Is there a good way to get points reduced on a speeding ticket? - GoFuckYourself.com

beemk · 07-16-2006, 10:16 PM

i have to go take care of one tomorrow, i dont care about paying the fine but i would like to try and get the points removed. heres what their website says:

1. Admit responsibility in person, by mail or by representation, or plead guilty and pay the applicable fee.
Under this scenario, the Court shall enter a judgment, process the payment, and, if applicable, generate an abstract of conviction to the Office of the Secretary of State (SOS). The Court closes the case, and license sanctions (i.e. points, suspension), if any, are then applied by SOS.

2. Admit responsibility with an explanation (civil infraction only).
Under this scenario, you are admitting responsibility. The judge/magistrate cannot dismiss a case, reduce the charge, or reduce the points based on an explanation without a hearing. Based on the explanation, the judge/magistrate may assess the standard fine, reduce the fine, or set a hearing. You will be notified of the judge?s/magistrate?s decision by mail and will have 14 days from the date of mailing to submit payment to the Court.

3. Deny responsibility (civil infraction) or plead not guilty (misdemeanor) in person, by mail or by representation and request a hearing.

1. For a civil infraction, the defendant may request either an informal hearing (before a magistrate or judge without representation for either the police officer or the defendant) or a formal hearing (before a judge with the option for the defendant to have representation and the city or county prosecuting attorney representing the police officer). For a misdemeanor, a pretrial hearing will be scheduled before a judge to determine whether a plea will be entered or a bench or jury trial will be scheduled.
2. If an informal hearing is held and there is a judgment for the defendant, the case is closed (subject to appeal by the city or county prosecuting attorney). If there is a judgment against the defendant, the defendant must pay the applicable fee in full and the Court shall submit an abstract of conviction to SOS for appropriate license sanctions to be imposed. A defendant may appeal an informal hearing judgment by posting a bond in the amount of the applicable fee. A defendant must assert his/her desire to appeal in writing within seven (7) days of the informal hearing judgment. A de novo (completely new) formal hearing will then be scheduled before a judge.
3. If a formal hearing is held and there is a judgment for the defendant, the case is closed (subject to the prosecutor?s appeal). If there is a judgment against the defendant, the judge may require the fee be paid in full or set a due date for payment. If a bond has been posted, it shall be applied to the fee. The Court shall submit an abstract of conviction to SOS for appropriate license sanctions to be imposed. A defendant may appeal a formal hearing judgment to the County Circuit Court by paying the imposed fee or posting an appeal bond equal to the imposed fee and following the appeal process outlined in Michigan Court Rule (MCR) 7.100.

Spunky · 07-16-2006, 10:18 PM

Challenge the accuracy of the speed gun..when was it calibrated last?..chances are the cop won't show anyways.

beemk · 07-16-2006, 10:32 PM

thanks, anyone else?

szango420 · 07-16-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky

Challenge the accuracy of the speed gun..when was it calibrated last?..chances are the cop won't show anyways.

I know a few friends that have gotten out of tickets with that! request to have the gun tested and recalibrated...

ProjectNaked · 07-16-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by szango420

I know a few friends that have gotten out of tickets with that! request to have the gun tested and recalibrated...

I got laughed at trying that one.

Is the appearance mandatory or did you schedule the hearing? What county? What was the ticket for. I have had more than 10 speeding tickets in MI and a bunch of others, mostly in Washtenaw county. I always schedule a hearing and am currently around 50% for winning. Only expect the cop to no-show 10% of the time, (although I have won 2x from this). Prepare an argument and make sure to practice what you're going to say. I have won 2 tickets because the judge believed my word over the cops, (1 failure to yield and 1 speeding). Try to stay away from arguing, just state your case. The cop will tell his side first, expect him to make up all kinds of shit and exagerate, it's his job to get your money. Make sure to pay close attention to what he says and cite specific statements in your rebuttle. Also stay as calm as possible, the judge will sence fear and take it for guilt. Worst case senario, you got caught and are gonna cough up a few $$ for it. As for the points, I don't think separate the tickets like they used to. Back in the day, you went in front of a magistrate and if he/she liked you they would just make you pay the fine to keep your record clean but I don't think they do this and I would only ask for it if the cops story is air-tight. hope this helps, if I think of anyting else I'll post later. In the future, you can push these hearings back as far as a year, useful for insurance purposes

SilentKnight · 07-17-2006, 12:18 AM

Our local cops have an option where they let you attend an 'aggressive driver' refresher session. Its an hour-long video presentation with a short and simple multiple-choice quiz at the end. You still have to pay the ticket, but the session wipes out any demerit points you might've received.

