Obviously trying to installing a US friendly dictator there has not worked and will never work, so what is the point in staying at this point? Right now the neo-cons are just holding on so they can squeeze even more money from the US tax payers.

              The longer we stay there, the more US troops will die, the more Iraqi civilians will die, the more the resistance will become the only option for Iraqi men, the more the ultra-wealthy will rob the middle class Americans, and the more hatred will build towards the US in the middle east and in the rest of the world. There is nothing positive we can achieve by staying in Iraq.

              Just imagine, this entire mess could have been avoided with three bullets. One for Saddam, and one for each of his sons. Exact same result.

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                • Shok
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 5611
                  #5
                  riiiight

                  ok get the ball rolling, I will check back with you and see how you are doing

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                    • Mr. Soul
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 1633
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Shok
                      riiiight

                      ok get the ball rolling, I will check back with you and see how you are doing

                      ??

                      Not familiar with the concept of discussion, I see.

                      Only the government should concern themselves with the major issues our country faces, right? We should just focus on American Idol and baseball.

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                        • Libertine
                          sex dwarf
                          • May 2002
                          • 17860
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                          when the secretarian violence dies down and a legitimate government takes power
                          Ehm, yeah. You do realize that the sectarian violence would not just "die down", right?
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                            • Doctor Dre
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 51692
                              #8
                              I think it would be one of the dumbest move ever. You guys need Iraq to get the middle east. Middle east = Oil = energy crisis = power.

                              If you guys don't make your way through a big war, the country is gonna be bankrupt
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                                • Rochard
                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 75733
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                  Yes, we absolutely should. We are not doing anything positive there. We should pull out our troops tomorrow, and when the secretarian violence dies down and a legitimate government takes power, we should pay them reparations in the hundreds of billions of dollars for the infrastructure we've destroyed and the devastation we have cause to their economy for the past four years. Obviously trying to installing a US friendly dictator there has not worked and will never work, so what is the point in staying at this point? Right now the neo-cons are just holding on so they can squeeze even more money from the US tax payers.

                                  The longer we stay there, the more US troops will die, the more Iraqi civilians will die, the more the resistance will become the only option for Iraqi men, the more the ultra-wealthy will rob the middle class Americans, and the more hatred will build towards the US in the middle east and in the rest of the world. There is nothing positive we can achieve by staying in Iraq.

                                  Just imagine, this entire mess could have been avoided with three bullets. One for Saddam, and one for each of his sons. Exact same result.
                                  OR.... Maybe we should give the new government a bill for the destruction they caused in Kuwait, the billions of dollars in lost profits the Kuwaiti government lost when they destroyed 600 oil wells, the billions of dollars it took to clean up the mess, and a bill for the costs the US picked up going over there to evict Iraq from Kuwait.
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                                    • Mr. Soul
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2005
                                      • 1633
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Libertine
                                      Ehm, yeah. You do realize that the sectarian violence would not just "die down", right?

                                      It would be settled eventually. Right now all we're doing there is fueling the violence. It will never end while we're there. Never.

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                                        • Mr. Soul
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2005
                                          • 1633
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                          OR.... Maybe we should give the new government a bill for the destruction they caused in Kuwait, the billions of dollars in lost profits the Kuwaiti government lost when they destroyed 600 oil wells, the billions of dollars it took to clean up the mess, and a bill for the costs the US picked up going over there to evict Iraq from Kuwait.

                                          Saddam Hussien was our guy, our monster, he was not kept in power by the people or Iraq, he was kept in power by us. We're going to blame the citizens for the actions of a brutal military dictator we supported? I don't see your logic at all.

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                                            • MattK
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2002
                                              • 492
                                              #12
                                              US is not leaving Iraq...read the articles about the new embassy in Baghdad

                                              104 acres, 21 buildings, average height of 7 stories. surrounded by a wall that is 15 feet thick. not high -- 15 feet thick!


                                              http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319798/

                                              Construction cranes loom above the site of the new U.S. Embassy being built in Baghdad. The embassy will sit on 104 acres, six times larger than the United Nations compound in New York and two-thirds the acreage of Washingtonhahaha8217;s National Mall.

                                              BAGHDAD, Iraq - The fortress-like compound rising beside the Tigris River here will be the largest of its kind in the world, the size of Vatican City, with the population of a small town, its own defense force, self-contained power and water, and a precarious perch at the heart of Iraqhahaha8217;s turbulent future.

