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Old 07-30-2006, 10:34 PM   #1
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Why doesn't anyone in the Middle East respect Jesus?

So, this guy was born six miles south of Jerusalem.



...and no one in the area worships him? The Jews don't. The Muslims don't. Hell, they even have offshoots of religions like the Shiites that pick people that had nothing to do with anything to worship instead of Jesus.

Do they know something that Christians don't? It seems they would since if anyone knew him they would being from the same neck of the woods and all.

Why is this?
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Well the Muslims highly respect and the dude and they consider him to be an awesome prophet, one of the greatest of the messengers that God sent to humanity, but like the Jew?s they don?t think of him as the son of God. They do believe he was ?born? of God?s hands, but not of a woman or man but instead like Adam was (spoke into existence). Jesus is right up there with Mohammed to Muslims. As for the Jews? they killed Jesus.
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Watch what you say. I hear the Mormons in Nebraska are kinda violent. Say something bad about Jesus and the Church of the Latter Day Saints may hold a vigil on YOUR ass!
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Lebanon is in the middle east, right? Well, roughly 40% of Lebanese are christians, and thus respect Jesus. In fact, their presidents are required to be christians.
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Lebanon is in the middle east, right? Well, roughly 40% of Lebanese are christians, and thus respect Jesus. In fact, their presidents are required to be christians.
Hmm, that seems to be an isolated case...

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Heh, I think that will happen within 200 years if the aliens don't visit us first and unify our hate.
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Respect for life by putting down all weapons would be a nice step !

"Why doesn't anyone in the Middle East respect Jesus?"

Well... perhaps these people when they are finished killing off all their brothers and making all their land unlivable... will they find their god... Very sad statement I know !

If these people think they are serving their god by shedding blood of others, then perhaps... only when they are dead will they have some purpose and in their own way have to serve a power higher then them... their god(s)
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Damn... Could you imagine if you went there are started yelling out "jesus, jesus, jesus"
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So, this guy was born six miles south of Jerusalem.


...and no one in the area worships him? The Jews don't. The Muslims don't. Hell, they even have offshoots of religions like the Shiites that pick people that had nothing to do with anything to worship instead of Jesus.

Do they know something that Christians don't? It seems they would since if anyone knew him they would being from the same neck of the woods and all.

Why is this?

In recent years there has been some evidence brought to light to strongly suggest that J.C was nothing more than a very clever charlatan. In fact I would also go as far as to say that the most commonly accepted historical account of his life, ( the Holy Bible ), is nothing more than a peice of highly cynical propagander.

All things considered there's little wonder there's so much anti Jesus/Christian feeling in some parts of the world.
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Thanks Pete, that means a lot coming from you.


Still, I don't get the whole deal. Why did the Anglo crusaders pick up this Jewish guy they didn't know much about and wage war on the world with him as the mascot. You would think they would use a social-philosipher from Italy or France or something. But no, they picked a Jew.

Strangely, Jews don't respect him in nearly the same way.

That's like people from Manchester not paying attention to Manchester United and rooting for Ronaldhino exclusively. Or someone from Boston not rooting for the Red Sox but instead they become fans of The Yankees and put Derek Jeter on their wall with some candles lit underneath the frame.

Why did this happen?
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One thing that is always overlooked. Obviously an over simplification, but on the right track.


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I read somewhere that the 'real' reason why the Jews condamned Jesus (or at least one of the reasons) was because he commited the 'holy crime' by getting into a temple and writting down the name of God (which contained not less then 250 letters or something)on a piece of paper and cut opened his inner thigh and slipped the paper inside the wound. When he got out of the temple he read the unmentionable name and then was blessed with the power of accomplishing 'miracles' which for the Jews meant dealing with a power that didnt belong to human beings. That was part of the mystical part of Juddaism. Anyway I dont know if that is correct but I found this pretty interesting.
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I read somewhere that the 'real' reason why the Jews condamned Jesus (or at least one of the reasons) was because he commited the 'holy crime' by getting into a temple and writting down the name of God (which contained not less then 250 letters or something)on a piece of paper and cut opened his inner thigh and slipped the paper inside the wound. When he got out of the temple he read the unmentionable name and then was blessed with the power of accomplishing 'miracles' which for the Jews meant dealing with a power that didnt belong to human beings. That was part of the mystical part of Juddaism. Anyway I dont know if that is correct but I found this pretty interesting.

That's a great story. Now expand that story to about 350 pages and you have a bestseller on your hands. See Dan Brown for details.
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That's a great story. Now expand that story to about 350 pages and you have a bestseller on your hands. See Dan Brown for details.
Um, sorry if you're talking about that davinci code guy, I havent read the book OR see the movie because it never interested me. I guess it is a coincidence that I happened to get the same fragment of info in the movie in a book ive read 10 years ago.
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Thanks Pete, that means a lot coming from you.


