Getting a fulltime programer?

[xlogger]

Anyone have one? How much is the avg $ per month? Im thinking of getting a guy/girl to do my coding full time.

[NoWhErE]

Woudl sir like me to code for you sir? I make you very happy. $50 for every month sir.

Thank you kindly sir

[MaddCaz]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Woudl sir like me to code for you sir? I make you very happy. $50 for every month sir.

Thank you kindly sir

[xlogger]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Woudl sir like me to code for you sir? I make you very happy. $50 for every month sir.

Thank you kindly sir

hmmmm, $50, i dont knowwwwwww.

[Fucksakes]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Woudl sir like me to code for you sir? I make you very happy. $50 for every month sir.

Thank you kindly sir

thats was very funny, shit I get called sir all day long on icq.. its fucking annoying.. I once told a guy if he keeps calling me sir, im going to have to call him bitch.. and he said yes sir!

[Tdog]

www.scriptlance.com

try that site.

[donross]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Woudl sir like me to code for you sir? I make you very happy. $50 for every month sir.

Thank you kindly sir

hehehe thats cheap... i wonder if you can give a price like that in your vid editing job ... hehehe

[BigBen]

You get what you pay for, sir.

[detoxed]

Originally Posted by Tdog

www.scriptlance.com

try that site.

I find mainly scamming foreigners on these type of sites. Not sure if I used this specific one though.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Woudl sir like me to code for you sir? I make you very happy. $50 for every month sir.

Thank you kindly sir

ROFL !!

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by xlogger

Anyone have one? How much is the avg $ per month? Im thinking of getting a guy/girl to do my coding full time.

I have two I use regularly, but neither are full-time anymore. When they were full-time, it made things a LOT easier than using random contractors because they knew my UI preferences, my preferred coding style, the delivery times I required, etc. It saved time explaining it over and over, and not knowing the quality of the new coders.

The issue you run into sometimes if volume. I couldn't justify handing out $4,000/month checks if there weren't many projects in the pipeline.

Hit me on ICQ with what languages you need, and I can possibly recommend some names.

[munki]

Depends on skill level, and demand like anything else.

Find someone stateside who is hungry for some work, you might get em real cheap.

Go after somebody who doesn't have trouble keeping himself booked, you'll have to dangle a rather large carrot to get em full time.

For most... depending on languages known, and competence level... expect somewhere in the $35-150 range. Big range, but consider your needs, and shoot for a range.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by xlogger

Anyone have one? How much is the avg $ per month? Im thinking of getting a guy/girl to do my coding full time.

Sir??

If coding could be your "thing" - it is well-worthwhile getting good at this yourself if you have the time xlogger.

There is nothing quite so good as developing your own systems/programs for the exact purpose you want. It can also be a slight saving in that you "know" what you want and don't have to spend time trying to brief someone else with your system spec.

As habit, I've always done this with every biz and this ranged from simple stuff to complex systems with 80 ish workstations with extensive audit trails - that can not only save many 1000's, but match your purpose exactly.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by Webby

Sir??

If coding could be your "thing" - it is well-worthwhile getting good at this yourself if you have the time xlogger.

There is nothing quite so good as developing your own systems/programs for the exact purpose you want. It can also be a slight saving in that you "know" what you want and don't have to spend time trying to brief someone else with your system spec.

As habit, I've always done this with every biz and this ranged from simple stuff to complex systems with 80 ish workstations with extensive audit trails - that can not only save many 1000's, but match your purpose exactly.

Wise words, but it depends on how you value your time in some cases. Even those of us that *can* string code together, we often *don't* if we can just pay someone.

I mean, sure, I *can* grow my own vegatables to my exact specifications, but I can also go to the store and buy them.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Wise words, but it depends on how you value your time in some cases. Even those of us that *can* string code together, we often *don't* if we can just pay someone.

I mean, sure, I *can* grow my own vegatables to my exact specifications, but I can also go to the store and buy them.

Sure.. definately depends on time available. Not sure what type of coding may be required, but it may be easier simply to employ someone.

If it is coding relates to the core functions of your biz - hell, prefer that is 'in-house' if possible.

The problem with growing these vegatables to exact specs never seems to end up with the specs you really wanted in programming world - tried that a few times and junked it.

There is also some aspects of "commitment" involved over time - software is constantly evolving and really needs ongoing attention - perhaps not so much for smaller stuff, but definately for core coding which could make or break a business.

Of the "in house" development, two packages were eventually produced from "in house" and made commercially available to others in the adult industry. The general comments for companies using the software was that they could not function without it - but that only came about at the development stage - simply because we understood the industry fully and were able to develop along these lines. It is very hard to convey an in-depth overall spec to a coder who may be working on one project - then on to the next.

But sure... it would be nice to find coders who were almost permanently available and stable. There is enough work to keep them active for a few decades

[madawgz]

good luck, ive had bad luck finding coders...

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by Webby

\The problem with growing these vegatables to exact specs never seems to end up with the specs you really wanted in programming world - tried that a few times and junked it.

Hehe, take everything I said with a grain of salt, too. I have a HUGE project in PHP that has been in the making for 2 years, and is finally being finished this week. All last week, I worked on it for 14 hours each day.

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by donross

hehehe thats cheap... i wonder if you can give a price like that in your vid editing job ... hehehe

Sir I will perform the editing of video for good price of $25/month. But sir must excuse me kindly, I am leaving office for 3rd National Holiday this week. Tomorrow we expect a typhoon. Maybe I will be lucky and next week my hard drive will not crash.

Thank you sir for work

[Webby]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Hehe, take everything I said with a grain of salt, too. I have a HUGE project in PHP that has been in the making for 2 years, and is finally being finished this week. All last week, I worked on it for 14 hours each day.

