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  • Peaches
    Old broad
    • Oct 2002
    • 13933

    #51
    I love a man whose ear lobes I can look through Plus he's great to sit next to when riding in Fred's car around San Diego

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    • Sean
      revolutionforce.com
      • Jun 2003
      • 2909

      #52
      6. Discuss the wacked out body modification crap you're into. pics
      11. Discuss what you did when you manfactured piercing jewelry.

      I don't know how much I will really write on this,
      but I will at least give the history on it. you can still google
      my name ?sean christian? with body piercing and get some
      stuff that i have written over the years.

      back in the middle to late eighties, northern California was a
      really weird place. most of us thought that punk rock was dead,
      and the gothic movement was really about over at the time. it
      was really cool to be as sexually freaky as you could, and Jane's
      Addiction ruled supreme. hip to be junkie sheik. so San Francisco
      was a really weird place to hang out. it was common for the
      twenty something crowd to be polygamous and to know as much
      as you could about the church of the subgenius, so you could put
      it down and say that it was ridiculous.

      so I would drive up to San Francisco from my home town of
      Sacramento and spend time with the freaks. at this time there
      was no professional piercing shop there, and a few people were
      just piercing out of their homes. the biggest house of this was
      Esther and Vaughn, who a few years later opened Body
      Manipulations. one of their friends was a good friend of mine,
      teun ebbers. I also new this guy named Jay that used to live in
      Sacto and moved to SF. he came back for a big party one night
      and was talking about how cool he was or whatever, and started
      talking about a cockring that he got put in. that was something
      that I had to see. so off we went to the bathroom and he pulled
      out a frenum piercing with a 12ga fixed bead ring in it. holyshit
      I thought that was the fucking coolest thing that I had ever seen
      and had to get one. so off to the city I went with him, and pierced
      in someone's house It was so the first piercing that I ever got, other
      than one earlobe with a safepin, was a 10ga frenum.

      shortly after that I wanted to find out if there was anyone in
      Sacramento doing the same thing, so I didn't have to go to SF.
      but the only thing in Sacto was a huge underground gay men's
      leather crowd. but there was one man that had been having
      piercing parties for years, and low and behold if I didn't find a
      way to get invited. he asked me to show up in boots, levis, and
      a wife beater. I swear to god it took me years to realize that I was
      the 'eye candy' at the party, young punk rocker with a shaved
      head in tight jeans at a leather party. but I guess that everyone
      knew that I was naïve to it, and nobody tried to play bad touch
      with the straight boy. but at those parties I started realizing some
      of the basics of piercing, really dirty bad piercing, but piercing
      never the less. now I know that it was more of a S&M cutter's
      scene, and just some cock torcher. but there were more than
      enough guys around that would let you practice genital piercings.

      so after a few years of dirty freaky deaky, both Body M and
      Gauntlet were open in SF, and I started hearing about a woman
      branding and piercing in the area also. I would go up to Body
      M a few times a month and see what they were doing and try
      to learn more about it all. at that point the jewelry was just
      too expensive to get pierced much. a retail captive bead ring
      was close to fifty dollars. so to get a hole in you, there was
      big money to be dropped for a young guy. but one of my
      SF friends moved to sacramento and started piercing out of
      a tattoo shop that was opening there. his name was mike hare
      and the shop was called the exotic body. he made some jewelry
      there, and there was another guy in sacramento that started making
      jewelry named scott rogers. scott was going up to Body M and
      trying to get them to buy his rings, but they were very picky
      about jewelry. I think that they had to see five of six sample
      runs before they would buy a ring from him, but it pushed a few
      him into making really nice rings. around the same time, I decided
      that I want to move to the desert and find myself. so off to texas
      I went.

      I was living in El Paso and hacking people out of my house,
      and every once in a blue moon driving to Dallas to get pierced.
      there was one piercing shop there, and it was in a book store.
      it was called skin and bones, and I got my nipples pierced there
      in tandem. allen falkner (masumi max?s exhusband) hooked me up,
      and I took what ever I learned there and went back to el paso and
      worked in a small shop. texas was short lived, and I wanted to go
      back to California. so I moved home and started working with
      scott rogers making jewelry and have huge piercing parties out
      of my house. we would have one a month, and invite everyone
      over. scott and I would pierce as many people that would come
      over, and we really didn't do that good of a job.

      we started really getting scotts company rolling, and started a piercing
      shop called Sub Q. at the time it was the second shop in Sacto, behind
      mike hare's shop. both scot and I knew that we couldn't handle the
      piercing shop on our own, so we got my old friend from SF, teun ebbers
      to move to Sacto. he had moved to his old home town, Kansas city and
      was piercing at a tattoo shop there call Grim's. there was quite a few
      shops in SF by then, and there was one in santa cruz with this guy
      named Eric Dakota. we would trade him captive bead rings for needles
      that he had made for him. teun was a surgery field technician in the
      air force, so he knew quite a bit about making a place as clean as you
      could with what you had, and taught me how to stop cross contaminating
      things. for quite some time we just rocked that piercing shop and had
      a great time with it. we were friends with this cat in Arizona at the
      time named steve 'the devil' hayworth. we used to ask him to make
      us weird shit when we were doing projects. at the same time, a new
      shop opened in SF called nomad. both teun and I knew blake and
      christian, so we would bounce ideas off each of them and they would
      do some of the same.

