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Paysighting 07-16-2006 03:17 PM

Excellent read, Paul!! :)

Paul Markham 07-16-2006 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw
I have no intention of ever becoming a photographer for adult material or any other apart from hobby type stuff :thumbsup

I however fail to see how you could EVER possibly believe that your having sex with *TEENS* is going to help sell your content. What you are doing is very very wrong and the fact that you are unable to see this is rather frightening.

You are probably a great photographer (I have no idea of your work and am not making any judgements on it - just to be clear on this), but your thoughts and views on this particular subject are disturbing IMO.

Anyways, I don't wish to intrude on your thread any longer - icq me if you want to hash it out/abuse me.

As this thread is more about porn than photography allow me to address this question very specifically.

Your Mr. Average Guy does not make a good pornographer. Look at us, Aaron Matthews, Max Candy, John Stagliano, Ed Powers, Ben Dover, etc are not Mr Averages. They have something that models like.

Now when you're face is behind a camera and you're 12 feet away from the model who turned up to only earn money you need that edge. You need to get the model looking into the camera with meaning, heat and sexuality. We do this by the power of our personality, my persona, when shooting, is that of a clowning perv. I will often tell the model there is no film in the camera.

If you do what we have to do, so you can get people to buy porn, models get turned on. you get friendly and sometimes "IT" happens!!!!!

Do the models regret it? Sometimes, but very rarely.

Do they enjoy it? Well they seem to come back a lot and with a bigger smile on their faces.

Now George fails to see how us using our personality helps sell the content, so as this is an informative thread I will show you.

The first thing to understand is we do not need to force girls into bed, never had a problem meeting and getting friendly with women.

So compare these options and tell me which one is the best for you guys to sell porn from.

Shooting a girl who has no feeling for me?

Shooting a girl who likes me?

Shooting a girl who fancies me?

Shooting a girl who has had me and wants some more?

Which one do you think gives the content the edge, the sparkle in the girls eye and the better chances for you to make money from?

Now there are those who will argue that you politely turn the girl down, how many times do you think you can do this before she thinks you are a loser?

Yes our job is a little more than a meat market and I'm no butcher.

sam from montreal 07-16-2006 11:29 PM

very great post ... bookmarked ! :thumbsup

Sam :pimp

Paul Markham 07-16-2006 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooboy
as me being a newbie to porn, but not shooting, could we pls agree on:

study the porn AS MUCH as the photography?

No we cannot agree.

I can teach you to take a picture of a girl as good as her boyfriend takes, prior to him fucking her, in about 20 minutes.

Teaching you to put the look on her face he will get takes a lot longer.

It's the look on her face that sells the picture.

For over 20 years "Amateur Porn" always meant amateur models, readers wives, girl next door. It was only when I came to the Internet that I found a part of the porn industry where in meant amateur photographer shooting the local stripper/hooker/bored model.

Paul Markham 07-17-2006 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khun
Hey Paul, any chance on getting a cheat sheet pose book? :)

One of mine is not going to suit you.

Make one up from magazines in the same niche/style as you want to shoot. Use the full page pictures and the centrefolds.

Magazines are a great way of shaping your shooting. They use a much more defined way of getting over their message to buyers, as they only have 12 to 14 sets to do it with.

Paul Markham 07-17-2006 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
i would like to add...

WHITE BALANCE your cams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find the videos with a too warm color balance off putting. But last weeks top voted video on the paysite was one from Adult Czech Content and it's in a warm color balance.

It is very horny though. :jerkoff

Paul Markham 07-17-2006 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcitecash
thats great stuff Mr M

i usually disagree with you but nice to see a helpfull post...

You are wrong about me being scared of competition, I just scraped the surface here and as you can see most still think our job is about photography.

Because Ernest Hemingway used a type writer did that make him a typist or am author?

Not claiming to be a genius like him, just pointing out why I use a camera but do not consider what I do photography.

aztecboi2003 08-09-2006 08:36 PM

Just read through this thread. Very informative. I take photos of escorts and I think I need to step my game up and purchase a light set. Thanks for posting this.

Paul Markham 08-09-2006 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aztecboi2003
Just read through this thread. Very informative. I take photos of escorts and I think I need to step my game up and purchase a light set. Thanks for posting this.

You're welcome.

Shooting escorts and strippers was never easy for me.

acctman 08-10-2006 12:16 AM

i have a question... what's the average pay per hour for a model broken down by bikini shoot, erotic posing non-nude, nude erotic, nude explicit, etc.

khun: i use the whibal white balance card ( www.rawworkflow.com )

woj 08-10-2006 12:24 AM

50 content shooting newbs...

blackout 02-26-2007 09:39 PM

where can i get a model release form, or is that something that you have to get done by a personal lawyer?

