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Old 08-01-2006, 09:10 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by Rochard
Most of the people you see open up their own programs don't just "jump in" but instead have been pushing traffic to other programs for a few years. At some point in time they say "I can do this on my own and keep more of the money". And they do. Some do well, some fail.

I know of someone right now who has been pushing traffic via TGPs for the past two years. He's making enough money to support himself full time and is working full time on his own program. The first day he opens he'll send himself forty sign ups and he'll have a dozen hand picked affiliates that will send maybe another forty signups on day one. And this is before he goes public with his new program.

So all he needs to do is shoot or purchase some content, build two or three sites, an affiliate site, zip up some content for promo purposes, make a few banners and half page / full page ads, and kiss a little ass. And bingo, he's making more money over night.
Of course I hear what you are saying......but just take a look at how many
new programs open using for example NATS if you look at those you'd
be suprised.

again I'm not saying it can't be done and that it's not feasable anymore for
people who know what they are doing......I'm just noticing a HUGE increase
in programs/sites ran by people from which I seriously doubt they'll know
what they are doing.

Those are the ones that just have seemed to jump on the bandwagon.

The people who know their stuff will make it whatever strategy they use
with affiliates or without coz they have a plan and have data that it will
work before they jump in.
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:17 AM   #52
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Everything has 2 sides, ofcourse there will always be those who succeed and those who fail, the question is who are you gonna be?
That's easy....I don't run any paysites or programs....I do have LOADS of
clients who do....and I provide a service to them.....I've got clients in all kinds
of categories, ones that already have made it, ones that will going to make and
also ones from which I'm very certain they won't make it.

The last one are the hardest.....they require most of my time.....I do give them
my honest opinion....as I'm not comfortable taking peoples money for as long it
lasts and I do try to help them.....but you can only do so much

I've actually stopped taking clients who belong to that group. They take too
much of my time and no matter what I try to do.....they'll still fail so I'd
rather stay away from it.....allthough i do feel sorry for them.
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:20 AM   #53
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Unfortunately not....too busy at the moment. IŽll be at webmaster access
in Amsterdam
well have to catch up next time
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:47 AM   #54
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well have to catch up next time
We certainly will
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:04 AM   #55
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I think Andriej is closer to $1k per day than $1k per month :D

if it really takes him only a few hours per week to manage the program, then even better for him
hmmm, not a bad guess...hmmm
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