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                                                • Mr. Soul
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                  • 1633
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by MattK
                                                  US is not leaving Iraq...read the articles about the new embassy in Baghdad

                                                  104 acres, 21 buildings, average height of 7 stories. surrounded by a wall that is 15 feet thick. not high -- 15 feet thick!


                                                  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319798/

                                                  Construction cranes loom above the site of the new U.S. Embassy being built in Baghdad. The embassy will sit on 104 acres, six times larger than the United Nations compound in New York and two-thirds the acreage of Washingtonhahaha8217;s National Mall.

                                                  BAGHDAD, Iraq - The fortress-like compound rising beside the Tigris River here will be the largest of its kind in the world, the size of Vatican City, with the population of a small town, its own defense force, self-contained power and water, and a precarious perch at the heart of Iraqhahaha8217;s turbulent future.


                                                  Wow, I'd way rather pay for that than for health care for poor old widows.

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                                                    • Libertine
                                                      sex dwarf
                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 17860
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                                      It would be settled eventually. Right now all we're doing there is fueling the violence. It will never end while we're there. Never.
                                                      Actually, it wouldn't be settled. The country would break into three pieces - a shia one, a sunni one, and a kurdish one. The shia part would probably ally itself with Iran, perhaps even become a part of Iran. The sunni one would not have oil, and therefore would be dirt poor, fuelling fundamentalism and possibly a war against the shia and kurdish parts. The kurdish one would ally itself with the kurds in Turkey and Iran, which would cause a conflict with (and possibly cause a war with) Turkey.

                                                      In short, it would cause a huge mess, and cost hundreds of thousands of lives.
                                                      /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                                                        • Mr. Soul
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                          • 1633
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Libertine
                                                          In short, it would cause a huge mess, and cost hundreds of thousands of lives.

                                                          As opposed to what it is now? Not a mess, that hasn't cost hundreds of thousands of lives?

                                                          I agree with your assessment of the dangers, but what you described will happen eventually whether we are there or not. The entire post colonial idea of the country of Iraq is falwed, we shouldn't be trying to clean up the mess caused by the British Empire. Obviously we do not have the resources and/or ability to control this country. Right now we have the beginning of what you described, only with our guys stuck in the middle, and our money being flushed down the drain.

                                                          You are obviously well informed, what do you see as the benefit of our troops staying there? What kind of realistic result do you see from a continued occupation?

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                                                            • pornguy
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 62910
                                                              #16
                                                              NO. we can not. We started a war, and took out the government, and now we have to stay until it is rebuilt.

                                                              Fucking idiot bush.
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                                                                • Mr. Soul
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                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                  • 1633
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by pornguy
                                                                  NO. we can not. We started a war, and took out the government, and now we have to stay until it is rebuilt.

                                                                  Fucking idiot bush.

                                                                  You can't just blame Bush. There will ALWAYS be people like Bush. We went along with it. We didn't question the media's obvious lies. The blame belongs to every citizen of this great nation.

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                                                                    • Libertine
                                                                      sex dwarf
                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                      • 17860
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                                                      As opposed to what it is now? Not a mess, that hasn't cost hundreds of thousands of lives?

                                                                      I agree with your assessment of the dangers, but what you described will happen eventually whether we are there or not. The entire post colonial idea of the country of Iraq is falwed, we shouldn't be trying to clean up the mess caused by the British Empire. Obviously we do not have the resources and/or ability to control this country. Right now we have the beginning of what you described, only with our guys stuck in the middle, and our money being flushed down the drain.

                                                                      You are obviously well informed, what do you see as the benefit of our troops staying there? What kind of realistic result do you see from a continued occupation?
                                                                      It has cost hundreds of thousands of lives so far, but the entire collapse of the country would cost many more.

                                                                      There is still the chance that Iraq could become a democracy, if the government manages to gain more control and succeeds in establishing basic security for its citizens. To do this, it needs more time up to build up the police and military.

                                                                      True, this may well not happen. And yes, the US presence fuels resentment among the population (a truly international force, or even better, an arabic one, would be much better). However, if the US were to withdraw right now or in the near future, collapse would be almost inevitable.

