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Old 07-29-2006, 10:55 PM   #1
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KRL..... 4472 and 2257

You should post your thoughts on this. You seem to always have pretty insightful thoughts about issues.

You think someone will go to jail for posting a naked picture without ids? What about sites like images.yahoo.com, tgp's, affiliates, etc.

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Old 07-29-2006, 11:24 PM   #2
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I definitely think the entire industry needs to be cleaned up. There is way too much free porn on the Net and way too many kids getting exposed to it either in adult e-mail spam or with all the galleries and samples out there. But the US certainly can't police the entire Internet. Its an impossible task. So I don't see a really viable solution. People like and want porn.

To come after the industry over recordkeeping is just a political right wing appeasement tactic. I don't think any producer in their right mind would hire someone to be in a porn movie or do a photo shoot without getting all their ID's, etc. So I don't see it being very beneficial for the DOJ, because adult prosecutions are notoriously very difficult and time consuming to prosecute.

I think the guys creating extremely hardcore stuff shouldn't be doing that shit. It just creates more problems for the whole industry.

I think the chatroom perverts that show up at kids houses, like they've been showing and nabbing on NBC's perverted justice investigative series need to be put away for a long time. Those fucks have serious problems and most have jobs with access to kids so they are especially dangerous. This is where the DOJ should be focused right now, not out chasing records.

Bottom line result of this new effort will be to weed out a lot of small webmasters.

I think adult will always be a solid industry, but more and more regulations lie ahead and the cost and risks of doing business will continue to increase.

Personally, mainstream is where everyone should be investing anyways. There are lots more opportunities, a much wider audience to sell to, no hassles, and if you get lucky you can really get some great scores.
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Old 07-29-2006, 11:40 PM   #3
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Old 07-29-2006, 11:41 PM   #4
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I think the guys creating extremely hardcore stuff shouldn't be doing that shit. It just creates more problems for the whole industry.
I call bs. Even if all "regular" hardcore is deleted from every server worldwide there will still be these idiots that think that naked boobs are pure evil.

and also: Give em something to bring down so they can brag with their succes. If they can bring down some double fisting scat sites the pressure is of the kettle. If the extreme hardcore producers just stop they will need to bring something else down....
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:16 AM   #5
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I had a friend tell me once that if the auto industry, Ford, Chevy, Toyota, etc. assulted his computer like the porn industry does, he would walk or ride a horse.

For many people we are annoying, gross, and not erotic in any way. So much of the aggressively marketed porn is targeted to a very small demographic. Is adult content the real issue? Or is it the type of content?

If the guys in Florida were running solo girl sites would they have been busted? Hell, I find the site semi-offensive.

Yes we need to make a stand ... But I can see the other sides point.
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:20 AM   #6
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I call bs. Even if all "regular" hardcore is deleted from every server worldwide there will still be these idiots that think that naked boobs are pure evil.

and also: Give em something to bring down so they can brag with their succes. If they can bring down some double fisting scat sites the pressure is of the kettle. If the extreme hardcore producers just stop they will need to bring something else down....

I agree. However it sure would be easier to defend and defeat less extreme content. You might even get some of the public behind you.
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:23 AM   #7
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krl. mentor me in your mainstream ways. i throw myself at your mercy.

heh.. going to fl bro? lets get sauced
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Old 07-30-2006, 02:34 AM   #8
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I definitely think the entire industry needs to be cleaned up. There is way too much free porn on the Net and way too many kids getting exposed to it either in adult e-mail spam or with all the galleries and samples out there. But the US certainly can't police the entire Internet. Its an impossible task. So I don't see a really viable solution. People like and want porn.

To come after the industry over recordkeeping is just a political right wing appeasement tactic. I don't think any producer in their right mind would hire someone to be in a porn movie or do a photo shoot without getting all their ID's, etc. So I don't see it being very beneficial for the DOJ, because adult prosecutions are notoriously very difficult and time consuming to prosecute.

I think the guys creating extremely hardcore stuff shouldn't be doing that shit. It just creates more problems for the whole industry.

I think the chatroom perverts that show up at kids houses, like they've been showing and nabbing on NBC's perverted justice investigative series need to be put away for a long time. Those fucks have serious problems and most have jobs with access to kids so they are especially dangerous. This is where the DOJ should be focused right now, not out chasing records.

Bottom line result of this new effort will be to weed out a lot of small webmasters.

I think adult will always be a solid industry, but more and more regulations lie ahead and the cost and risks of doing business will continue to increase.

Personally, mainstream is where everyone should be investing anyways. There are lots more opportunities, a much wider audience to sell to, no hassles, and if you get lucky you can really get some great scores.
That's a pretty good analysis :-) We have a real nice mainstream project on the boards, but we'll still always do dating, we love it.
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:51 AM   #9
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:57 AM   #10
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I call bs. Even if all "regular" hardcore is deleted from every server worldwide there will still be these idiots that think that naked boobs are pure evil.

and also: Give em something to bring down so they can brag with their succes. If they can bring down some double fisting scat sites the pressure is of the kettle. If the extreme hardcore producers just stop they will need to bring something else down....

won't even be anything to worry about after we bend over backwards to make the muslims feel good about themselves . .
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Old 07-30-2006, 07:12 AM   #11
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i dont see why dating sites would have a problem with 2257
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Old 07-30-2006, 07:17 AM   #12
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I definitely think the entire industry needs to be cleaned up. There is way too much free porn on the Net and way too many kids getting exposed to it either in adult e-mail spam or with all the galleries and samples out there. But the US certainly can't police the entire Internet. Its an impossible task. So I don't see a really viable solution. People like and want porn.

To come after the industry over recordkeeping is just a political right wing appeasement tactic. I don't think any producer in their right mind would hire someone to be in a porn movie or do a photo shoot without getting all their ID's, etc. So I don't see it being very beneficial for the DOJ, because adult prosecutions are notoriously very difficult and time consuming to prosecute.

I think the guys creating extremely hardcore stuff shouldn't be doing that shit. It just creates more problems for the whole industry.

I think the chatroom perverts that show up at kids houses, like they've been showing and nabbing on NBC's perverted justice investigative series need to be put away for a long time. Those fucks have serious problems and most have jobs with access to kids so they are especially dangerous. This is where the DOJ should be focused right now, not out chasing records.

Bottom line result of this new effort will be to weed out a lot of small webmasters.

I think adult will always be a solid industry, but more and more regulations lie ahead and the cost and risks of doing business will continue to increase.

Personally, mainstream is where everyone should be investing anyways. There are lots more opportunities, a much wider audience to sell to, no hassles, and if you get lucky you can really get some great scores.
well said!
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Old 07-30-2006, 08:45 AM   #13
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i dont see why dating sites would have a problem with 2257
An honest site wouldn't. But many (most?) dating sites have fake profiles with sexually explicit photos. Since these profiles are created by the site, it's no different from other porn.
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Old 07-30-2006, 08:49 AM   #14
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parents should be responsible for their kids and not the whole world for them.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:29 AM   #15
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An honest site wouldn't. But many (most?) dating sites have fake profiles with sexually explicit photos. Since these profiles are created by the site, it's no different from other porn.

Very good point!

Sites like alt. would loose half their profiles.
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