      we kind of worked out a few idea's that using heavy cleaning agents
      might not be the best idea, so both shops started telling clients to
      use dr. bronner's castile soap. teun and blake both thought that salt
      water soaks would help with the drying of the skin. so that went into
      the aftercare. if it was a friend of ours, we just told them to leave it

      alone and it would heal fine, if it got infected, soak it then. around
      this
      same time, California started talking about getting some legislation
      about body piercing. that freaked everyone out. Sub Q was only a
      few blocks from the capitol building, so I would go over there and talk
      to the staff in the senator's office that was putting the bill through.
      (side note, most of the above shops were using ET jewelry including
      me) Body M, Gauntlet, Nomad, and Fakir could not come to one mind
      about aftercare and skin prep. everyone was nervous about the state just
      outlawing piercing, so they decided to start an organization call the
      APP to help out with lobbying and solve some of these disputes.
      Mike hare was going to a few of the meetings and was going to
      get a board position, as almost everyone that was going to be in
      the APP was going to have a position since there were very few
      of them that were even willing to do it.

      I was offered something then, blake asked me to be involved. I told
      him that it was a San Francisco scrap that I didn't have the time to
      get into. "decide what you want, and I will go to the senator's office
      for you" it was a fun time trying to learn the right way to do things,
      and we really didn't do it right. what did I learn out of all that?
      Drama is dumb. don't use that big ass needle, and for god's sake, don't
      put a taper behind it. its really easy to get burned out quick. Teun quit
      the shop and decided to move home to become a nurse. I hung in as long
      as I could, but scott and I were of two different minds when it came
      to technique. I had to do something else. I didn't want to work for him
      anymore, and I didn't like rockstar piercers anymore. so I decided
      to start a small company with a few friends. Revolution Body Jewelry.
      make the best of the best, comprise nothing.

      that was a really fun ride for a few years, but i really thought that it
      would be a small company so I just became partners with everyone
      that I thought was going to be employed. me and two friends. you
      know the old saying, don't go into business with friends, well its
      true. we just had different visions of what we wanted. so it was easier
      for me to leave than to fight. at that time I had been going to
      different piercing shops all over the country to learn more about what
      people were doing.

      i sold that business to my two partners and left for santa cruz, ca
      to work at the largest manufacturing plant in the world at the
      time. it was called anatometal.
      -sean
      skype: sean.a.christian
      sean @ revolutionforce.com

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      • Sean
        revolutionforce.com
        • Jun 2003
        • 2909

        #53
        over all of this time, i met several very interesting people. one man
        that i was amazed by was fakir. www.bodyplay.com in his own
        rite and inside of this industry, he was and is considered a shaman.
        he is one of the first of what we really call ?modern primitives? he
        looked beyond some of the typical aspects of body modification
        and studied the history behind it. he did want to pierce his nose
        because he liked the way that it looked, but he also wanted to
        know the meaning of it and the history behind it. he was the first
        man that got me interested in body suspension and taught me
        his ideas of the spiritual aspect of it. i dont know how much
        i personally believe in what he was seeking, but i did
        respect the fact that he was on a path and he was interested
        in finding out if there was more behind it all.

        what i did take from him was a huge interest in suspension
        that i still have to the day. i really dont like the public veiwed
        side of it, the fanfare that is around it now, but i still have
        a love for it. and i few hooks still at my house.

        ok that was a long weird story. i guess that the short part
        of it that i at least witnessed, if not helped out a little, in
        most of the early parts of the professional piercing industry
        and ended up working in the field for well over a decade.
        i was part of setting standard, and writing laws. but in the
        end... i made cockrings and put them in people. this was
        the industry that i was in when lars andi first became
        friends, and it was the industry that i left to work for him.

        oddly, i think that the two industries have quite a bit in
        common and what i learned from one, i was able to take
        to the other. both industries are sparked by people who
        have lived outside of certain lines that society as a whole
        have drawn. i see the adult internet industry started and
        fueled by computer geeks that would sit and tweak with
        the thing that they have fun with. they figured out a way
        to make a living doing it, a job out of their hobby. i bet
        that there is a huge chunk of people in this industry that
        do not have formal business training or education. same
        thing with the piercing industry. we wanted jobs doing
        what we liked to do, we wanted to make a living at it
        in our own and in our own time. so we learned these business
        skills just out of necessity. it gives an awesome perspective
        of being creative, since we really were never told about
        guidelines that we should stay inside of.
        -sean
        skype: sean.a.christian
        sean @ revolutionforce.com

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        • Sean
          revolutionforce.com
          • Jun 2003
          • 2909

          #54

          i dated this girl for some time and put hooks in her


          north shore


          notice the seven seconds shirt on my friend


          wearing gloves while putting huge hooks in a man, in the dirt


          different girl's turn


          dont worry, she was ok


          last, but not least. having a party with a few friends. why not let them put some hooks in my back and pull me up on chains
          -sean
          skype: sean.a.christian
          sean @ revolutionforce.com

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          • Sean
            revolutionforce.com
            • Jun 2003
            • 2909

            #55

            allen falkner


            his mife masumi


            angel www.buckangel.com his wife


            some of the kids from infinte in philly


            she is an old friend


            fakir and i


            they have only give out a few
            -sean
            skype: sean.a.christian
            sean @ revolutionforce.com

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            • J$tyle$
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Apr 2003
              • 11500

              #56
              Damn Sean! This is my new favorite Ambush, brotha!