Offering the option is by the cop's discretion (if you act like a prick, they'll just hand you the ticket and the points). But if you act like a reasonable person and be polite, you'll can avoid the points (and the subsequent insurance rate hikes).

But I don't know how many other places offer similiar options. Might not hurt to inquire around.

07-16-2006, 10:16 PM	#1
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	Is there a good way to get points reduced on a speeding ticket? i have to go take care of one tomorrow, i dont care about paying the fine but i would like to try and get the points removed. heres what their website says: 1. Admit responsibility in person, by mail or by representation, or plead guilty and pay the applicable fee. Under this scenario, the Court shall enter a judgment, process the payment, and, if applicable, generate an abstract of conviction to the Office of the Secretary of State (SOS). The Court closes the case, and license sanctions (i.e. points, suspension), if any, are then applied by SOS. 2. Admit responsibility with an explanation (civil infraction only). Under this scenario, you are admitting responsibility. The judge/magistrate cannot dismiss a case, reduce the charge, or reduce the points based on an explanation without a hearing. Based on the explanation, the judge/magistrate may assess the standard fine, reduce the fine, or set a hearing. You will be notified of the judge?s/magistrate?s decision by mail and will have 14 days from the date of mailing to submit payment to the Court. 3. Deny responsibility (civil infraction) or plead not guilty (misdemeanor) in person, by mail or by representation and request a hearing. 1. For a civil infraction, the defendant may request either an informal hearing (before a magistrate or judge without representation for either the police officer or the defendant) or a formal hearing (before a judge with the option for the defendant to have representation and the city or county prosecuting attorney representing the police officer). For a misdemeanor, a pretrial hearing will be scheduled before a judge to determine whether a plea will be entered or a bench or jury trial will be scheduled. 2. If an informal hearing is held and there is a judgment for the defendant, the case is closed (subject to appeal by the city or county prosecuting attorney). If there is a judgment against the defendant, the defendant must pay the applicable fee in full and the Court shall submit an abstract of conviction to SOS for appropriate license sanctions to be imposed. A defendant may appeal an informal hearing judgment by posting a bond in the amount of the applicable fee. A defendant must assert his/her desire to appeal in writing within seven (7) days of the informal hearing judgment. A de novo (completely new) formal hearing will then be scheduled before a judge. 3. If a formal hearing is held and there is a judgment for the defendant, the case is closed (subject to the prosecutor?s appeal). If there is a judgment against the defendant, the judge may require the fee be paid in full or set a due date for payment. If a bond has been posted, it shall be applied to the fee. The Court shall submit an abstract of conviction to SOS for appropriate license sanctions to be imposed. A defendant may appeal a formal hearing judgment to the County Circuit Court by paying the imposed fee or posting an appeal bond equal to the imposed fee and following the appeal process outlined in Michigan Court Rule (MCR) 7.100. __________________ I host with Vacares

07-16-2006, 10:18 PM	#2
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07-17-2006, 12:18 AM	#6
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Our local cops have an option where they let you attend an 'aggressive driver' refresher session. Its an hour-long video presentation with a short and simple multiple-choice quiz at the end. You still have to pay the ticket, but the session wipes out any demerit points you might've received. Offering the option is by the cop's discretion (if you act like a prick, they'll just hand you the ticket and the points). But if you act like a reasonable person and be polite, you'll can avoid the points (and the subsequent insurance rate hikes). But I don't know how many other places offer similiar options. Might not hurt to inquire around.