                                                                      The continued presence of US troops is, right now, the only thing preventing such a collapse. Even if the chance of things working out this way is rather small, it's the only chance Iraq has.

                                                                      (of course, Iraq will never become the pro-western democracy Bush the neocons dream of, but that goes without saying)
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                                                                        • notabook
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                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                          • 9748
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Libertine
                                                                          There is still the chance that Iraq could become a democracy, if the government manages to gain more control and succeeds in establishing basic security for its citizens.
                                                                          That chance is about as good as me fucking Angelina Jolie. Actually no it's not. It's about as likely as me fucking Angelina Jolie and seconds before I'm about to cum the house gets struck by a meteorite made of solid diamond, killing us both instantly then revealing a secret underground bunker that Osama Bin Laden has been hiding in the last five years and he comes out with his pants down because he was getting a handjob by Condoleezza Rice.

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                                                                            • Libertine
                                                                              sex dwarf
                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                              • 17860
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by notabook
                                                                              That chance is about as good as me fucking Angelina Jolie. Actually no it's not. It's about as likely as me fucking Angelina Jolie and seconds before I'm about to cum the house gets struck by a meteorite made of solid diamond, killing us both instantly then revealing a secret underground bunker that Osama Bin Laden has been hiding in the last five years and he comes out with his pants down because he was getting a handjob by Condoleezza Rice.
                                                                              If there were only two major groups vying for power, I would have to agree with you. The fact that there are three, though, might make a difference, since it ensures that in the political sphere, there will always be a number of differences and disagreements along various lines. This could, in theory at least, be used to divert attention from any single disagreement. Right now, for example, the political spectrum could be thought to consist of the kurds, the sunnis, the shiites allied to Iran, the shiites not allied to Iran, as well as a number of other (splinter-)groups. Each group has enough disagreements with the others to ensure that no single agenda is pushed through, and that no single one disagreement can become the only focal point for conflict.

                                                                              Of course, any possible democracy in Iraq would still most likely become a strongly islamist and possibly anti-western one, and certainly not an example of any western ideals of democracy.
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                                                                                • Libertine
                                                                                  sex dwarf
                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                  • 17860
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Oh, just for clarity: I think Iraq becoming a democracy is at best a 25% chance, assuming America stays the course. Without America, chances of Iraq becoming a democracy seem negligible.

                                                                                  (and no, I do not consider Iraq to be a democracy at present, since the elected government is close to being powerless)
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                                                                                    • Juss Urfin
                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                      • 21
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      yes pulling out is a good idea and can avoid problems in the future

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                                                                                        • notabook
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                                          • 9748
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Libertine
                                                                                          If there were only two major groups vying for power, I would have to agree with you. The fact that there are three, though, might make a difference, since it ensures that in the political sphere, there will always be a number of differences and disagreements along various lines. This could, in theory at least, be used to divert attention from any single disagreement. Right now, for example, the political spectrum could be thought to consist of the kurds, the sunnis, the shiites allied to Iran, the shiites not allied to Iran, as well as a number of other (splinter-)groups. Each group has enough disagreements with the others to ensure that no single agenda is pushed through, and that no single one disagreement can become the only focal point for conflict.

                                                                                          Of course, any possible democracy in Iraq would still most likely become a strongly islamist and possibly anti-western one, and certainly not an example of any western ideals of democracy.
                                                                                          There will never be a true demoCRAZY in Iraq, at least we clearly agree on that. There will be far too many political assassinations, corruption (viva la Mexico!), and other bullshit to preventing it from becoming a 'beacon of hope' in the Middle East. So while it may hold a title of 'democracy', it'll be no truer a democracy than me say I like black people. It just won?t happen and it doesn?t matter how many major power players there are ? two, three, seven, twelve, sixty-four; it just won?t fucking matter.

                                                                                          Then again maybe it will. Maybe in a decade you?ll see the first Iraqi president, truly elected by the people. Of course he will be the only person running on the ballot as the other?s running were strangely either imprisoned before the election due to the killing of a hooker or accidentally killed in car crashes. I know they looked like they were full of gunshot wounds, but I assure you they are not.
                                                                                          Last edited by notabook; 08-03-2006, 05:13 PM.

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                                                                                            • directfiesta
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 30151
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                              and a bill for the costs the US picked up going over there to evict Iraq from Kuwait.