              Let's catch up on today's conversation in Florida ... but please send me an LOI before then!

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              • Vitasoy
                GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                • Oct 2003
                • 58202

                #57
                I am all eyes on this one


                [email protected]

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                • Poppy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 6254

                  #58
                  Sean is a great guy. Always a pleasure to be around.
                  VP Sales, Peak5Payments
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                  In adult since 98'

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                  • JFK
                    FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 67373

                    #59

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                    • Lazonby
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 2262

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                      2. What's your beef with St. Patrick's Day?

                      fucking roman catholics from england. does anyone even know the
                      real story about all of that? there were no snakes. stop with the snakes.
                      patrick was a brit that was slaved by the romans, sent to ireland to
                      watch sheep and went insane. on the other hand, he did start a
                      movement of monks that did save most written language. they
                      were irish monks.

                      later in the 1800s the irish americans did use the holiday to show
                      some rights, but the press would illustrate them later as drunks
                      and monkeys. the irish have always been treated as inferiors and
                      discriminated against. they were slaved all the way into the 1700s.
                      There are records of irish sold as slaves in 1664 to the french ,
                      and english ships which made a stop in ireland in route to the
                      americas, typically had a cargo of irish to sell on into the 18th century.
                      few people today realize that from 1600 to 1699, far more irish were sold
                      as slaves than africans. all the this started really with patrick bringing
                      the catholic religion to ireland.
                      i see concerts and stickers everywhere that say ?free tibet? but i
                      really dont see that many that say ?free ireland?. the idea of having
                      a holiday to celebrate the beginning of the downfall of an entire
                      country, because they were convinced that christianity and being
                      passive was the correct way... ya... not really into it. when you raise
                      your glass and wear green, remember that ireland is still not free.

                      never forget bobby sands.


                      i might go back to this one again.
                      All of the Island of Ireland used to belong to the British. I say you should give it them back.

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                      • JFK
                        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 67373

                        #61

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                        • SleazyDream
                          I'm here for SPORT
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 41470

                          #62
                          wow - very interesting!
                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                          Now read without the word dog.

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                          • JFK
                            FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 67373

                            #63

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                            • rhon23
                              Rebel Girl
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 3274

                              #64
                              wow you knew Fakir. Now thats amazing.

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                              • Elli
                                Reach for those stars!
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 17991

                                #65


                                I had no idea! Congratulations!
                                email: [email protected]

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                                • lulu36
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2005
                                  • 1332

                                  #66
                                  That's awesome on the APP award. Interesting read. I'm looking forward to more.
                                  Lulu, Web Marketing Consultant
                                  icq 405 731 449

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                                  • Penthouse Tony
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2004
                                    • 5835

                                    #67
                                    keep going sean. you've only just begun
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                                    • Sean
                                      revolutionforce.com
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 2909

                                      #68
                                      7. What's it like to live in a house with 5 guys?

                                      if you really want to see what i do and how i live, you can
                                      check out my http://www.ilikesean.com there are pics of my house,
                                      my friends, places i go, things i do and a lot of you.

                                      there was a short time that i lived by myself. i think it was about
                                      six months, from moving out of my parents house, until i ended
                                      up with housemates. since then, i have always lived in a cooperative
                                      situation. a few times a week we cook together, we clean the house
                                      once a week together, we shop for food together (for the few times
                                      that i eat at home)

                                      most of the time they have been dry, semi-straight edge houses.
                                      i use tobacco, one of the boys eats meat, things like that. most
                                      of the time, we move together as a group. its not always just guys,
                                      there is a punk rock girl or two that has been in the mix over
                                      the years, but for the most its a house full of guys. as i type this
                                      on a laptop, there is a band in my living room and i think that
                                      we are all going to eat tofu scrabble burritos. after that, one of
                                      the boys is going to help someone with his car and i have to
                                      go with the other boy to his business that he owns and help him
                                      with some contracts. ( i know about LOI now)

                                      i really like living in a cooperative. its a ideal of community in
                                      certain aspects. sometimes its a little much when you want a
                                      quite place to watch a movie alone, like when i came home to
                                      find the entire band ?the exploited? in my living room, i think
                                      that last week it was ?go to hell?, and it makes me think that i
                                      really dont need to do this and i can afford to not live here. but
                                      then there are other moments that i like the fact that we can
                                      provide, as group, for each member and for others. we also have
                                      an open home to our community of friends. this is the house
                                      that everyone gets together to watch movies. we have dinner
                                      parties over here a few times a year. when there is a holiday,
                                      and there are people in town that do not have family here, they
                                      come to my place and we all cook together and have a meal.

