... more than 800 sign ups in 2 weeks w/ a 52% conversion ratio ...

[Raniah]

Are You Earning Any Money From Your Adult Site Yet?



Hey this is Raniah again with Erotic-Surf

With so many erotic, sex surf sites available, how do you get yours noticed?

Better yet, how do you make any money?

The same questions go round the circuits in the non-adult business world, but there is a difference. In the non adult world there are hundreds, no thousands of smaller advertising niches for you to get your site seen by people who want to use your products.

There are safe lists, where thousands of people have opted in to accept business advertising messages from each other. The premise is you send me your ads, I'll send you mine, a sort of trade advertising method, which works wonderfully well to bring dollars into a business in no time. A new business can be broadcast to hundreds of thousands within an hour, bringing traffic almost instantly to your door.

Then there are inbox programs, or paid to read programs, where thousands upon thousands of people receive your messages in their mail, looking for a particular link to prove they have read the message. Though not all read the messages, opting to go link hunting instead, a significant portion of the real people who accept this mail, actually read at least a portion of the mail.

You find traffic exchanges by the hordes. Mini Advertising Agencies set up specifically to trade traffic among business owners and affiliate program promoters. With a traffic exchange you simply add a site you want to promote to the exchange database, and agree to view a small number of other members sites each day, generally between 10 and 30 sites which run on an automatic timer that you just watch. Hopefully if you like an add, can use it's services you will click on that advertisement.

There are submitters which can take your advertisement and broadcast it to a million people each month and more.

There is a large and gaping void in the adult business community of resources like these in which a webmaster or affiliate promoter could turn an unknown business into a success in a short time.

Case in point. On a recent business start up, in which I assisted the owner in web set up and development, she took an unknown, completely new business run by a woman with no guru name or affiliation and brought in 800 members in less than two weeks.

Not only were the members active for her site, they had a 52% conversion and upgrade ratio. After the first week, her customers were upgrading instantly on sign up.

The business in reference used safe lists, traffic programs and referrals. There is not a question that these programs work. With more than 10,000 of such programs in existence the proof is there.

The question is, why aren't there any such programs in the adult industry?

It's time for the adult business to join the rest of the world in using these tested and successful resources. The problem is, that most, approximately 99% of all these resources make it a glaring part of their terms of service that NO ADULT sites are allowed because of the family nature of the programs.

A program has to be set up specifically to market and advertise adult oriented material using the above methods.

Well, I've done that for you. Why? I'm in business just like you. I want to make some money in a market that is all but completely overlooked. The revenue potential is tremendous and the time and learning commitment on the part of the business owner is all but negligible. Within minutes you have your advertising set up and running.


The first part of our venture is Erotic-Surf

This site gives you the ability to add your own business on sign up for free! with a limited amount of free credits for your site to be shown on the surf.

If you choose to upgrade you'll get two great benefits.
First you'll get 5,000 site views for your own business to be shown to others viewing the same system. Your site will be shown for a full 60 seconds - wow! Who gets a potential customer to view their ad for a full minute?

Second, you'll earn a percentage of your upgrade amount to be paid to you twice a month.

You can also purchase more page views, banner exposures, paid to click or paid to read advertising right from your members back office. As you see, there are many opportunities for you to take control of your own advertising.

The best part of Erotic-Surf is that you can try it before you put out one thin dime!

Sign up, add your site, run the surf and see how easy and profitable
your own marketing can be from this day forward!

The free trial is good for one week, 7 days, and there is no credit card authorization needed up front.

No payments until you decide that you want to be an upgraded member.

Come over and check out Erotic-Surf for your business and start profit advertising today!

To your success!

Raniah
Erotic-Surf

p.s. Another bonus is you'll find some of the hottest sex sites on the net all under one roof. All pop up free.

[BVF]

why did i know when I never saw this name plus AMAZING ratios that it would probably be SPAM?

[AmeliaG]

Can someone summarize the spam please?

[xclusive]

You need to spam in 10 lines or less or you will lose people

[Raniah]

Give it a try Jim, you might find that it actually works.

