Yes they do moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanes...t_of_July_2005

Hezbollah members hold seats in the government, therefore they do represnt and speak for the people of Lebanon who elected them,

I think you and I are sort of on the same page.

I think... Israel is making the right decisions in a military sense but not in a political sense. The political backlash, the children now joining up with Hezbollah, and the brother Arab nations turning their support to Hezbollah is going to really strain things in the Middle East even more.

Like I said in the post you quoted, in some situations you have no choice. If the madman is likely to kill you otherwise, you have no choice. However, in this case, the madman is weak, limping, and although a threat, not a large one. There is no chance of Hezbollah defeating Israel, or even posing a serious threat to the continued existence of Israel.

During a cease-fire, negotiations with the UN could, and probably would, quickly lead to a peacekeeping force restraining Hezbollah's capacity to attack Israel. If that is the goal, a cease-fire would undoubtedly be the best strategy.

Meanwhile, these attacks on Lebanon completely destroy Lebanon's ability to get rid of the influence of Iran and Syria, and actually prevent Lebanon from disarming Hezbollah in the near future - something the majority of the Lebanese parliament does want.

There aren't any Jews in Israel? :1orglaugh

Stop man, im on your side here.

But you fuel all the anti-semites here when you use Jews instead of Israelies.

Oh, Israel should respond. Just not this way. A more limited response - including not going for those Hezbollah targets with the highest likelihood for a large number of civilian casualties - coupled with an urgent appeal to the UN for a peacekeeping force, as well as negotiations with the Lebanese majority for the eventual disarming of Hezbollah, just would have been a better response entirely.

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Right because Hezbollah has actually military bases and aren't scum who hide thier arsenal of weapons in daycares and apartments.


Im sure some tool on gfy has better militarty intellgence to where Hezbollah hides then the actually IDF.

I highly doubt Israel was ever afraid of Hezbollah destroying them.

Israel and Iran are arch enemies. This is obvious. Hezbollah and Iran are fuck buddies. This too is obvious. Iran is feeding Hezbollah with money and equipment and has for years. With no intervention, that stockpile will only continue to grow. That is evidenced by a few of the recent rockets fired deep into Israel by Hezbollah.

Israel does not want that stockpile to grow, for obvious reasons. Sitting down and having a nice chat about the issue over tea and crumpets is not going to deplete that stockpile anymore than telling Iran to stop their uranium enrichment program is going to actually make them stop without force.

*yawns* Fuck the jewrats and fuck the sandfags, let them duke it out and for once let the USA stay out of it. Wait... what do you mean the USA has already gotten in on it and is funding the jewrats even more money to kill the sandfags with? Oh god damn it.

Exactly, except for one thing: even in a military sense, Israel is not making the right decisions. The current campaign is aimed at "destroying" Hezbollah, the possibility of which is a dangerous illusion.

Since Hezbollah is a terrorist group rather than a traditional army, it is virtually impossible to cause them severe damage, much less destroy them, through traditional military means. They have little land and few buildings to defend, and can easily "disappear" among the population. To disarm them, strong support from within Lebanon is essential. That can only be achieved through political means, by boosting the antipathy most Lebanese feel (I hope "feel" is still the right word, and has not changed to "felt") towards Hezbollah, and by gaining strong international support.

50..........

Close to a million people have moved out of Southern Lebanon. Lebanon has just under 4 million people. A quarter of the entire countries population has moved out of Southern Lebanon. Hezbollah has more than enough room to operate without being anywhere near "large numbers of civilians", and yet somehow, the "large number of civilians" are getting struck every 3 days.

I hear what you're saying, but at the same time I'm sitting here scratching my head. Your recommended solutions haven't worked, at all. Hezbollah was already supposed to be unarmed, nobody needs to plead with the Lebanese government, they already wanted it. There are over 2000 UN "observers" already monitoring the border. And finally a huge portion of Southern Lebanon has nobody left, and yet amazingly the "Freedom Fighters" can't fight without putting their own people in danger.

Well I don't really think the anti-semites need any fueling, but point taken.

You should learn how to read, mr "Didn't the roman christians kill Jesus?".

Most attacks on Hezbollah would cause civilian casualties, but in varying numbers. What I pointed out is that going for those targets with the highest amounts of civilian casualties has a political and social backlash that more than offsets any possible military gains.

Go Fuck Yourself :boid

Awwww poor baby, are your terrorist buddies getting their asses kicked?
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If history repeated that's exactly how Israel could go down. is how they came to existence is how they could go. so gotta be careful :upsidedow

Number of Christian Jews in Israel Doubles to 10,000
In Israel, the number of Christian Jews, known as Messianic Jews, has doubled in size to about 10,000 due to recent immigration waves.

Posted: Saturday, April 30 , 2005, 16:40 (BST)




In Israel, the number of Christian Jews, known as Messianic Jews, has doubled in size to about 10,000 due to recent immigration waves, according to Messianic leaders and evangelism opponents.

Eitan Shishkoff, the leader of a Messianic community in Haifa, located about 70 miles north of Jerusalem, says that there are roughly 10,000 members in 80 Messianic congregations around the country.

The population is twice that of 1980?s, when significant numbers of immigrants from the former Soviet Union began entering the country, according to the Jerusalem Post. Shishkoff says that 70 percent of the members in his congregation of 270 are from the Soviet Union.