                                      so for about nineteen years now, i have lived in a household
                                      full of people, four different towns, two different states. at one
                                      point i even moved an entire household of boys from california
                                      to texas. one day i might grow up and get my own room.


                                      he is not really that hard


                                      tv party tonight, tv party tonight.. we got nothing better to do


                                      he spends a lot of time on his hair


                                      i like orange


                                      and buliding lofts. its kind of like having a fort to sleep in


                                      sometimes the houses are a little 70's


                                      that loft really didnt work out well


                                      holiday potluck. i made everyone wear ice hockey jerseys


                                      we end up with a lot of food sometimes


                                      its hard to make your dining room look like your grandmas


                                      thanksgiving morning


                                      desert potluck


                                      she got married and decided to move.


                                      party in the yard


                                      we used to live above the tattoo shop of course


                                      and there are always lots of stickers on stuff

                                      if you ever need a couch to crash on in santa cruz, you can always have ours
                                      -sean
                                      skype: sean.a.christian
                                      sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                      • Peaches
                                        Old broad
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 13933

                                        #69
                                        OMG, I get the heebie jeebies when I cut myself shaving my legs!!

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                                        • Sean
                                          revolutionforce.com
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 2909

                                          #70
                                          sagi has corrected me. he doesnt know what a LOI is either. kathleen sends me text messages that have LOI's in them now. luckly, i think that there are a good amout of people at AFF that do know what those types of things are.
                                          all and all, it has been nothing less that a major learning curve for me.
                                          -sean
                                          skype: sean.a.christian
                                          sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                          • Dwreck
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 7362

                                            #71
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                                            • MikeHawk
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 6683

                                              #72
                                              Great one....
                                              Now these 2 fuckers make laugh my ass off every time i see them...and even when i dont to think of them...lol Great people....The Pimp is "the man"







                                              Character...
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                                              • Dwreck
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                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 7362

                                                #73
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                                                • Dwreck
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 7362

                                                  #74
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                                                  • Sean
                                                    revolutionforce.com
                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 2909

                                                    #75
                                                    8. You worked in rock and roll for years. Is that a fancy way of saying you were a groupie?

                                                    birthday party tonight, not mine. i will get to this one before bed for sure
                                                    -sean
                                                    skype: sean.a.christian
                                                    sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                    • J$tyle$
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 11500

                                                      #76


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                                                      • Harley Girl
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                        • 864

                                                        #77
                                                        Where do i start....
                                                        Sean is by far one of my favorite people i see at shows. There is never a dull moment, always making us laugh.
                                                        There is so much i didn't know about Sean's past but having read the replies so far, i have just gained so much more respect for him. A great guy to know and be around... I can't wait to hang with ya in our Cabana next week.

                                                        Lars, Sean, Fred, Sagi, Elli .... much love to all of you!

                                                        xoxox
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                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 41470

                                                          #78
                                                          bump just because
                                                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                                          • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                            Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                            • 38323

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                            6. Discuss the wacked out body modification crap you're into. pics

                                                            this might have to wait until later. the english beat are playing in town tonight and i must go
                                                            Ska!!! Dave Wakeling and the English Beat current line-up will be in San Jose on August 10th, doing a FREE Concert in the Park...

                                                            Can't wait to hear "Save It For Later" and "Mirror in the Bathroom" live one more time...

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                                                            • Sean
                                                              revolutionforce.com
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 2909

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Harley Girl
                                                              Where do i start....
                                                              Sean is by far one of my favorite people i see at shows. There is never a dull moment, always making us laugh.
                                                              There is so much i didn't know about Sean's past but having read the replies so far, i have just gained so much more respect for him. A great guy to know and be around... I can't wait to hang with ya in our Cabana next week.

                                                              Lars, Sean, Fred, Sagi, Elli .... much love to all of you!

                                                              xoxox

                                                              we are going to have a lot of fun this year in florida
                                                              -sean
                                                              skype: sean.a.christian
                                                              sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                              • Sean
                                                                revolutionforce.com
                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                • 2909

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                                Ska!!! Dave Wakeling and the English Beat current line-up will be in San Jose on August 10th, doing a FREE Concert in the Park...

                                                                Can't wait to hear "Save It For Later" and "Mirror in the Bathroom" live one more time...

                                                                ADG Webmaster

                                                                he sounds fucking perfect singing save it for later. he voice has got back to what it used to be.
                                                                -sean
                                                                skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                • Sean
                                                                  revolutionforce.com
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 2909

                                                                  #82
                                                                  so being a drunk skater kid in the eighties, i of
                                                                  course fell in love with punk rock. i could not get enough.
                                                                  i would make up excuses to sneak out of my parents suburban
                                                                  home and i would go to shows all the time in downtown
                                                                  sacramento, ca. even though the shows were cheap at that
                                                                  time, it was getting a little hard for a kid to come up with
                                                                  beer money and enough to get into the club.

                                                                  what did i do? i talked to the promoter of the venue and asked
                                                                  if i could work out a way to get in for free. i told him that i would
                                                                  pass out flyers for the show at my school and to all of my friend,
                                                                  and that i would put posters up in my area of town. in return,
                                                                  i would get put on the guest list at the show with at least one of
                                                                  my friends. i thought that it made look like a big shot and i
                                                                  also could split the work with someone.

