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Old 06-08-2002, 01:37 PM   #1
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Apparently some people are offended that they can't promote their message board here.

Do you know of any other businesses that let others hang out there and try to take their traffic?

Why is this a hard concept for some people to understand?
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Old 06-08-2002, 01:40 PM   #2
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I don't think you will ever lose any traffic. I happen to like GFY. Perhaps even a little too much hehe.
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Old 06-08-2002, 01:42 PM   #3
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Seems there is a thread on that "other" message board about that. It's not a hard concept to grasp at all.
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Old 06-08-2002, 01:43 PM   #4
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I know I do not offer much to gfy but I wont leave *unless booted* LOL But I c your point, That is like a webmaster working very hard to get his traffic and then some people try and take it away by posting on that webmasters site, <shrugs>
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Old 06-08-2002, 01:48 PM   #5
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I don't even think "they" can take traffic from this site but it's just common respect to not promote another message board,he knew what he was doing when he had that signature...Go look at the button banner for "that" site... "Iamfuckingbored,even Aaron is allowed"...indirect shot at this board...just let them ride your coattailes...it's not like that board is going to do anything,4 new boards just popped up in the last 2 weeks...
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Old 06-08-2002, 02:00 PM   #6
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Old 06-08-2002, 02:03 PM   #7
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of course they are...



lol jk Lens..
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Old 06-08-2002, 02:38 PM   #9
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Its Lens' place.

If he doesn't want people coming into his house all day saying shit or telling people to go next door to someone else's house, good for him.

If he doesn't like someone and doesn't want to invite them over anymore, good for him. Fuck 'em.

He doesn't have to be fair. Its his place. He doesn't have to explain shit to anyone.
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Old 06-08-2002, 02:43 PM   #10
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There are two models to reference here:

In the adult business, we regularly trade traffic with related sites, don't we? (sponsorship programs to pure out-and-out traffic swaps).

You don't go into Luigi's Italian restaurant and hand out fliers to Alessandro's Italian Restaurant.

I'm kind of at a loss to choose between the two, but it's Lens's board. Is it more like an adult site or a restaurant?

I should note that it's regarded as a no-no on most boards I've been on to advt other boards.
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Old 06-08-2002, 02:50 PM   #11
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Jesus, are you guys whining about your iamfuckingbored.com or whatever?

Like we need another fuckin msgboard? Atleast go niche with it, like... 40 year dipshits who think they're god's gift to mankind.

Hell if Ima sign up on another "lets fuck around and copy gofuckyourself.com board"
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Old 06-08-2002, 02:53 PM   #12
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I think this whole pissing match is funny... I read ~3 boards regularly, and I know where I want to post to get answers to serious questions, just to shoot the breeze and so on. There are shitloads of boards, and it isn't if people are promoting other boards here or if they aren't that will keep GFY strong. By keeping it a great place to hang out, ask questions, and bounce shit around, it will keep its value to webmasters.

All this tiffing is just a pain in the ass now..
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Old 06-08-2002, 02:54 PM   #13
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In MY personal opinion on this, and that is exactly what this is.......

MY house, MY rules
YOUR house, your rules!!

Lens has every right to make the rules in his house just as anyone else has. I didn't personally see that having it in a signature was that bad of a thing, but it is his board and I respect his wishes on it. Lens and the rest of the GFY team have done alot for me and I won't even think of trying to tell them how to run it.

I understand his reasoning though..... I wouldn't want someone coming in my front door and screaming at MY guests to leave MY house and come to theirs.

Yes like sites do trade traffic and such...... that is valid, but when I trade traffic with someone, it is MY decision to trade or not to trade........

Lensman has the right to decide who he trades with and who he doesn't, bottom line and even trying to dispute that is pointless. I don't and can't blame anyone for having a set of rules and making people follow them.........

And yes I have been guilty of this before too, but the instant I was asked to remove it, I did...... I was always under the assumption that as long as it was in my signature, it was ok, but I was approached and asked to remove it and did without hesitation...... my LAST intention ever is to offend someone in their own house.
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Old 06-08-2002, 03:00 PM   #14
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Traffic TRADES are a good idea, but both sides want something from it.

If GFY sent 100 new people to Netpond, and Netpond did the same, that's a trade.

How do you think Serge's board got all his traffic? Because he spammed the shit out of Netpond and gave nothing in return. That's why most boards don't allow this sort of thing.

If blocking spam is censorship, then I agree that we censor. All established board do.
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Old 06-08-2002, 03:00 PM   #15
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Jesus, are you guys whining about your oooooooooobored.com or whatever?

jesus yeah, i havent seen this board so far.

If I ever fail in this business doing some major fuck up, I'll beg Electra to hire me for a board reviewer @ allofem
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I will agree with Tam that it is Lenman's show and he can do what he wants.