[bobby666]

please hire a designer 4 your ugly sites

[Phoenix]

are you selling traffic?..i like traffic

[Raniah]

Ok, let me summarize since this is considered spam instead of an announcement or passing on information.

New Program

1 Sign up and get free exposure for your sites.

2 Upgrade and earn commission on your upgrade amount.

This is a traffic trade program. You list your site. View 20 other sites each day.

Others do the same for your sites.

Don't want to view the 20 sites? Your sites will still run, you just won't earn commission.

How's that? These are very effective means of advertisement.

[MattO]

SIG TOO BIG

[Wizzo]

I would sugest that you should link your banner in your sig, but since it will be removed once the Mods see it, I wouldn't bother...

2. Signature rules. Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of default size and color. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Yes there is a reason this is so big. Also putting your text in a cell and making it look like a button is against the rules. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by Raniah

Ok, let me summarize since this is considered spam instead of an announcement or passing on information.

New Program

1 Sign up and get free exposure for your sites.

2 Upgrade and earn commission on your upgrade amount.

This is a traffic trade program. You list your site. View 20 other sites each day.

Others do the same for your sites.

Don't want to view the 20 sites? Your sites will still run, you just won't earn commission.

How's that? These are very effective means of advertisement.

So your paying website owners to look at other websites? That's just retarted....

[Raniah]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

are you selling traffic?..i like traffic

Yes, but on sign up you get 3,000 free page view credits. Give it a try.

[Raniah]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

I would sugest that you should link your banner in your sig, but since it will be removed once the Mods see it, I wouldn't bother...

Thanks, missed that...

[Raniah]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

So your paying website owners to look at other websites? That's just retarted....

Thanks Wizzo,

But think about this...

There are more than 150,000 people who use these kinds of programs to advertise their businesses. With numbers that large there HAS to be a reason.

Just because it hasn't been done in THIS industry, doesn't mean it doesn't work.

Of those 150,000 people who use this type of program, a portion are webmasters, yes, because webmasters are also consumers, and webmasters benefit most by having their sites listed and shown to other site members - also known as getting traffic.

Another portion is just the average everyday joe, who wants to earn the commission on views and in this case, view his or her porn pop up free.

Don't you get irritated at the system clogs generated by pops on pops?

Now that I have been officially hazed into the Go Fuck Yourself forum, maybe we can start looking at some real benefits, like

free site views

low cost advertising

and earning a little money. All webmasters are not earning big bucks on their sites and a little money is better than no money I always say.

If you can get past the "ugly" site, perhaps you can see a way to get some value for your biz.

Raniah

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by Raniah

Ta portion are webmasters, yes, because webmasters are also consumers, and webmasters benefit most by having their sites listed and shown to other site members - also known as getting traffic.

I think this is where your fatal flaw is... No, webmasters are not the consumers, and webmasters will receive absolutely no benefit from having their sites shown to other webmasters. That is <b>not</b> known as "getting traffic".

[Doctor Dre]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

So your paying website owners to look at other websites? That's just retarted....

There a site called blog explosion that works like that for blog owners and it's working.

I somehow doubt it would work for adult webmasters... and sales would be awfull.

This project is bond to fail.

[Nicky]

800 signups in 2 weeks and 52% conversion ratio......

now apply to adult and you would have 8 signups and 0,52% conversion ratio

[testpie]

Wow - the text layout looks just identical to one of those shitty "buy my eBook for a better XYZ" site.

Having said that, did i read it? Did i bollocks.

Go figure.

[Raniah]

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

There a site called blog explosion that works like that for blog owners and it's working.

I somehow doubt it would work for adult webmasters... and sales would be awfull.

This project is bond to fail.

Interested in why you think it would work for blogs and not for adult ...

Raniah

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by Raniah

Interested in why you think it would work for blogs and not for adult ...

Raniah

Because you have made it in the wrong end, paying webmasters to see porn.....maybe you should make it for webmaster programs/tools instead and pay webmasters to see it....Mogul already tried that

[CyberBachelor]

this spam tastes like shit.

[Raniah]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I think this is where your fatal flaw is... No, webmasters are not the consumers, and webmasters will receive absolutely no benefit from having their sites shown to other webmasters. That is <b>not</b> known as "getting traffic".