                                                                  it went so well, that he started paying me to help promote the
                                                                  shows. and that is where a lot of years started.

                                                                  i worked with him for a long time, oddly doing punk rock shows
                                                                  and dance nights in any venue that we could get. we finally found
                                                                  a place that would give us three nights a week. they would get
                                                                  all the bar, and we would get all the door. strangely enough, it was
                                                                  a gay bar in sacramento. a place called bo jangles. we really could
                                                                  not call it that on the nights that we were doing shows there, so
                                                                  we called it Club Me. thought that it was funny.

                                                                  punk started dying off quite a bit in the later eighties, and really
                                                                  the only thing that was selling was hard rock and metal shows.
                                                                  it was never really my cup of tea. so we wanted to reinvent the
                                                                  club again, and a few nights a month, we called it the cattle club
                                                                  (music that was meant to be heard). four nights a week with live
                                                                  music then and one night a week we were still doing dance.

                                                                  the cattle club really focused more on alternative music at the
                                                                  time, and was too hip for its own good. there was an uncanny
                                                                  knack of getting bands there right before they got big. so we
                                                                  ended up losing money on a lot of shows. google that with
                                                                  sacramento, and it will tell you the story better than i can. it was
                                                                  a little crappy sweatbox bar that could cram 200 people in it
                                                                  if we were lucky. there were more than a few nights that we
                                                                  would figure a way to put double that in there. so many great
                                                                  bands. remember this was a small shit box club. social distortion,
                                                                  pearl jam, nirvana, alice in chains, mud honey, primus, janes,
                                                                  lush, ride, the list goes on and on.

                                                                  during most of this time when i was making a living as
                                                                  a live music promoter, i really started digging into the
                                                                  largest promotion company on the west coast, bill graham
                                                                  presents. i used to carry a photo of the man with me in my
                                                                  wallet, somewhat of a joke, but i would show it to people
                                                                  and tell them that is what i wanted to become. so i started
                                                                  moonlighting a little over there also.

                                                                  just so we have the roll call right. i was promotion at three
                                                                  different address at the time, working for BGP, and i was
                                                                  trying to hold a little bit of a day job also.

                                                                  i wanted to consolidate this effort and knew that i needed
                                                                  to move to a bigger venue than that. i started managing and
                                                                  promoting a club that we renamed ?the edge? and worked
                                                                  there until i moved to texas.

                                                                  when i came back to california, piercing almost full time, i
                                                                  was still trying to do a little live music on the side also just
                                                                  because i loved it so much still. i ended up working quite a
                                                                  bit with bill graham presents again, but the story of why i
                                                                  left there is almost too long to tell. the short of it was that
                                                                  bill had been dead for a few years, and the company did not
                                                                  hold to the integrity and standard that he always made sure
                                                                  was a part of each and every event that he put on. make no
                                                                  bones. he was the one that put together the first lallopolooza.
                                                                  the first guy that understood how huge alternative music
                                                                  could be.

                                                                  when i left there, to satisfy my craving, i just started touring
                                                                  with bands. road managing, sound tech, and even just simple
                                                                  production on the road. i would only go out with guys that i
                                                                  knew and liked. i did not want to babysit a bunch of drunk
                                                                  asshole rockstars. so i ended up going out with a lot of medium
                                                                  sized punk bands. but my favorite tour was in 94? with
                                                                  7 seconds and the bouncing souls. youth brigade and screw 32
                                                                  was a lot of fun, but 7 seconds will always be the best.




                                                                  the fluid was a favorite of mine


                                                                  victims family is a great band if you have never heard them


                                                                  NOFX headling a small show that we did. five bands for five bucks


                                                                  evlis is everywhere. i have a photo of me and mojo with no pants on somewhere


                                                                  buck was shot by an old man feeding birds in the park


                                                                  there are plenty of people that are descendants purists, but i love ALL also


                                                                  mudhoney on a sunday night


                                                                  primus could not headline a saturnight show at the time


                                                                  i would date a girl that remembers that band. bigger show at the dance place





                                                                  and one of the first dance nights that i did on my own. i was
                                                                  still not even old enough to get into the bar
                                                                  -sean
                                                                  skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                  sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                  • lulu36
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    sunday am bump
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                                                                    • Sexy Rex
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Got a few that are missing to that thread (thanks Aly). All the love in the world Sean




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                                                                        #85
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                                                                        • Jman
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          This is a great read ;-)
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                                                                          • Sean
                                                                            revolutionforce.com
                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                            • 2909

                                                                            #87
                                                                            10. What the fuck do Texans want with vintage guitars?

                                                                            after working in live music and the clubs for a good amount
                                                                            of my life at that moment, and still living in my home town,
                                                                            not really adventuring out of it, a close friend of mine since
                                                                            childhood got stationed in El Paso, Texas and was going to
                                                                            be there for the rest of his gig in the army. he was bummed
                                                                            about some of the decisions that he made, and was really
                                                                            homesick, so i decieded to load of some of the boys that
                                                                            i lived with and move all of us to Texas.