In Israel, it is illegal for evangelism efforts to involve material benefits for prospective converts, according to the Jerusalem Post.

Yad L?Achim, and "anti-missionary" organisation opposed to "proselytism" since 1950, says that the Russian-speakers are being approached because of their "weak ties to Judaism and poor socioeconomic status," and are being "bought" through material benefits, according to the Post.

Shishkoff denies the allegation. "Maybe a few of our members first came in contact with us through the charity, but 98 percent of them didn?t ? make that 99.9 percent," he said.






Francis Helguero
Christian Today Correspondent




Still no thank you for correcting your ignorance.

It's time that we stop putting blame on any one group and start to focus on understanding both sides...that's the first step in accomplishing peace in the Middle East. Efforts should be made on cultural understanding and education campaigns, not war campaigns. Whether it's Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon or Iran...the US and Israel are only treating the symptoms of the problem instead of getting to the root.

Your a moron. If everyone applied your logic, the world would have been blown up a long time ago.

No, I just think that you are an asshole and you don't know anything about me, but I can tell alot about you by your posts.

Many people in Lebanon can't or won't move away, and Hezbollah takes advantage of that. It may not be fair, but it is reality. Nobody is accusing Hezbollah of having any regard for the lives of the Lebanese. What is also reality, though, is that some actions against Hezbollah have more potential for civilian casualties than others, that Israel also engages in those actions with a very large potential for large numbers of civilian casualties, and that this ultimately harms Israels cause.

As for my solutions, they wouldn't work immediately, and probably not entirely either. However, a more limited response from Israel combined with the other things I mentioned would have ensured a larger (and, presumably, more effective) peacekeeping force from the UN, as well as increased efforts on the part of the Lebanese government to disarm Hezbollah. Those things would have a large positive effect. Meanwhile, the current strategy Israel is pursuing is winning over thousands of Lebanese for Hezbollah, and it has very little chance of structurally hurting Hezbollah.

What terrorist organizations depend on, even more than they do on weapons and money, is hatred. In a way, Israel is supplying Hezbollah with what they need most - people with a good reason to hate Israel.

Hezbollah can and will build up a new stockpile quickly after this conflict ends, since it is the perfect way for Iran and Syria to fight Israel without actually having to face Israel.

What is needed is a way to diminish support for Hezbollah within Lebanon itself, but this, quite clearly, is not it.

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If you're going to claim intellectual superiority over someone, the least you could do is use proper grammar while doing so.

You fucking imbecile.

I always find amuzing people that tend to bargain with human lives like they are talking about something with absolutely no value. They are the first you would see run when the shit hits the fan in their own homeland. Make no mistake about it.

I keep in touch with over 20 ppl from Israel and I have yet to see a single one of them to say anything close to as arrogant as some of those comments posted at gfy the last days. If your mission is to subliminally deliver a msg that you care about what's going in Israel, trust me you blatantly failed. I highly doubt you give a flying fuck like most here. The funny part is that that the periodical phenomenon we call history more likely will knock your door in the future in a way you'll re-consider the things you find so simple to express for now.

Whatever, you are just a waste of time, I'm going back to making money.

Awwww don't go away mad.






















Just go away.

You mean will BANG on the rag heads' door right? cos the history has already been knocking for a while now is what making them so upset :winkwink:

You make it seem liek there is another option.

I am open-minded so i will listen.

If the IDF's goal is to defend thier citizens by stopping katyusha rockets fired from Hezballa into Israel, then where do they attack?

If not the apartments where Hezbollah scum hide thier arsenal of weapons, or key roads and airports to stop import of other weapons, then where do they?

Maybe you have a better idea that would stop the firing of hezbollah rockets into israel, but i have yet to hear it.

It is simple.

Isreal (or Jews as you call them) have been getting attacked more than any other group of people. All they want is peace if even in thier small home country of Israel. They are tired of appeasment and being kicked around.

Their nieghnors (Iran, Palastine, and most other Muslim-marjority counties) want the end of Israel.

Not more land from them, or anything else. THey do not want to stop untill there is no more Israel.

It comes down to taking them (Hezbollah and other terrortist groups, not the innocent people of Lebonan or other countries) out before, they have a chance to take out Isreal.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh look who's talking :helpme

Not sure what you mean.

Lenny if you feel so strong ,you should go to Israel take up arms and join the fight.

Why don't you go fuck yourself, you fucking JEW...??...

ASSHole... :1orglaugh

I'm going to bed now, so I'll keep it short. Maybe I'll post some more tomorrow.

What the IDF is doing right now contributes to the conflict raging on, and apart from that, ensures that it is likely to be continued in the future. A cease-fire would both provide immediate relief for Israel (for obvious reasons), as well as serving to prevent future conflicts by weakening support for Hezbollah within Lebanon, creating the possibility of a large peacekeeping force, and aiding the Lebanese majority in their own struggle against Hezbollah.

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Now, that's funny !!!!!

You fucking destroy 2 countries, kill 100K+ civilians and you come up with this ...

Be honest, just say:

" We have the power to exterminate all lebanese, and will do so; our big brother gives us the :thumbsup "

At least, that is believable.

lenny lenny lenny..... come on now lenny

I don't know which fakenick you are , but you are funny ... and profound at the same time :winkwink:

You are 100% right ... I always do the difference .. but people don't notice ...

Maybe I will as soon as I'm done fucking your wife, you camel fucking mameluke.