                                                                                              Should research who paid the most for that ... I can tell you it WASN'T the US ...

                                                                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                • Verbal
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 3420
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  We need to pull out as soon as possible. I don't understand why we can't train Iraqi military here on our soil ... where it can be done right. Let them experience the American lifestyle for a couple of months and send them back to the 'collective' with the seed of American ideology planted in them. It sickens me to think of the billions and billions of dollars that are wasted on this completely uneccesary war. Not to mention the lies behind it.

                                                                                                  We should lead by example and that means that charity starts at home. How about spending some of that money developing other fuel sources so we don't even need their fucking oil. Jesus, how hard can it be to make an electric car?? AND what the fuck ever happened to Osama Bin Laden? *sigh* I'm all over the place.

                                                                                                  I am embarrassed and ashamed to be part of this country.

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                                                                                                    • Barefootsies
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                      • 42635
                                                                                                      #26
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                                                                                                        • KRL
                                                                                                          Entrepreneur
                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                          • 31429
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          The Senate hearing today with Pace, Rumsfeld, and Abizaid were fucking pathetic.

                                                                                                          They're going to make the US Military look ridiculous at this rate.

                                                                                                          Get the fuck out of that shithole. Mission done, Saddam is gone. Let them now have a real democracy and fight it out, instead of us trying to put the ones we favor in power which is the cause of all this crap.

                                                                                                          Makes me sick to think 2,500 young soldiers are dead from this shit and 21,000 wounded and fucked up.

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                                                                                                            • TheJimmy
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                              • 10747
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                              OR.... Maybe we should give the new government a bill for the destruction they caused in Kuwait, the billions of dollars in lost profits the Kuwaiti government lost when they destroyed 600 oil wells, the billions of dollars it took to clean up the mess, and a bill for the costs the US picked up going over there to evict Iraq from Kuwait.
                                                                                                              Yes please...I'd love for us to collect on some of the bills these places rack up.
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                                                                                                                • directfiesta
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                  • 30151
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                  Mission done, Saddam is gone.


                                                                                                                  America shoudn't be allowed to play in the World Place, just watch...
                                                                                                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                    • TheJimmy
                                                                                                                      ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                      • 10747
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                      The Senate hearing today with Pace, Rumsfeld, and Abizaid were fucking pathetic.

                                                                                                                      They're going to make the US Military look ridiculous at this rate.

                                                                                                                      Get the fuck out of that shithole. Mission done, Saddam is gone. Let them now have a real democracy and fight it out, instead of us trying to put the ones we favor in power which is the cause of all this crap.

                                                                                                                      Makes me sick to think 2,500 young soldiers are dead from this shit and 21,000 wounded and fucked up.

                                                                                                                      Reminds me of this discussion I had while deployed to Saudi a few moons ago...

                                                                                                                      I was having some tea shooting the breeze with this REALLY old bedouin dude named Saad. Nice guy & all, a real trip...

                                                                                                                      Anyways I was telling him how I felt bad during the Storm while I was on a base where we were launching massive sorties at say, 11pm and I was kinda annoyed trying to get some sleep listening to about an hour or so of jets taking off...then I was thinking <fuck those poor assholes on the receiving end are REALLY getting a shitty night's sleep>...

                                                                                                                      His response!?

                                                                                                                      "Fuck the Iraqi's they're crazy bastards anyways. You know what, if you remove Sadam they will vote in another crazy asshole or government..."

                                                                                                                      He went on a tirade for about 15-20min that was pretty interesting to say the least.


                                                                                                                      Strange place in history we're at.


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                                                                                                                        • summerland
                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                          • 162
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MattK
                                                                                                                          US is not leaving Iraq...read the articles about the new embassy in Baghdad

                                                                                                                          104 acres, 21 buildings, average height of 7 stories. surrounded by a wall that is 15 feet thick. not high -- 15 feet thick!


                                                                                                                          http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319798/

                                                                                                                          Construction cranes loom above the site of the new U.S. Embassy being built in Baghdad. The embassy will sit on 104 acres, six times larger than the United Nations compound in New York and two-thirds the acreage of Washingtonhahaha8217;s National Mall.

                                                                                                                          BAGHDAD, Iraq - The fortress-like compound rising beside the Tigris River here will be the largest of its kind in the world, the size of Vatican City, with the population of a small town, its own defense force, self-contained power and water, and a precarious perch at the heart of Iraqhahaha8217;s turbulent future.

