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Some people who live in the mountains actually need one. People who live in the suburbs and drive to thier downtown slave jobs are NOT included. Like most status symbols, its all about who can be the biggest idiot.

Well played:thumbsup

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those flourescent bulbs rock.. ya, they're more expensive, BUT they last forever.. Put it this way, I bought 2 13 watt flourescent bulbs one year and a half ago and they still work as if they're brand new. Plus, While only using 26watts of power they produce the same lighting as 2 60watt bulbs. Only difference is the regular bulbs would have died long ago and cost me more in electricity.

I drive my SUV about 15 miles per week. The solution is not to get rid of SUVs but to drive less ;-)

I have an AWD Mini van, however, all my children are still in carseats (they havre to be in seats or boosters until they are 8 years old here), and there is no car in the universe I've found yet that seats 5 that can put three carseats/booster seats all in a row in the back and fit. Believe me, I measured hundreds of them. And then youcan't have anyone else but family in the vehicle (I have three kids). Minivan was the only way to go, however we only drive when neccessary, we just walk everywhere else.

The house next door to me though, I keep bugging them that the oil companies should start sending them royalties. They have three large SUV's, two trucks and two minivans (each kid has their own vehicle and they all drive gas-guzzlers). Aside from the obvious difficulty with the parking glut, they are constantly driving them. I can't imagine what they're paying for gas and spewing into the atmosphere.

The excursion is slow as frozen shit compared to the Santa Fe. trust me.. lol. The 2.7 gives er shit and the 3.x is insane. It's power to weight ratio is very pleasing. Displaceent and size does not mean faster. It just does not. it never did and never will.

Now, onto horsepower and torque. It's irrelavant. If you have a 2500 lbs vehicle with just under 200hp and 200 foot pounds of torque you're fine. Put a good cool running tranny in there and you're even better. Get a 6000lbs vehicle with a 300hp motor and the same tranny, will do just as well in the towing end of things but eat 4 times as much gas and take much longer to get to speed, if it gets to top speed.

A santa fe can tow. With a tranny cooler it can tow 3200 with 2wd. With no cooler it can tow 2800. Sounds good to me.

So there's no excuse for driving a massive SUV. None.

Zero.

All you have going for you is a tax break, but that's a greedy benefit.


The Santa Fe.

The motor mounts decouple and drop the motor on a severe head on collision and uses the entire front end as a crumple zone to absorb the shock. What absorbs the shock on an Excursion? Your legs and chest. Also, you can't roll a Santa Fe unless you REALLY really tried or got t-boned by something very very big.

So tell me, how fast can you get that ford up to in real world driving conditions? How much fuel does it eat average and how much room does it have?

I have as much room as any other suv with the only exception being that the cargo area is much smaller in the Santa Fe than in other suvs from larger classes. I get 9.7L/100km mixed City/HW and get from 0-60 in under 8 seconds... 6 seconds if I am able to overcome the torque steer but being front wheel drive, not very easy to do. Top speed 220km/h real world.

Anyways, hey I understand, you like your big monster vehicles. No problem, Some do, some don't. However don't try to justify it with uses that other vehicles can do easily enough. You just like a big vehicle. That's all. Admit that you're just greedy and want something huge to make you feel safe in.

I feel somewhat greedy going from a civic to a santa fe myself, but I feel safer in this. I just know to admit the little bit of greed.


No hard feeling, just wanted to argue some of the facts ha

I didn't get the connection...:)

i should be ok with my ride.. :upsidedow

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