                                                                            rent was dirt cheap, it was right on the border of mexico,
                                                                            and i was ready for a change. leave the faster paced life
                                                                            that i was living and slow down a bit. i was in the middle
                                                                            of a really big swing in a different direction. i had been
                                                                            on the wagon for about a year, totally dry from drinking,
                                                                            i had stopped eating meat, and i was taking a hand full
                                                                            of political science classes mostly emphasizing in
                                                                            feminism and socialism. it was a strange chance to try
                                                                            coop living in a different place.

                                                                            very early nineties now, we had just got done trying to
                                                                            put together some outdoor dance parties on the west
                                                                            coast, nothing anyone had been doing really (raves) and
                                                                            i thought that texas might be a fun place to try something
                                                                            like that also. we loaded up a huge white can that we
                                                                            bought, took almost nothing but clothes and a few chairs
                                                                            since there were only two in the van, and after driving for
                                                                            thirty hours, ended up in the middle of the desert in a town
                                                                            that i really was not ready for.

                                                                            after sleeping off the drive, we ate a little food across from
                                                                            the hotel that we were staying at and i met a girl there that
                                                                            night that told me about the ?hip? club in town and said
                                                                            the next night was the night to go. about two months after
                                                                            that night i started dating that same girl and went out with
                                                                            her for almost three years.

                                                                            we went off to the club and it was a shock. we had been
                                                                            on the edge of the dance thing in cali, and texas was easily
                                                                            nine months behind everything that we had been doing.
                                                                            started talking to the dj there about music and such, he was
                                                                            all excited about the fact that someone there knew some of
                                                                            the bands that he was into, and asked me what i was going
                                                                            to do for a job in town. i told him that i had no idea and
                                                                            no plans, that i had not even been there a week yet. he
                                                                            gave me his card and told me to visit him at work the next
                                                                            day.

                                                                            turns out that he owned a vintage guitar shop and had been
                                                                            dealing guitars for years on end. he offered me and job and
                                                                            i told him that i knew nothing about old guitars, i just knew
                                                                            about music. he offered to teach me anything that i needed
                                                                            to know and told me that i would pick it up as we went along.
                                                                            that started something that i did for almost three years. it
                                                                            was a blast.

                                                                            we would go around the entire southwest to old pawn shops
                                                                            and estate sales. finding something hocked, or an old fender
                                                                            that someone played in his high school band. if the year was
                                                                            right, the finish was good, and the parts still original, we would
                                                                            buy a $500 guitar that we would flip the next week for $7500.
                                                                            he had a list of old rock and rollers that would collect, there
                                                                            would be places like the Hard Rock Cafe or high end music
                                                                            shops that would just buy guitars from us unseen just because
                                                                            of our reputation at the time.

                                                                            we made cash every week. traveled all the time. got to meet
                                                                            great guys that used to play in bands that would listen to on
                                                                            the radio, and we got to hang out with whatever big rock band
                                                                            at the time was in town playing and most of the time sell them
                                                                            something on top of it. the best out of that was when we got
                                                                            to spend time with U2 on the zoo tv tour. the sugar cubes and
                                                                            public enemy were on the bill also. it was nice to be able to
                                                                            meet the guys in U2, but i had always had a thing for bjork and
                                                                            got to spend a few nights with her.

                                                                            eventually i got burned on living in the desert. no trees, everything
                                                                            was brown, the summers were too hot, i missed northern califonia.
                                                                            but i did get to take few great stories with me and i did get to
                                                                            deal a few awesome pieces of music history. john lennon?s first
                                                                            vox ac30, one of elvis?s acoustic guitars, a few gretches that i
                                                                            wished that i had not sold, and more than one of the guitars from
                                                                            the rolling stones. there are still times that i look at the wall when
                                                                            i walk by a pawn shop just to see what they have, or stop and drive
                                                                            by a yard sale because i knew that was a neck from a 67? tele.

                                                                            -sean
                                                                            skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                            sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                            • lulu36
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              that's sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!!
                                                                              "but i did get to take few great stories with me and i did get to
                                                                              deal a few awesome pieces of music history. john lennon?s first
                                                                              vox ac30, one of elvis?s acoustic guitars, a few gretches that i
                                                                              wished that i had not sold, and more than one of the guitars from
                                                                              the rolling stones."
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                                                                              • Dwreck
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Busted making out in the playboy Grotto!

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                                                                                • JFK
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                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 67373

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by poppy
                                                                                  Sean is a great guy. Always a pleasure to be around.
                                                                                  Right On

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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    monday bump
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                                                                                    • BigB
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Sean is a Super Human.

                                                                                      Im always proud to call him friend.


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                                                                                      • Sean
                                                                                        revolutionforce.com
                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                        • 2909

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        9. What is tower records?