I have to differ with you there,

I am a webmaster and I definately buy.

As a matter of fact, I find many products that I'm interested in purchasing, in just this type of program. Too many if you look at my credit card statements. The other webmasters who showed their sites to me "a webmaster" benefited from my purchase.

If you are a restaurant owner, does that mean you dont eat in any other restaurant?

If you are a photographer, does that mean you aren't interested in any other photographers work?


This is really very simple. Webmasters are a portion of the targeted audience. And yes, I'm looking for webmasters who want to have their sites shown to other people - whether they own internet businesses or not.

Two I'm looking for people who want to surf porn and earn a little cash.

Stick to those two points and that's all its really about.

Showing your site and earning cash.


If you aren't interested, thanks for looking.

Those who are interested, just sign up free and give it a test spin. Upgrade later if you chose.

Will you lose anything?

Rania

[KRL]

Dude, you gotta keep pitches simple if you expect people to sign up for your deal.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG Webmaster

[alan-l]

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooring spam

besides, I want SURFERS traffic (like in those who don't have free access to all the porn they want) who have WALLETS and the WILL to use them, not 20 webmasters clicking to create fictitious traffic. This is the biggets flaw on your great idea, but there are several more. btw, the fact that according to you your site uses all big CC processors and you can only pay via EGold, a system most Russia and former East countries webmasters use is not giving you a lot of credibility, specially when you speak English like a native and your whois info is from US.

but what do I know...

[12clicks]

ahhhh, the pay per view scam has hit adult. hahahaha

[Jakke PNG]

I tried to click all those underlined lines of text, but nothing worked.. and I have sigs disabled, so I assume there's nothing worthwhile to see.

[polle54]

GFY is 100% what you just descriped

you get your add shown and you see what others can offer you.

your idea is worthless in this world m8

[pocketkangaroo]

I would just like to say that this is the dumbest idea I have ever heard.

[SexyCarla]

If 'adult webmasters' start surfing porn sites all day to get traffic instead of buying it flat out or getting by other means their bound to get a hard on sooner or later and give in huh?

Is that what your banking on?

That's like real estate agents surfing each others site to generate traffic and sales.

You left some zeros out of that predictated conversion rate.

More like 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000052

The best thing any newbie will get from this type of advertising is a good alexa rating.... if you get enough to participate. Even that's garbage!

But the good thing is you'll find this out from the end results.

[reginaldo]

Originally Posted by Raniah

I have to differ with you there,

I am a webmaster and I definately buy.

As a matter of fact, I find many products that I'm interested in purchasing, in just this type of program. Too many if you look at my credit card statements. The other webmasters who showed their sites to me "a webmaster" benefited from my purchase.

Rania

you suck at webmaster

[madawgz]

too much spam for me to read

[Raniah]

Originally Posted by polle54

GFY is 100% what you just descriped

you get your add shown and you see what others can offer you.

your idea is worthless in this world m8

Aha!

At last, proof that the concept is not flawed. Thank you.

While you are here arguing over it, we are slowly getting sign ups on this first day. Not to 30 or 40 on the first day yet, but we've still got a few hours to go.

Will keep you updated.

Despite what the concensus here seems to be, I'm giving this its best shot. So thanks for your comments.

[Raniah]

Originally Posted by SexyCarla

If 'adult webmasters' start surfing porn sites all day to get traffic instead of buying it flat out or getting by other means their bound to get a hard on sooner or later and give in huh?

Is that what your banking on?

That's like real estate agents surfing each others site to generate traffic and sales.

You left some zeros out of that predictated conversion rate.

More like 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000052

The best thing any newbie will get from this type of advertising is a good alexa rating.... if you get enough to participate. Even that's garbage!

But the good thing is you'll find this out from the end results.

Now there's an idea...

As a webmaster, you could just upgrade for say 10 - 15 bucks and have your sites shown all month couldn't you?

Without surfing one page.

But if you did want to surf, you could earn a little cash too.

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[CIVMatt]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

So your paying website owners to look at other websites? That's just retarted....

LOL thats what I was thinking... why would *I* have to go visit 20 sites... that IS retarded