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Old 06-11-2002, 08:12 PM   #1
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I need a non-adult site design, any designer interested?

Hey... I need someone to design this site all over again.

www.4playent.com

it's going to be in HTML...

and I need it ASAP...

message me and we can talk about the price

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Old 06-11-2002, 08:13 PM   #2
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If one can design, it matters not if it be Adult or Non adult.
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:14 PM   #3
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not true,

adult and non adult is very very different

one is very flashy, and one is very crisp and clean
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:17 PM   #4
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not true,

adult and non adult is very very different

one is very flashy, and one is very crisp and clean

but that together my friend and you can be jack of all trades
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:17 PM   #5
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adult and non adult is very very different

one is very flashy, and one is very crisp and clean
Huh?

Adult has always stated where mainstream goes, this can be said from the beta to VHS switch back in the days.

No different than todays designers.

You have companies like ExitExchange saying they started pop unders, yet we have been using them for 5 years in the Adult World.

Any true designer can design anything.

Thats like saying a musician cant do cover songs, or a Blues guy cant play Country, bullshit.

I can do ANYTHING I want to. And so can you, well maybe.

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Old 06-11-2002, 08:20 PM   #6
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well

my opinion is you are wrong

a designer that does main stream full time can not just jump into adult, they have to adapt to the style

trust me, i have some amazing mainstream and adult designers working for me, and my mainstream guy can't design adult for shit, simply because he is not use to the style that adult designs consist of, and he does awesome mainstream work, no lower then $10k per design so
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:23 PM   #7
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I think that design you have right now is pretty nice, little too much flash, but still nice
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:24 PM   #8
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my opinion is you are wrong

a designer that does main stream full time can not just jump into adult, they have to adapt to the style

trust me, i have some amazing mainstream and adult designers working for me, and my mainstream guy can't design adult for shit, simply because he is not use to the style that adult designs consist of, and he does awesome mainstream work, no lower then $10k per design so

I agree, I'm sure I could pull out some great mainstream stuff...but adult has a certain style to learn really...
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:26 PM   #9
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my opinion is you are wrong

a designer that does main stream full time can not just jump into adult, they have to adapt to the style

trust me, i have some amazing mainstream and adult designers working for me, and my mainstream guy can't design adult for shit, simply because he is not use to the style that adult designs consist of, and he does awesome mainstream work, no lower then $10k per design so
You pay a guy 10k and he cant design Adult too?

Dude I used to paint the sides of building for money during art school, you gonna tell me an artist is limited to one of the other?

Just because the guys you hire cant do both doesnt mean someone else cant.

My opinion is you stereotype artists too much and only believe in what YOUR artists can do and not others.


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Old 06-11-2002, 08:29 PM   #10
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i'd never pay a designer that much

the people whom i contract him out i charge that much

i can get him for the whole month for that

he can do amazing 3d flash, everything...anybody that knows me well and that i have shown my projects to KNOW my designs are always top notch, with amazing flash, and a very professional level of design.
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:31 PM   #11
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my opinion is you are wrong

a designer that does main stream full time can not just jump into adult,
The artist has limited himself here.

THAT is why he cannot do both. No other reason.


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Old 06-11-2002, 08:32 PM   #12
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so your saying

a true artist can just jump into anything

no way, practice makes perfect.
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:38 PM   #13
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so your saying

a true artist can just jump into anything

no way, practice makes perfect.
Nope, if ya read youd see what I said.

I said when one can design it matters not if it be Adult or Non, nothing about jumping into anything.

One cannot jump into ANYTHING and expect to be a master of anything.

I have been in this for years, so I have not jumped in anything, and I base ALL my comments on experience and myself, as I was speaking for MYSELf in the original reply.

If anything i "Jumped into" this almost 7 years ago,... so again I say when One can design it matters not.

You say practice makes perfect, well if one can practice Adult, one can practice the other. I started out doing Mainstream and moved to adult.

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Old 06-11-2002, 08:39 PM   #14
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:45 PM   #15
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thats cool
But I understand whatcha mean bro, my main thing is Adult ;)

I bet those artists you have kick ass huh? I can't do Flash for chit hehehe
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:46 PM   #16
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yeah man

he does some amazing 3d flash

if you hit me up on icq sometime i can show ya amazing stuff he's done

those mainstream companies fork out the dough for creativity!
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:49 PM   #17
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yes they certainly do.....
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:54 PM   #18
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Old 06-11-2002, 08:55 PM   #19
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making a good mainstream website has very little to do with design

Designs can be bought pretty cheap.

Functionality, branding, atmosphere, purpose, these elements count.

Anyone who thinks the teams who designed amazon, disney, pepsi etc. can suddenly come up with good adult designs that actually convert is crazy.

Likewise just because you are good in photoshop and can design a great Hometowmslut.com site, does not mean you understand the necessary architecture for a Citibank site.

Artists will always be cheap, and will be employed and paid by marketers and salespeople, except for the 1% that break through and make decent money. The 0.1% of artists that are really successful make shit loads of money, but in the end you normally find out it was their marketing skills not their art that made them the success. Madonna being a very good example.
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yes they certainly do.....
yeah I know, but I have been cursed, I worked for Corporate Porn companies and there is NOTHING more disgusting than a porn company gone corporate... I doubt I could do work for Corporate Mainstream sites no matter how much it payed.

I despise them, that much.
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Madonna being a very good example.
She openly stated she fucked her way to the top.

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I doubt I could do work for Corporate Mainstream sites no matter how much it payed.

I despise them, that much.
been there.... it does suck on a large level.
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been there.... it does suck on a large level.
Large like....

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