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                                                                                                                            • KRL
                                                                                                                              Entrepreneur
                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                              • 31429
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by directfiesta


                                                                                                                              America shoudn't be allowed to play in the World Place, just watch...
                                                                                                                              I hope you guys realize at least that the current US administration simply does not give a fuck that the majority of the American people are against everything they are doing.

                                                                                                                              They apparently don't care anymore what we think and are just following their own agenda.

                                                                                                                              Its pretty fucked to see this, that the people no longer have much of a voice that matters in the United States.

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                                                                                                                                • SomeCreep
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                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                  I hope you guys realize at least that the current US administration simply does not give a fuck that the majority of the American people are against everything they are doing.

                                                                                                                                  They apparently don't care anymore what we think and are just following their own agenda.

                                                                                                                                  Its pretty fucked to see this, that the people no longer have much of a voice that matters in the United States.

                                                                                                                                  The majority of Americans voted Bush into office and kept him there for a second term. John Kerry said again and again, his agenda in office would be to start pulling troops out of Iraq and the majority of people still voted for Bush.

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                                                                                                                                    • headless ghost
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                                                                                                                                      • May 2005
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      they can't keep on running this war on a shoestring.
                                                                                                                                      like it or not they are going to have to start up a draft to get enough troops to finish this thing off once and for all.

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                                                                                                                                        • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Put Saddam back in power I say, there were less people dying when he was in control

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                                                                                                                                            • Mr. Soul
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                                                                                                                                              • 1633
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by headless ghost
                                                                                                                                              they can't keep on running this war on a shoestring.
                                                                                                                                              like it or not they are going to have to start up a draft to get enough troops to finish this thing off once and for all.

                                                                                                                                              I don't think they'll have a draft unless they start another war, like say with Iran and North Korea. And what are the odds of that?' Oh, wait, shit.

                                                                                                                                              They just upped the inlistment aged to 42. I wonder what the cut off age for the draft would be.

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                                                                                                                                                • summerland
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                                  • 162
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Just watch the end of StarWars 3 and you will see how this is going to wind up.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Blingbaby
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                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2006
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Pull out or get pushed out, pick your poison

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                                                                                                                                                        • Crynos
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                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2006
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by pornguy
                                                                                                                                                          NO. we can not. We started a war, and took out the government, and now we have to stay until it is rebuilt.

                                                                                                                                                          Fucking idiot bush.
                                                                                                                                                          I agree with this guy

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                                                                                                                                                            • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 9492
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by summerland
                                                                                                                                                              Just watch the end of StarWars 3 and you will see how this is going to wind up.
                                                                                                                                                              The Jedi will be defeated?

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                                                                                                                                                                • Blingbaby
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1079
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
                                                                                                                                                                  Put Saddam back in power I say, there were less people dying when he was in control
                                                                                                                                                                  Not only that but there was a semblance of stability in the region, if I were to guess, the Bush regime took out Saddam in a very predictable scheme to create instability in the region so we had an excuse for prolonged 'sustainable' war for decades to come. I predicted all this years ago on this board right before the invasion err I mean liberation..

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Webby
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 14956
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      What the original intention was is never going to happen - irrespective of construction of US facilities in Iraq.

                                                                                                                                                                      The net result for Iraq people overall will be a total "anti" to anything the US govt does or tries to do. However, an idiot made this bed - the idiot can sleep in it.
                                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by Webby; 08-04-2006, 09:19 PM.
                                                                                                                                                                      XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Webby
                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 14956
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Blingbaby
                                                                                                                                                                          Not only that but there was a semblance of stability in the region, if I were to guess, the Bush regime took out Saddam in a very predictable scheme to create instability in the region so we had an excuse for prolonged 'sustainable' war for decades to come. I predicted all this years ago on this board right before the invasion err I mean liberation..
                                                                                                                                                                          Sure... it's more than transparent that is the intention, irrespective of cost in both lives and funding. Same with Israel blah blah.

                                                                                                                                                                          Pity the US people actually pay taxes for these adventures into other territories.
                                                                                                                                                                          XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Blingbaby
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                                                              • 1079
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
                                                                                                                                                                              The Jedi will be defeated?
                                                                                                                                                                              Balance is the law!

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