Alaska 02-26-2007 11:41 PM

Wow, great guide.. it's amazing that you can find some real work on this board! :)

Thanks for the hard work put into this!

Adultnet 02-27-2007 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 10388101)
I read that guide last week. I recommend it to anybody who is looking to get into the content business.

very interesting and good guide, thanks !! :)

PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE 02-27-2007 01:59 AM

Wewt.... bookmarked

goldmine 02-27-2007 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 10388140)
bookmarked it :thumbsup
thanks Paul


Same here! Thanks Paul! :thumbsup :thumbsup

goldmine 02-27-2007 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 10393505)
I have no intention of ever becoming a photographer for adult material or any other apart from hobby type stuff :thumbsup

I however fail to see how you could EVER possibly believe that your having sex with *TEENS* is going to help sell your content. What you are doing is very very wrong and the fact that you are unable to see this is rather frightening.

You are probably a great photographer (I have no idea of your work and am not making any judgements on it - just to be clear on this), but your thoughts and views on this particular subject are disturbing IMO.

Anyways, I don't wish to intrude on your thread any longer - icq me if you want to hash it out/abuse me.

LMAO to you "mate" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Your thinking is flawed. Why? You just told Paul that what he's doing is "very very wrong" is it because of shooting teens?

Why George? did your self righteous aussie mind tell you that shooting girl aged 25-35 make things right?

:2 cents:

goldmine 02-27-2007 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 10393505)
I however fail to see how you could EVER possibly believe that your having sex with *TEENS* is going to help sell your content. What you are doing is very very wrong and the fact that you are unable to see this is rather frightening.

LMAO... and btw.. you have the audacity to say crap about Paul boinking teens but your sig says

"Promot e 18 Year Old Teens Getting Their Pussys Pounded"

just so hypocrite dude.

dhalia 02-27-2007 04:09 AM

I've seen a lot of your content in your store and I think it looks great. I am learning on production myself and this thread ROCKS! Thanks Paul.

Grapesoda 02-27-2007 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 10393505)
I have no intention of ever becoming a photographer for adult material or any other apart from hobby type stuff :thumbsup

I however fail to see how you could EVER possibly believe that your having sex with *TEENS* is going to help sell your content. What you are doing is very very wrong and the fact that you are unable to see this is rather frightening.

You are probably a great photographer (I have no idea of your work and am not making any judgements on it - just to be clear on this), but your thoughts and views on this particular subject are disturbing IMO.

Anyways, I don't wish to intrude on your thread any longer - icq me if you want to hash it out/abuse me.

you thinks it wrong for a guy that shoots pussy to want to fuck them? -bmb

goldmine 02-28-2007 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 11980635)
you thinks it wrong for a guy that shoots pussy to want to fuck them? -bmb

he's nuts.

JP-pornshooter 02-28-2007 02:39 PM

interesting thread by a photographer who recently posted that the individual style of photography matters nil..
other than that it is a useful thread..for sure. i wish i had read it 5 years ago..

i have mixed emotions about banging the models..i have always stuck to flirting with them as much as possible, get them all worked up, but dont cross the line. Leave the fucking to the male talent if it is a b/g. If it is a solo shoot, she can have fun with a vibrator and you get a great real solo scene..

Chris Corn 02-28-2007 04:14 PM

Where can you get pose sheets or pose examples? Any online sources?

vidvicious 02-28-2007 05:48 PM

Having a melt down Paul? WTF,are you gonna hit the record button for them too ... LOL

Seriously, that's a real good read Paul ... The main point is "think about it" and "don't cut corners", it's very noticable.

vidvicious 02-28-2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Corn (Post 11989833)
Where can you get pose sheets or pose examples? Any online sources?

When I first started shooting porn on a grander scale (approx 5000 + pics a week) I would print up all the poses I liked .. I make it a point to surf other photography websites and look at what pics interests me the most .. Do this and build your self a pose book .. not only does it help you but it's a great tool for new models .. The ones that come in and feel nervous cus it's they're first time .. give them the book and sit her infront of a mirror ...

You could thank me later .. LOL

Fat Duck 02-28-2007 05:57 PM

very good post. a lot of useful tips and info.

Fap 02-28-2007 06:14 PM

great guide you have there, im looking to get into the business. Thanks!:thumbsup

pornpf69 02-28-2007 06:40 PM

nice to see this thread up once again...


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