I just think that the whole thing is getting old..
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heh. it's lens' board, he can do what he wants. jeez. it's not a democracy
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Traffic TRADES are a good idea, but both sides want something from it.

If GFY sent 100 new people to Netpond, and Netpond did the same, that's a trade.

How do you think Serge's board got all his traffic? Because he spammed the shit out of Netpond and gave nothing in return. That's why most boards don't allow this sort of thing.

If blocking spam is censorship, then I agree that we censor. All established board do.
Lens,

I tried to contact you - you never responded - open for trades any day.. just say the word
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Lol, board traffic trading? mwahaha.

Aren't most of blahblahnewboardblah.com members from this board, or the ICQ spam?
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Old 06-08-2002, 04:11 PM   #20
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How do you think Serge's board got all his traffic? Because he spammed the shit out of Netpond and gave nothing in return. That's why most boards don't allow this sort of thing.
Bullshit.. he gave them pithy comments and alot of piss.. ;-)))
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Old 06-08-2002, 09:59 PM   #21
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If blocking spam is censorship, then I agree that we censor. All established board do.
I agree whole heartedly. This is a fucking business, people. I don't even allow signatures on my board (granted, it's not as big as GFY, but it's pretty substantial), because I refuse to give anyone free advertising. Not a soul. So, Lens, you're already being a nice enough guy by letting most people spam with their sig every time they post. I'm a bitch, what can I say.

Lensman's sandbox = Lensman's rules. Wanna cry about it? Then go play in your own mud-filled sandbox at home lol.

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Old 06-08-2002, 10:02 PM   #22
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Old 06-08-2002, 10:05 PM   #23
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Lens,

I tried to contact you - you never responded - open for trades any day.. just say the word
what the fuck good are your trades? All your members came from HERE.
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Old 06-08-2002, 10:06 PM   #24
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Do you know of any other businesses that let others hang out there and try to take their traffic?

Why is this a hard concept for some people to understand?
you could put links up to other boards and ppl would still come back here. gfy is just where its at
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to me, adult webmaster boards are like nightclubs and restaurants. it's nice to have a really popular one, but everybody needs variety.

mr lens has a very popular place but that does not means he has the "only" place. i would hate it if there were only ONE adult webmaster board. that would be akin to having only one nightclub or restaurant.

the people not only enjoy variety. they DEMAND variety.
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what board do you run?
It's not an adult board....it's a music board that people used to spam the shit out of (they were selling CD's, selling merchandise, selling boots, selling anything you can think of, etc.), until we got tired of it. Now, we make a LOT more money from it with our own advertising. Basically, I'm just greedy and I don't like people to make money off of my traffic.

Sorry, I can't give an url because I'm heavily involved in the music industry and I keep my porn life totally separate to prevent any possible problems. Long-winded answer, huh?
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to me, adult webmaster boards are like nightclubs and restaurants. it's nice to have a really popular one, but everybody needs variety.

mr lens has a very popular place but that does not means he has the "only" place. i would hate it if there were only ONE adult webmaster board. that would be akin to having only one nightclub or restaurant.

the people not only enjoy variety. they DEMAND variety.



lens isnt shutting down the other boards!... He's basically saying dont come in my restaurant wearing your restaurants shirt!..makes sense doesnt it??
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"lens isnt shutting down the other boards!... He's basically saying dont come in my restaurant wearing your restaurants shirt!..makes sense doesnt it??"

i don't recall saying lens was doing anything at all. just saying that other boards exist and to deny them is just silly.

i think "ole spectacles" would like to think his place is the ONLY place, which is his right. it may not be REALITY, but it's still his right.

this place is fun. hell, we buy ads here. we know where the kids go.

for another webmaster to come in here and spam their board is a foolish game. of fucking coarse "the spectacled one" will censure the boards of others. fucking duh.

just the same. you and i know there's other boards out there. there fucking better be.
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maybe the confusion comes from this...


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http://bbs.porncity.net/index.php
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I'm gonna guess the banned urls hold the honors.....
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the others weren't worth banning.
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Old 06-08-2002, 11:41 PM   #33
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note the term "RECENT"
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I guess this whole debate can be summed up like this.....

Lensman owns GFY. If you dont like his rules, dont post.

You may not like it, you may not agree with it, or you may agree with it. It does not matter. He makes the decisions. He pays for the bandwidth. He runs it! Its his world and we just vivit!

Peace...........
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this is one really really REALLY useless discussion. when you go to someone's place and it's private property, you obey HIS rules.

how would you like me to come in your house and take a shit on the carpet because you shouldn't censor my asshole? hey, i think it's a real fucking segregation if my shit goes down the flush! i want it in the living room, goddamit!

plain and simple - it's lens' board. so, it's lens' rules. don't like it - gee, what a problem... for you.
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Lens, I am not offended whatsoever, I would be embarrassed to even put my board link here LOL I had Amp and Gary on mine for awhile,, I couldnt even keep those two characters.