                                                                                        when i came back to california from texas, i was still piercing
                                                                                        but i never considered it a real job, even something that i would
                                                                                        want to do as a career. i still had money from the guitar gig and
                                                                                        i didnt want to sit on my ass too long, so i went out to find a
                                                                                        meanless job to pay taxes on. something that would fill the hours
                                                                                        in the day and make me feel like i was doing something while
                                                                                        i was reinventing myself. i was working for bill grahman presents
                                                                                        on and off, making jewelry and piercing out of my house at
                                                                                        the time, but none of it really felt solid. because of too many
                                                                                        weird books and college courses that would never go towards
                                                                                        a degree or job of any sort ( i was spelling woman with a Y at
                                                                                        the time to make sure that i was not using male dominated
                                                                                        language and was vegan), i felt like i needed to go back to some
                                                                                        sort of artist type existence.

                                                                                        sacramento is the corporate home of my favorite record store
                                                                                        chain, http://www.towerrecords.com and they keep all the main
                                                                                        warehouses there. in its time, it was a great store and the catalog
                                                                                        that they kept for a chain store was awesome. still at the top,
                                                                                        family owned and run, it was something that i could sign up for.
                                                                                        i didnt want to work in the music department, i was too much
                                                                                        of a snob at the time, so i went to work in the movie department.

                                                                                        i worked in the foreign and independent department of the video.
                                                                                        basicly what my job entailed was to review movies and decided
                                                                                        how many of them we were going to stock at which stores. i had
                                                                                        a job sitting around all day and watching movies. some might
                                                                                        think a dream come true.

                                                                                        i would watch almost nothing but abstract indy films and things
                                                                                        with subtitles. some of them amazing films, and got into to it
                                                                                        so much that i was talking movies home with me and watching
                                                                                        them there also. i was up to about five films a day, sometimes
                                                                                        six. black and whites. french. things that were three hours long
                                                                                        and had no speaking parts in them. director?s cuts of films that
                                                                                        were abstract to start with. i started going to critic showings of
                                                                                        new foreign films. going to showing where the director whould
                                                                                        be there for a question and answer after the film. not calling
                                                                                        them movies anymore, just calling it film. i had become a
                                                                                        movie art fag.

                                                                                        i left that job and went full bore into piercing afterwards, and
                                                                                        still to the day, i have a hard time going to an independent film.
                                                                                        i will look at it and think ?this is going to be a movie about two
                                                                                        gay Pakistani men living in london. one of their grandmothers
                                                                                        dies, and they have to walk across europe to get her rocking chair.
                                                                                        there will be long black and white shots of them staring at each
                                                                                        other not saying a word, just smoking filterless cigarettes. after
                                                                                        the movie is over, there will be a bunch of people out front
                                                                                        talking about how it touched them and how mainstream media
                                                                                        can never really be art?

                                                                                        after that, i will go home and watch adam sandler or bill murry
                                                                                        movie and eat ice cream just to shake off the thought of even
                                                                                        seeing something like that again. it almost makes me want to
                                                                                        eat meat and watch porn.
                                                                                        -sean
                                                                                        skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                                        sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                                        • Sean
                                                                                          revolutionforce.com
                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                          • 2909

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          12. What did you get a scholorship for? Why didn't you take it?

                                                                                          when i was in high school, i was a drunken punk rock skater piece
                                                                                          of shit pile. i mean i spent a lot of time vomiting during lunch breaks
                                                                                          when i was not getting into fights on campus with jocks. i picked
                                                                                          fights with teachers, counselors, couches. i spent time almost every
                                                                                          week in an office getting suspended or in detention.

                                                                                          oddly, though the whole process, i was in honor classes and got
                                                                                          straight grades. when i found out that public school systems had
                                                                                          to let all students try out for sports, i thought it would be the
                                                                                          most fucked up thing to make the football team just to be an
                                                                                          asshole to all the jocks that we were giving a hard time to. just
                                                                                          to ruin their little club. turns out that i was good at the sport and
                                                                                          ended up playing varsity for two years and a little more.

                                                                                          so there i was, major disciple problem, but an honor roll athlete.
                                                                                          the school didnt really know how to deal with me, so they let me
                                                                                          graduate early with a diploma instead of just expelling me.

                                                                                          this is the same time that i had been promoting shows and working
                                                                                          at a live music bar putting stuff together. every night i got to drink
                                                                                          at the bar after the front door closed, and every morning i was going
                                                                                          to first period history.

                                                                                          almost from nowhere, and i really didnt know, but i was offered
                                                                                          a scholorship for a private school. full ticket ride. so here is the
                                                                                          choice that i had in front of me. i had been going to school for
                                                                                          thirteen years straight, im not even eighteen yet, and i was looking
                                                                                          at moving out of my town and doing another six years.
                                                                                          rock and roll, or school? get to drink in a bar every night and
                                                                                          flirt with girls that were four or five years older than me?
                                                                                          move to a dorm room and start taking even more classes?
                                                                                          i turned it down flat and stayed in town. other than a few
                                                                                          classes here and there, i never went to school.
                                                                                          -sean
                                                                                          skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                                          sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                                          • Gentle_Ben
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Sean, seen you around, but havent gotten to meet you yet.

                                                                                            Sick Ambush man! I'm really enjoying it.

                                                                                            Look forward to meeting you at a show soon
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                                                                                            • JFK
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                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 67373

                                                                                              #96

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                                                                                              • Sean
                                                                                                revolutionforce.com
                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                • 2909

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Gentle_Ben
                                                                                                Sean, seen you around, but havent gotten to meet you yet.