Still, I don't get the whole deal. Why did the Anglo crusaders pick up this Jewish guy they didn't know much about and wage war on the world with him as the mascot. You would think they would use a social-philosipher from Italy or France or something. But no, they picked a Jew.

Strangely, Jews don't respect him in nearly the same way.

That's like people from Manchester not paying attention to Manchester United and rooting for Ronaldhino exclusively. Or someone from Boston not rooting for the Red Sox but instead they become fans of The Yankees and put Derek Jeter on their wall with some candles lit underneath the frame.

Why did this happen?

The early crusaders were'nt really interested in Jesus Christ per see but more about his alledged lineage, ( supposedly going right back to the Biblical King David or even further into the dynastic Kings and Queens of ancient Egypt), and their constant forays into the Holy Land were more fact finding missions rather than for conquest and booty, ( although they did seem to fill their swag bags as well from time to time )

In time the crusaders became a more organised and larger body of Knights and eventualy became known as the Knights Templars and in due course they started to infuriate the Roman Catholic Church by proclaiming they alone knew the secrets of J.C's life and ministry and pretty well pooh poohed much of the Roman Catholic Dogma.

Eventually the Vatican could stand the Templars antics and attitude no longer and on one fatefull knight on Friday the 13th*, ( sometime in the 13th century - exact year escapes me ), they embarked on a huge campaign of torture and murder against the Templars and their allies. However the Templars were resourcefull and many of them escaped the wrath of the Vatican army and dispersed and hid themselves around Europe , ( alledgedly taking a shit load of esorteric knowlege and artifacts with them ).

Some say the Templars eventually turned into the organisation known the world over today as the Freemasons, ( many of America's founding fathers were alledged Freemasons.......the masonic symbol of the Pyramid with the "all seeing eye" even pops up on the back of a dollar bill does'nt it )

Anywho back to J.C, and why the Jews don't seem to have much time for him - Although there are many theories as to why, my opinion is that they knew him for what he really was - a decendant of a once powerfull royal dynasty who was acting out the Old Testament prophesy of "the coming of the messia" to reestablish his families rulership of the Jewish Nation. If true then this of course could help explain why the Roman Catholic Church has allways had such a downer on Jews.


* - if you ever wondered why Friday the 13th is allways classed as an unlucky date know you know
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The early crusaders were'nt really interested in Jesus Christ per see but more about his alledged lineage, ( supposedly going right back to the Biblical King David or even further into the dynastic Kings and Queens of ancient Egypt), and their constant forays into the Holy Land were more fact finding missions rather than for conquest and booty, ( although they did seem to fill their swag bags as well from time to time )

In time the crusaders became a more organised and larger body of Knights and eventualy became known as the Knights Templars and in due course they started to infuriate the Roman Catholic Church by proclaiming they alone knew the secrets of J.C's life and ministry and pretty well pooh poohed much of the Roman Catholic Dogma.

Eventually the Vatican could stand the Templars antics and attitude no longer and on one fatefull knight on Friday the 13th*, ( sometime in the 13th century - exact year escapes me ), they embarked on a huge campaign of torture and murder against the Templars and their allies. However the Templars were resourcefull and many of them escaped the wrath of the Vatican army and dispersed and hid themselves around Europe , ( alledgedly taking a shit load of esorteric knowlege and artifacts with them ).

Some say the Templars eventually turned into the organisation known the world over today as the Freemasons, ( many of America's founding fathers were alledged Freemasons.......the masonic symbol of the Pyramid with the "all seeing eye" even pops up on the back of a dollar bill does'nt it )

Anywho back to J.C, and why the Jews don't seem to have much time for him - Although there are many theories as to why, my opinion is that they knew him for what he really was - a decendant of a once powerfull royal dynasty who was acting out the Old Testament prophesy of "the coming of the messia" to reestablish his families rulership of the Jewish Nation. If true then this of course could help explain why the Roman Catholic Church has allways had such a downer on Jews.


* - if you ever wondered why Friday the 13th is allways classed as an unlucky date know you know
Holy shit. Nice post. I really didn't expect an answer like that in this thread.
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No probs, if you ever fancy researching how the historical record of Jesus Christ and Christianity has been warped and distorted by time and lies then I would recomend the following reading to ya ....

Jesus Christ - Last of The Great Pharo's by Ralph Ellis - IMHO one of the most underated authors in this field.

The Templar Revelation - Secret Gaurdians of The True Identity of Christ by Lynne Picknet and Clive Prince - No wonder the Catholic Church tried to destroy the Templars years ago.....they must have been shitting themselves

Talisman - Sacred Cities, Secret Faith by Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval - A huge tour de force of history exposing the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Roman Catholic Church against anyone who stood in their way and some very suprising conclusions regarding the founding of The United States of America.


LOL, one word of warning though - this subject can be addictive, once you start reading books like these you'll just want to learn more and more
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