Smoking ban meets resistance in "tolerant" Germany :)

[digifan]

Lol... they are against the "Nazi" ban... interesting.

BERLIN (Reuters) - When a German magazine ran a story about new efforts to ban public smoking, the reactions of many of its non-smoking readers were fierce -- and surprising.

"I don't want to be deprived of the relaxed company of smokers in restaurants and bars," wrote David Harnasch of Freiburg in a letter to Der Spiegel weekly. "If my clothes stink of smoke, I can wash them -- where exactly is the problem?"

Yvonne Deim from Munich wrote: "Sitting in a smoke-filled room for a few hours bothers me less than it would if smokers were forced to get up every few minutes to go smoke outside."

Governments across Europe are cracking down on smoking in public places. But resistance to new limits is strong in Germany, where the right to smoke became a cherished mark of tolerance and freedom after World War Two.

Polls show a majority of the population and one in two non-smokers opposed a proposed ban on smoking in restaurants and bars.

Some politicians have said the proposals are too draconian, and Germany's powerful cigarette, restaurant and hotel lobbies are working to ensure they never see the light of day.

Der Spiegel made clear where it stood by putting a picture of a broken cigarette on its cover alongside the title "Smoking -- The End of Tolerance."

Lother Binding, a member of the parliament and a former smoker, stoked the debate by pressing for a new law that would ban smoking in all public places.

Binding, 56, told Reuters he felt compelled to press for stricter laws after reading a study from the Heidelberg-based German Cancer Research Center, which laid out in stark terms the dangers of "passive smoking" or second-hand smoke.

"That convinced me that the current law simply doesn't go far enough," he said, referring to a two-year-old measure to phase in no-smoking zones in hotels and restaurants.

EUROPEAN TREND

Nearly one in three German adults smokes regularly and close to 140,000 Germans die every year from tobacco-related illnesses -- far more than from traffic accidents, alcohol, drugs and
AIDS combined. Some studies estimate that 3,000-4,000 deaths per year can be attributed to passive smoking.

Binding's proposed ban is designed to cut those numbers and bring German law into line with many of its European partners.

Ireland imposed the world's first nationwide public smoking ban in 2004. Italy, Sweden, Scotland, Norway and Spain have followed suit in varying degrees. Belgium, Britain, Northern Ireland and Portugal are expected to introduce tight new rules next year.

But Binding faces a particularly daunting challenge in Germany, where tobacco taxes bring in over 14 billion euros ($17.6 billion) annually and where the political class is dominated by men and women of the "1968 generation" who fondly associate smoking with notions of freedom and risk.

Germany is the only country in the European Union that has ignored and actively fought a bloc ban on tobacco advertising.

German officials resisted imposing a smoking ban at World Cup matches this summer, even though such a ban existed at the 2002 tournament and is already planned for the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing and 2010 World Cup in South Africa.

The German railway operator Deutsche Bahn is one of the last in Europe to allow smoking on its trains. Over 600,000 outdoor cigarette vending machines sit on German streets, allowing people of all ages to buy packs 24 hours a day in a country where normal store hours are strictly regulated.

Some politicians support Binding's proposal, notably Agriculture and Consumer Protection Minister Horst Seehofer.

But others, including Social Democrat parliamentary leader Peter Struck and leading conservative Wolfgang Bosbach, say a ban in public places goes too far. Chancellor Angela Merkel, a former pack-a-day smoker, has voiced support for tougher laws but stopped short of endorsing an outright ban.

NAZI LEGACY

Robert Proctor, a professor at Stanford University and author of the book "The Nazi War on Cancer," says one reason the German anti-smoking movement is so weak is that it is tainted by the Nazis' hostility to smoking.

The Luftwaffe banned smoking in 1938 and a year later SS chief Heinrich Himmler did the same for all uniformed police and SS officers. Under the Nazis, smoking was barred in many workplaces, government offices, hospitals and rest homes.

Hitler, who didn't touch tobacco or alcohol, gave 100,000 Reichsmarks of his own money in 1941 to the world's first institute dedicated to the dangers of tobacco. Led by avid anti-smoker and anti-Semite Karl Astel, the institute produced the first comprehensive study linking smoking and lung cancer.

"After the war, the tobacco industry capitalised on the Nazi connection -- the idea that if Hitler did it then it must be terrible," Proctor said. "The anti-smoking movement in Germany was portrayed as intolerant and essentially fascist."

German per capita consumption of tobacco dropped by more than half between 1940 and 1950. But under the Marshall Plan, $1 billion of excess U.S. tobacco was shipped to Germany and smoking rates soon rose back to pre-war levels as lighting up became linked to new values of tolerance and freedom.

The tobacco industry still benefits from these associations.

Reemtsma, a unit of Imperial Tobacco Group and the third largest tobacco firm in Germany, said it opposed Binding's proposed ban and believed current legislation struck a better balance between the rights of smokers and non-smokers.

"We believe a general smoking ban is not the solution," said Reemtsma spokesman Sebastian Blohm. "There is no clear evidence that passive smoking leads to serious health problems. The risks are on a par with the risks to the brain from using mobile telephones. Neither are significant."

Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060626/...y_smoking_dc_1

[digifan]

Bump....

[Spunky]

Damn smokers should all be shot

[pr0]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Damn smokers should all be shot

Naa,...they should just be made to wear some sort of marking on their clothing, to let people know they might be lighting up soon

[herbalot]

"We believe a general smoking ban is not the solution," said Reemtsma spokesman Sebastian Blohm. "There is no clear evidence that passive smoking leads to serious health problems. The risks are on a par with the risks to the brain from using mobile telephones. Neither are significant." Retarded.

[digifan]

Originally Posted by herbalot

"We believe a general smoking ban is not the solution," said Reemtsma spokesman Sebastian Blohm. "There is no clear evidence that passive smoking leads to serious health problems. The risks are on a par with the risks to the brain from using mobile telephones. Neither are significant." Retarded.

[Dagwolf]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Damn smokers should all be shot

Yeah! Shoot the non-smokers too, before they can start. Then there'll NEVER be any more smokers.

[DWB]

smokers suck.. unless you are in Thailand when "smoking" is getting a blow job, then it rules!!!

[smack]

i may have to move to germany. thank god they aren't cry baby pussies about smoking.

[darksoul]

I think they should ban stupidity in public places cause its dangerous.

[frank7799]

Originally Posted by herbalot

"We believe a general smoking ban is not the solution," said Reemtsma spokesman Sebastian Blohm. "There is no clear evidence that passive smoking leads to serious health problems. The risks are on a par with the risks to the brain from using mobile telephones. Neither are significant." Retarded.

That´s why Reemtsma and other tobacco companies pay huge amounts of "donations" to political parties in Germany.

[madawgz]

geez, when will they stop?

[nAtuRaLbEautY]

Damn, interesting article. I don't smoke.

[CaptainHowdy]

Smoking sucks !