                                                                                                Sick Ambush man! I'm really enjoying it.

                                                                                                Look forward to meeting you at a show soon

                                                                                                i will be in florida in a few days
                                                                                                -sean
                                                                                                skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                                                sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                                                • Sean
                                                                                                  revolutionforce.com
                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                  • 2909

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  13. Talk about your drinking days and why you quit?

                                                                                                  oh... nights through all the teenage years, drunk most the time,
                                                                                                  fighting, fucking, or a combination of them all. drinking before
                                                                                                  a show, drinking at the park or down by the beach. waiting
                                                                                                  until the front door of the bar closed, or back at someone?s
                                                                                                  house, high school keggers.

                                                                                                  one way or the other, i found myself drunk most nights night of
                                                                                                  the week. teenage rebel years right? its what you do.

                                                                                                  on the other side of things, i skipped college for the most because
                                                                                                  i didnt want the party to stop, i blacked out on more nights than
                                                                                                  not, fighting in the middle of the week, ending up in the hospital
                                                                                                  more times than i can count. pissing shitting and vomiting every
                                                                                                  which way that i turned. it started to become not so sexy and a
                                                                                                  little more of a problem really.

                                                                                                  most the behavior kept going the same way. at one time i was
                                                                                                  living in a house full of drunks, four guys in a one bedroom
                                                                                                  apartment, drinking in the middle of every day. walking up and
                                                                                                  needing a drink to stop a little shaking from the night before,
                                                                                                  and my health was starting to get a little weird. i was working
                                                                                                  at bars doing shows, it was ok that i was a drunk, it was the
                                                                                                  lifestyle at the time for me. rock and roll, drugs, and booze.

                                                                                                  some of the guys that i had run into around town, coffee shops
                                                                                                  and clubs, would help me with promotional stuff in exchange
                                                                                                  for guest list spots and such. i would go out with them to different
                                                                                                  clubs and shows promoting what we were doing, flirting with
                                                                                                  girls, having a good time, and i dont think that i ever noticed,
                                                                                                  but none of them drank at all. i was drunk, but they were not.

                                                                                                  at one point, one of the guys asked me if i thought that the way
                                                                                                  that i was living was a problem. at the time i think that i was
                                                                                                  about 125 pounds (im 175 right now) whiter than i was right
                                                                                                  now, and i would get nose bleeds constantly. i was starting to
                                                                                                  think that it was a problem.

                                                                                                  i decided to get on the wagon and try it all out dry instead of
                                                                                                  loaded. i would go two or three days at the most without
                                                                                                  drinking and then i would end up on a bender and try to start
                                                                                                  all over again. at one point i finally was able to give it up.

                                                                                                  i changed my entire lifestyle. i moved into a house with a
                                                                                                  group of guys that did not drink. i gave up the bar job and
                                                                                                  just focused on the larger club, and not too much time past that
                                                                                                  i made the move to texas so i could fully shut the door on what
                                                                                                  i thought was a life that was perfect and turned out to be something
                                                                                                  so incredibly demoralizing i didnt even really know who i was.

                                                                                                  i have not had a drink since that time, since that day. shortly after
                                                                                                  that is when i gave up eatting meat, started reading some political
                                                                                                  books, and really spent that time reinventing who i thought that
                                                                                                  i was.
                                                                                                  -sean
                                                                                                  skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                                                  sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                                                  • Sean
                                                                                                    revolutionforce.com
                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                    • 2909

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    14. Why the hell are you involved with the green party?

                                                                                                    well looking at a little of my past, i did punk rock shows out of a
                                                                                                    gay bar, i worked at dance clubs, i am a vegetarian, the obvious ideas
                                                                                                    that i got from my own surrounding ended up being a very liberal veiw
                                                                                                    of things.

                                                                                                    systematic wars overseas, increasing debt killing the middle class, senate
                                                                                                    hearings that are forgot about a few months down the line. convictions
                                                                                                    that had no real meaning, it was easy for me to identify the fact that our
                                                                                                    two party system, that our government itself, is flawed from the top to
                                                                                                    the bottom.

                                                                                                    i spent a few years lobbying in california for the party. pushing what
                                                                                                    i could. not really because i am all the ecominded, but it seems like
                                                                                                    our first strong shot at a third party.

                                                                                                    you can complain if you are not involved.

                                                                                                    one of the reasons that i like adult, oddly, is because i really believe
                                                                                                    it goes hard against the grain of the system. mostly, its a group of
                                                                                                    people that did not go through the process of ?higher education?
                                                                                                    which for the most produces quite a bit of debt at a young age to
                                                                                                    start working for a corporate machine that fuels the top level of
                                                                                                    economy it makes for a good redistribution of wealth. there are
                                                                                                    a lot of people that make a good amount of money that do not
                                                                                                    vote conservative for the most.

                                                                                                    and then, i also like the fact that so many people inside this industry
                                                                                                    are self made and self started.
                                                                                                    -sean
                                                                                                    skype: sean.a.christian
                                                                                                    sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                                                                    • Elli
                                                                                                      Reach for those stars!
                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                      • 17991

                                                                                                      #100






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