Well done edgeprod

It is actually an achievement to even finish a project of that length

Next nasty little bit is the ongoing "enhancements" and maintenance

Got one going on here at the moment and prob has been two years now, but got at least another year to go yet - but sweet as a nut when finished

[Odin]

To add to what everyone else has to say just be careful. There are some decent guys out there, but I'd recommend you bring someone in local. It can seem more expensive, but in reality it isn't if you hire them full-time, and things will get done alot faster and alot closer to your specifications

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Chief

To add to what everyone else has to say just be careful. There are some decent guys out there, but I'd recommend you bring someone in local. It can seem more expensive, but in reality it isn't if you hire them full-time, and things will get done alot faster and alot closer to your specifications

Bottom line - within reason, any salaries are cheap in comparison to a screwed up mess. After that it's what level of experience, languages etc..

[MrChips]

I can do Z80A machine code if you like

[Just Jace]

on this note, I wanted to throw something out there

has anyone on the board ever teamed up with a group of people and hired a programmer full time? say maybe 3-4 peopel chip in and hire someone on a monthly basis and all share the person for their programming projects. I understand that equal time for each person would be an issue, but i think would be an excellent way to get a full time programmer for a lower rate.

I know I don't need a programmer full time, but I would love to go in with some people and hire someone on a monhtly basis, and every first week of the month I got him for 7 days, or maybe if the guy worked 6 days, each person could have the programmer for 2 days out of the week

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by Just Jace

on this note, I wanted to throw something out there

has anyone on the board ever teamed up with a group of people and hired a programmer full time? say maybe 3-4 peopel chip in and hire someone on a monthly basis and all share the person for their programming projects. I understand that equal time for each person would be an issue, but i think would be an excellent way to get a full time programmer for a lower rate.

I know I don't need a programmer full time, but I would love to go in with some people and hire someone on a monhtly basis, and every first week of the month I got him for 7 days, or maybe if the guy worked 6 days, each person could have the programmer for 2 days out of the week

Yup, my good buddy did it and it didn't turn out so well

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Just Jace

on this note, I wanted to throw something out there

has anyone on the board ever teamed up with a group of people and hired a programmer full time? say maybe 3-4 peopel chip in and hire someone on a monthly basis and all share the person for their programming projects. I understand that equal time for each person would be an issue, but i think would be an excellent way to get a full time programmer for a lower rate.

I know I don't need a programmer full time, but I would love to go in with some people and hire someone on a monhtly basis, and every first week of the month I got him for 7 days, or maybe if the guy worked 6 days, each person could have the programmer for 2 days out of the week

That's OK for ad hoc stuff Jace, but if you want concentration on a project - little hope by that method.

[bucketoffuck]

What do you need done? I code php, c++, java etc... full-time: around 35-40K USD/year to start.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by Webby

Well done edgeprod

It is actually an achievement to even finish a project of that length

Next nasty little bit is the ongoing "enhancements" and maintenance

Luckily, this *is* the "enhancements" and maintenance part.

I decided to make it REQUIRE its own server -- i.e., the box itself must be configured to run it, like an appliance -- that way, I can just launch them at will, with a an image "ghosted" onto each machine.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Luckily, this *is* the "enhancements" and maintenance part.

I decided to make it REQUIRE its own server -- i.e., the box itself must be configured to run it, like an appliance -- that way, I can just launch them at will, with a an image "ghosted" onto each machine.

Ah... sounds like you are in total control there and got the implementation sorted



PS.. If anyone asks too many questions - shoot them :-)

[xxxoutsourcing]

Hitting you up now. I've sent an email for you to check.

Hope to hear from you. Thanks!


(ICQ: 323520451)

[Antonio]

full time??? gee, there must be a lot of coding involved in what you do

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by xxxoutsourcing

Hitting you up now. I've sent an email for you to check.

Hope to hear from you. Thanks!

I must have missed where he asked you to do this -- was it in ICQ?

[Mike_AWP]

hit me up.. we can help you..

[flashfreak]

I learnt php - started like 8 months ago - and I'm doing my own projects.
if you have some programming background and time php is quite easy to learn

[en21]

what sort of programmer u need?? php /// .net /// java or what.. be more specific

[studiocritic]

php guys who are any good will want 5-6k to start.. at least on the west coast. might be able to pull 4-5k if they live in cheaper areas.

any good (and experienced) php guy can go somewhere here fulltime and get 80k+benefits. there are dozens of jobs like that on monster.

[Wordsforhire]

Avoid sites like Scriptlance and RAC, I used to use them when I was in mainstream and it's true what they say, you pay for what you get. I couldn't believe the prices some people were quoting but in the end the project was reposted due to lack of communication or some other thing such as, oh yeah, the work was shit.

I'm not saying it is always like that as there are genuine people on there but most of the programmer market is foreign hence the cheap prices but the work lacks the quality that you expect.

Always go by word of mouth and examples. Ask people you know who have had programmers and what their attitude to work is like.

Paul, my hubby is a programmer who works full time on a mainstream site. He isn't cheap but his work is good, maybe I am biased but then again the site he works on wouldnt have went into partnership with him and split the profits 50/50 if he wasnt good enough to keep around..

Ask your friends or colleagues who they have had work for them in the past, but seriously Scriptlance is not the way to go.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by Wordsforhire

Avoid sites like Scriptlance and RAC

You are right on the money here.

Also, avoid anyone who can't read threads, like the morons who have already come in with drive-by spam.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

You are right on the money here.

Also, avoid anyone who can't read threads, like the morons who have already come in with drive-by spam.

Oh, and er .. I didn't mean you, just to clarify.