BTW lens, I met a bounty hunter a few nights ago here in Orlando, and I am giving him a GFY shirt next time I see him. He cant wait to get it... Now he wants to get in the "biz"
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On one hand, ford wouldn't allow chevy to advertise on there lot

On the other hand, if you thought you had a good product you wouldnt worry about a little competition.
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I use to work for a place that made pallets. They made some for both pepsi and coke, the coke pallet had a stencil in red paint that said "I Love Coca-Cola", somehow the stencil got on a pepsi pallet. We lost a 2million dollar a year contract with pepsi because of it.
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I use to work for a place that made pallets. They made some for both pepsi and coke, the coke pallet had a stencil in red paint that said "I Love Coca-Cola", somehow the stencil got on a pepsi pallet. We lost a 2million dollar a year contract with pepsi because of it.
Bingo! Each of those companies have exclusive contracts with thousands of schools and restaurants. My high school had a contract with Pepsi, every machine was from Pepsi and they even bought our basketball scoreboard. The other local high school had a contract with Coke. Every machine was Coke and I'm pretty sure they had a scoreboard as well. Companies do not brand or market each other unless they have something substantial to gain.

Do you really think I would promote Oliver's Money and Adult Templates in my signature if I didn't have something to gain? One is monetary, while the other is a favor to someone who does many favors for me.

I'm a mod at another developers board, non-adult, and they don't even allow referral codes. They'll barely let you mention your site or business! You guys should feel lucky that Lens allows this place to become spam haven.
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Lensman, one question - (and it's not like I give a shit about any other board or have EVER advertised for them but this just irks me)


why do YOU take PAID ADVERTISMENTS for oprano and other boards then?

you won't see coke advertising for pepsi and the reverse.

It's like saying I can do it and have done it in the past but you cann't.

Double standard - and it hurts your image and reputation.
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oprano can actually send him new members in trade... "that" board doesn't have anybody he wants,they are all here anyways lol
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OK, it ain 't much but here's my 2 cents a minute:

I agree that boards shouldn't get spammed on other boards.

However I do think using it in a one time announcement should be ok.

Also signatures shouldn't be an issue.

In that regard look at the PC BBS. they are very strict on what url's you post in their general forum, but you can put anything in your sig as you see fit.

So in that regard I agree with the statement that being so uptight about it shows how insecure you are about the quality of this board. And to be 100% honest you really don't have to, it's one of a kind

And no matter how much I hate to admit it I also agree with Sleazy on this one it is a double standard.

Well that's it my 2 cents worth

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This is scarrry, but in montreal the only board anyone talked about was GFY, and it was talked about a LOT by almost EVERYONE. Paysites, freesites, amateurs, cc processors, image brokers, etc. More so than any other topic.

That didn't happen last jan in vegas, it was mentioned but only breifly. The rapid growth is unreal and the relevant people who read this board now is almost scarry. It is now, without a doubt, THE adult industry board. There is NO compitation to this board - I say that again, there is NO compitation to this board. No other boards were mentioned in montreal.

So if I were you lens I wouldn't worry about it as links to GFY are on most every other board out there. Most guys like me don't even bother reading any other board at all. Let the little guys be happy and say what they will, GFY was once small too remember.

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Old 06-09-2002, 01:56 PM   #45
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if you want people to post a lot on your board, let them spam in the signature - as simple as that :D
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Ah finally I can argue with Sleazy

You got your facts wrong:

Item 1 Lens never spammed on other boards about GFY in fact I remember him appearing on PC BSS asking people not to post the url.

Item 2 GFY started off big (I think because of the AP webmasterbase they have on file) so it never was small to begin with

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Old 06-09-2002, 07:09 PM   #47
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Ah finally I can argue with Sleazy

You got your facts wrong:

Item 1 Lens never spammed on other boards about GFY in fact I remember him appearing on PC BSS asking people not to post the url.

Item 2 GFY started off big (I think because of the AP webmasterbase they have on file) so it never was small to begin with

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See, now you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground and it shows.
Lens may not have spamemd other boards, but other people did for GFY - even if not intentional for commerical purposes. Fact of the matter is that it happened and continues to happen.

GFY didn't start big with webmasters from all industries and aspects of the adult industry. It grew into that. Only a dumbass would think differently.
It's popularity really exploded with folks outside of the Adult.com network in the last 4-8 months
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Old 06-09-2002, 07:14 PM   #48
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GFY didn't start big with webmasters from all industries and aspects of the adult industry. It grew into that. Only a dumbass would think differently.
It's popularity really exploded with folks outside of the Adult.com network in the last 4-8 months
Yep.

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