Chameleon Sub vs. buying traffic - GoFuckYourself.com

kiwi · 06-17-2006, 09:45 PM

What sort of numbers will I be looking at from using chameleon submitter. I am starting from scratch without any partner accounts. Will i be better off just buying gallery traffic? Chameleon's monthly submission fee of $20 will buy at least 20k gallery traffic from a broker, not to mention the time spent submitting. Will chameleon get more than 20k traffic?

I had a browse of the tgps in chameleons tgp database, gotta say those tgps aren't exactly the highest quality to say the least.

reyz007 · 06-17-2006, 10:17 PM

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hi,

of course CHAMELEON TGP AUTO SUBMITTER TOOL is better
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CaptainHowdy · 06-17-2006, 10:30 PM

Combine the two and you may get some good results... try getting the Chameleon Partner Account Requester as well.

Nismo · 06-17-2006, 11:09 PM

i got over 700k to my galleries today using chameleon...

ScReAmH2O · 06-17-2006, 11:12 PM

Wow Very interesting

Harmon · 06-17-2006, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

Chameleon's monthly submission fee of $20 will buy at least 20k gallery traffic from a broker, not to mention the time spent submitting.

20K of Chinese traffic - if you are lucky.

CaptainHowdy · 06-17-2006, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo

i got over 700k to my galleries today using chameleon...

Woah! i gotta keep on submitting

!!

Paul Markham · 06-17-2006, 11:35 PM

Think about it for 5 minutes.

If the guy selling you traffic had traffic a new guy could convert why is he selling it to you?

Chameleon submitter every time. We tried buying traffic for a paysite that converts well. Never got anything. An hour or 2 on Chameleon every day was making us at least 1 sign up, average 1.5 a day.

Take a few months though to really kick in and I have no idea why.

PussyTeenies · 06-18-2006, 01:07 AM

damn I'm doing something wrong with Chameleon.. 2 hours?
how many do you submit?

it takes me 10 min. max to submit
what the hell am I missing for the rest of the 110Minutes?

Paul Markham · 06-18-2006, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyTeenies

damn I'm doing something wrong with Chameleon.. 2 hours?
how many do you submit?

it takes me 10 min. max to submit
what the hell am I missing for the rest of the 110Minutes?

More likely we are doing something wrong then.

Getting the gallery ready, putting it in Chameleon, confirming all the emails that need it.

To be honest I don't do it, have a girl at her home doing it and we pay her for the traffic she sends.

sweetgirl2006 · 06-18-2006, 01:32 AM

maybe you should try dreamsubmitter, i am getting lots of buying traffic, and they have a great tgp/mgp database.

PussyTeenies · 06-18-2006, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

More likely we are doing something wrong then.

Getting the gallery ready, putting it in Chameleon, confirming all the emails that need it.

To be honest I don't do it, have a girl at her home doing it and we pay her for the traffic she sends.

gallery is 5 min work to make for us
putting it in chameleon and making the sample/templates and submitting is another 5 min.

confirming is a maybe another 5 min max

so Am I doing something wrong?

da man · 06-18-2006, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyTeenies

gallery is 5 min work to make for us
putting it in chameleon and making the sample/templates and submitting is another 5 min.

confirming is a maybe another 5 min max

so Am I doing something wrong?

I think you are doing fine. A little experience is enough to get this job done very quickly. And if you have Chameleon Confirmer you can also speed up the confirmation and save some more minutes.

Choppa · 06-18-2006, 04:49 AM

PussyTeenies · 06-18-2006, 05:20 AM

nice pic choppa ;)

reyz007 · 06-18-2006, 06:07 AM

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15 - 20 minutes is enough

try to see CHAMELEON TUTORIAL
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tornell · 06-19-2006, 04:38 AM

combine Chameleon Submitter and Chameleon Partner Account Requester!

tranza · 06-19-2006, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo

i got over 700k to my galleries today using chameleon...

Yeah, and she's going to get anything around that just by using Chameleon...

Right...........

qxm · 07-23-2006, 02:42 AM

700k using chameleon alone?

, mm i'm using the same program and most likely the same database and i'm getting maybe 0.0001% of that submitting around 5-10 gallys a day..... is dreamsubmitter DB better?...ive noticed that only 10-20 TGPs i submit to using CS are sending most of the traffic .... and i wonder wtf is going on with the rest of the tgps?...... i must asume it is because of a crappy database...

So a question to the people using Dream submitter... from a gallery submission to 300 tgps.... how many of those 300 tgps are actually sending good traffic (100-1000+ a day?) .....Im trying to determine wether i should stick with CS or switch to DS.... (the parter acc requester is a lil expensive 4 me to consider right now...)

Huggles · 07-23-2006, 02:56 AM

Seriously, there is no money in submitting. Get a day job.

V_RocKs · 07-23-2006, 03:16 AM

Hmm.. You said buying traffic would get you 20,000 hits for the same money.

20,000 hits to a gallery isn't shit.

On average it can take from 10,000 to 100,000 hits to a gallery to get 1 sale.

It varies greatly with the targeting of the traffic and the quality of the gallery (both in its content and the layout).

So if you were to make a kickass gallery about a LightSpeed pool party and it was on a website that dealt with teens getting wet.. sure... 10,000 hits and you have a sale... perhaps even less.

