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ServerGenius 08-01-2006 06:01 AM
And no IŽm not a bitter webmaster who had this scenario happening to me :winkwink:

Marie 08-01-2006 06:21 AM
Genius, can you check your icq for me for a sec... i'm trying to bother you... AGAIN.

ServerGenius 08-01-2006 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Marie
Genius, can you check your icq for me for a sec... i'm trying to bother you... AGAIN.
Done and fixed :winkwink:

Murderous 08-01-2006 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicky
100 affiliates doing 10 sales per month each is another 1000 joins a month that you wouldnt have had if you promoted it your self, most programs that start out do promote thier own sites hard too. But mainly I do agree with you that affiliates is not always the way to get the $$
Yes, and if you SHAVE 1/2 of those sales, then what is the profit?

Oh. I see... we forgot for a second that almost everyone under the sun shaves these days.

polish_aristocrat 08-01-2006 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ServerGenius
It sounds easy.....but you wonŽt make it that way....unless you consider
making it means doing $1000 per month with a few of your buddies.
I think Andriej is closer to $1k per day than $1k per month :D

if it really takes him only a few hours per week to manage the program, then even better for him :thumbsup

Murderous 08-01-2006 08:29 AM
Let's not forget about branding and type-ins from affiliates banners fpa's and fhg's containing the url.

There are pluses to both sides.

ServerGenius 08-01-2006 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
I think Andriej is closer to $1k per day than $1k per month :D

if it really takes him only a few hours per week to manage the program, then even better for him :thumbsup
Of course I don't doubt that.....I don't say it can't be done coz I know it is.
I'm talking about the majority that pops up these days....not the clever guys
who actually really know what they are doing and have the sources to make
it work.

ServerGenius 08-01-2006 08:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murderous
Let's not forget about branding and type-ins from affiliates banners fpa's and fhg's containing the url.

There are pluses to both sides.
You only benefit from that once it really works.....not when you're starting up
have to find GOOD affiliates and actually really getting them to send a substantial
amount of traffic to your program.

Rochard 08-01-2006 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ServerGenius
I often wonder why almost everybody who decides to startup a few paysites
is also playing the affiliate game. In todays market I think unless you have
very deep pockets and a VERY LONG BREATH they will only cost you money
and decrease the chance on success.

Just think about it for a minute.....software, staff, freecontent, cheaters,
support, handling a hurd of mostly ignorant webmasters for approx 30% of
each sale? Unless youŽre doing a HUGE volume, have really good average
retentions and realise that it will take you a LONG time till you actually
see profit it will only cost you tons of money, time, patience, drama, etc, etc.

Now if you use HALF of that budget or even less.....buying traffic and marketing
your sites yourself which is a fraction of the cost and will make you a LOT more
money unless youŽre REALLY clueless.

Your content wonŽt be oversaturated....you wonŽt piss off customers by
attempting to cheat them and thus ruining your chance on a sale or worse
getting complaints from people that DID fall for it.

You can carefully select traffic sources and sites where you want to
promote your sites reaching a MUCH more targetted audience which
will improve conversions and member retention.

I can keep on going sprouting more arguments which will even proof my
point more. Yet everybody seems to just jump on the bandwagon and do
the exact same thing as everybody else.

Of course there are exceptions.....and funny enough I donŽt know ANY of
them who fail.......

Am I missing the point here or am I just damn smart :winkwink:

Discuss! :pimp
Most of the people you see open up their own programs don't just "jump in" but instead have been pushing traffic to other programs for a few years. At some point in time they say "I can do this on my own and keep more of the money". And they do. Some do well, some fail.

I know of someone right now who has been pushing traffic via TGPs for the past two years. He's making enough money to support himself full time and is working full time on his own program. The first day he opens he'll send himself forty sign ups and he'll have a dozen hand picked affiliates that will send maybe another forty signups on day one. And this is before he goes public with his new program.

So all he needs to do is shoot or purchase some content, build two or three sites, an affiliate site, zip up some content for promo purposes, make a few banners and half page / full page ads, and kiss a little ass. And bingo, he's making more money over night.

Nicky 08-01-2006 09:02 AM
Everything has 2 sides, ofcourse there will always be those who succeed and those who fail, the question is who are you gonna be? :)

ServerGenius 08-01-2006 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard
Most of the people you see open up their own programs don't just "jump in" but instead have been pushing traffic to other programs for a few years. At some point in time they say "I can do this on my own and keep more of the money". And they do. Some do well, some fail.

I know of someone right now who has been pushing traffic via TGPs for the past two years. He's making enough money to support himself full time and is working full time on his own program. The first day he opens he'll send himself forty sign ups and he'll have a dozen hand picked affiliates that will send maybe another forty signups on day one. And this is before he goes public with his new program.

So all he needs to do is shoot or purchase some content, build two or three sites, an affiliate site, zip up some content for promo purposes, make a few banners and half page / full page ads, and kiss a little ass. And bingo, he's making more money over night.
Of course I hear what you are saying......but just take a look at how many
new programs open using for example NATS if you look at those you'd
be suprised.

again I'm not saying it can't be done and that it's not feasable anymore for
people who know what they are doing......I'm just noticing a HUGE increase
in programs/sites ran by people from which I seriously doubt they'll know
what they are doing.

Those are the ones that just have seemed to jump on the bandwagon.

The people who know their stuff will make it whatever strategy they use
with affiliates or without coz they have a plan and have data that it will
work before they jump in.

ServerGenius 08-01-2006 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicky
Everything has 2 sides, ofcourse there will always be those who succeed and those who fail, the question is who are you gonna be? :)
That's easy....I don't run any paysites or programs....I do have LOADS of
clients who do....and I provide a service to them.....I've got clients in all kinds
of categories, ones that already have made it, ones that will going to make and
also ones from which I'm very certain they won't make it.

The last one are the hardest.....they require most of my time.....I do give them
my honest opinion....as I'm not comfortable taking peoples money for as long it
lasts and I do try to help them.....but you can only do so much :winkwink:

I've actually stopped taking clients who belong to that group. They take too
much of my time and no matter what I try to do.....they'll still fail so I'd
rather stay away from it.....allthough i do feel sorry for them.

corvette 08-01-2006 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ServerGenius
Unfortunately not....too busy at the moment. IŽll be at webmaster access
in Amsterdam :winkwink:
well have to catch up next time
:)

ServerGenius 08-01-2006 09:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by corvette
well have to catch up next time
:)
We certainly will :thumbsup

andrej_NDC 08-01-2006 10:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
I think Andriej is closer to $1k per day than $1k per month :D

if it really takes him only a few hours per week to manage the program, then even better for him :thumbsup
hmmm, not a bad guess...hmmm :)


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