But the same gallery on the hun where people more often expect hardcore porn and freakish shit, this gallery might require 70,000 hits for a sale.

That means someone is running through your BW for 70,000 hits... That is a lot of BW... But if you can still make money, great...

So you buy traffic for $20 at 20,000 hits... and this traffic is usually really shitty no matter what the 'salesman' tells you it can do, and you make 1 sale per 48,000 hits... Cool. But it took 8 days to get all 60,000 hits you purchased even though they said it'd take only 2.

And that is $60 spent for those hits. Plus you spend about $5 in BW... And the gallery paid you $35. So now you are $30 in the hole...

Buying traffic is NOT how you make money on galleries.... It is how gallery traffic sellers make money on newbs like you.

ffmihai · 07-23-2006, 03:26 AM

there is not money in gallery submiting its all a waste of time!

Kimo · 07-23-2006, 03:57 AM

there is no money in porn

martinsc · 07-23-2006, 04:03 AM

i buy traffic at TrafficHolder and i am very happy with it.

rowan · 07-23-2006, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Think about it for 5 minutes.

If the guy selling you traffic had traffic a new guy could convert why is he selling it to you?

Same old argument... have you ever considered that some people are better than building traffic than converting? Why do you think there are companies that build TGPs for a fee?

06-17-2006, 09:45 PM	#1
kiwi Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 118	Chameleon Sub vs. buying traffic What sort of numbers will I be looking at from using chameleon submitter. I am starting from scratch without any partner accounts. Will i be better off just buying gallery traffic? Chameleon's monthly submission fee of $20 will buy at least 20k gallery traffic from a broker, not to mention the time spent submitting. Will chameleon get more than 20k traffic? I had a browse of the tgps in chameleons tgp database, gotta say those tgps aren't exactly the highest quality to say the least.

06-17-2006, 10:17 PM	#2
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06-17-2006, 11:09 PM	#4
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06-17-2006, 11:12 PM	#5
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06-17-2006, 11:35 PM	#8
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Think about it for 5 minutes. If the guy selling you traffic had traffic a new guy could convert why is he selling it to you? Chameleon submitter every time. We tried buying traffic for a paysite that converts well. Never got anything. An hour or 2 on Chameleon every day was making us at least 1 sign up, average 1.5 a day. Take a few months though to really kick in and I have no idea why. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

06-17-2006, 10:30 PM	#3
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06-18-2006, 01:07 AM	#9
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06-18-2006, 06:07 AM	#16
reyz007 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,495	. 15 - 20 minutes is enough try to see CHAMELEON TUTORIAL . __________________ --------------------------------------------- + + + NEED TRAFFIC??? CLICK HERE!! + + + ---------------------------------------------

06-19-2006, 04:38 AM	#17
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07-23-2006, 02:42 AM	#19
qxm Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NoHo Posts: 5,970	700k using chameleon alone?, mm i'm using the same program and most likely the same database and i'm getting maybe 0.0001% of that submitting around 5-10 gallys a day..... is dreamsubmitter DB better?...ive noticed that only 10-20 TGPs i submit to using CS are sending most of the traffic .... and i wonder wtf is going on with the rest of the tgps?...... i must asume it is because of a crappy database... So a question to the people using Dream submitter... from a gallery submission to 300 tgps.... how many of those 300 tgps are actually sending good traffic (100-1000+ a day?) .....Im trying to determine wether i should stick with CS or switch to DS.... (the parter acc requester is a lil expensive 4 me to consider right now...)

07-23-2006, 02:56 AM	#20
Huggles GFY'S #1 retard Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Kelowna Posts: 11,122	Seriously, there is no money in submitting. Get a day job. __________________ https://3-veo.com/ The best AI video maker portal.

07-23-2006, 03:16 AM	#21
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Hmm.. You said buying traffic would get you 20,000 hits for the same money. 20,000 hits to a gallery isn't shit. On average it can take from 10,000 to 100,000 hits to a gallery to get 1 sale. It varies greatly with the targeting of the traffic and the quality of the gallery (both in its content and the layout). So if you were to make a kickass gallery about a LightSpeed pool party and it was on a website that dealt with teens getting wet.. sure... 10,000 hits and you have a sale... perhaps even less. But the same gallery on the hun where people more often expect hardcore porn and freakish shit, this gallery might require 70,000 hits for a sale. That means someone is running through your BW for 70,000 hits... That is a lot of BW... But if you can still make money, great... So you buy traffic for $20 at 20,000 hits... and this traffic is usually really shitty no matter what the 'salesman' tells you it can do, and you make 1 sale per 48,000 hits... Cool. But it took 8 days to get all 60,000 hits you purchased even though they said it'd take only 2. And that is $60 spent for those hits. Plus you spend about $5 in BW... And the gallery paid you $35. So now you are $30 in the hole... Buying traffic is NOT how you make money on galleries.... It is how gallery traffic sellers make money on newbs like you.

07-23-2006, 03:26 AM	#22
ffmihai keep walking... Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,177	there is not money in gallery submiting its all a waste of time! __________________

07-23-2006, 03:57 AM	#23
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07-23-2006, 04:03 AM	#24
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