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NickB. · 06-05-2002, 02:34 AM

You guys know club17.com is the core product of payserve.com right?

Now an original sponsorprogram is trying to copy our brand name:
cashcandy.com

their wannabe seventeen
the original and one and only clubseventeen

their url: www.17s.com
our url: www.club17.com

They're even advertising at thehun!!!!
Even the banners are almost the same!!!!

Their banner
Our banner

Can you believe these guys?
Does anyone knows these wannebe guys?

FlyingIguana · 06-05-2002, 02:37 AM

since when did u guys get a monopoly on 17 year old teen sites?

NickB. · 06-05-2002, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
since when did u guys get a monopoly on 17 year old teen sites?

We had this discussion before!
All models are 18 or over 18 years old,

Clubseventeen is just a brand name, founded before we were babies!

And that's not the main issue here

FlyingIguana · 06-05-2002, 02:43 AM

it doesn't even look like they copied your site. it does have some similarities, but it doesn't look like a copy of your site.

stangster · 06-05-2002, 02:47 AM

Yeah...

I think you're just monopoly hungry...

Mr.Fiction · 06-05-2002, 02:48 AM

Send Horny Rob to kick their sorry asses!

dipshit moron retard · 06-05-2002, 02:49 AM

there are very few if any real similarities between their site and yours. and the banners look nothing alike whatsoever. wtf?

NickB. · 06-05-2002, 02:56 AM

The idea?
brand name?

copycat or not?

Shooter · 06-05-2002, 02:59 AM

I don't really think they're copying you or the brand personally. The similarities between the actual products are few and I don't think you have much to stand on concerning the name either IMO.

FlyingIguana · 06-05-2002, 03:00 AM

do you have a trademark or something on club seventeen? if you do you might have a case since they have 'dutch teenclub seventeen'.

dipshit moron retard · 06-05-2002, 03:00 AM

ok theyre 'dutch teenclub 17' youre 'club17'. both of you guys do the fake 'hollands got the CrAzEE porn!@#' routine. so because theyre hawking pretend 17 year olds from holland they're ripping you off? i don't get it. using this sort of criteria you could blame pretty much everyone for ripping each other off. what is it you think they stole?

Mr.Fiction · 06-05-2002, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nickbaauw
The idea?
brand name?

copycat or not?

I agree that they're copying you, but what can you do? They're not using your trademark exactly and the design is a bit different, even if it uses your style. I'm not sure about the laws where you are, but it would be near impossible to take them down I think.

DrewKole · 06-05-2002, 03:02 AM

Erm, I didnt see 1 damned similiarity between the 2?

I dont really like the young looking girls on EITHER site, and the names are pretty damned stupid... seriously.

The only thing that I saw was that the first site had a pretty damned good designer, it was an interesting tour for sure.

volante · 06-05-2002, 03:04 AM

Don't tell anyone, but this site is very similar to this site ! Same concept, similar adverts, even some of the usernames are the same!

Mr.Fiction · 06-05-2002, 03:05 AM

Hey Nick, out of curiosity, how long have you guys been using the Club Seventeen name? That's really old school, right?

The One · 06-05-2002, 03:05 AM

They aren't that alike..

NickB. · 06-05-2002, 03:07 AM

well, these wannabe's just want to lift with our succes with
dutch teens from Holland, using almost exactly the same name and market approach,

Just wanted to let you all know, to prevent misunderstandings!!
I think it's kind of pathetic how these guys work

NickB. · 06-05-2002, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Hey Nick, out of curiosity, how long have you guys been using the Club Seventeen name? That's really old school, right?

Yeah, the company I work for uses the brand name for 28 years now! so ... that's why we wanted to let you know that these guys are just wannabes!

proffitmaster · 06-05-2002, 03:20 AM

well than theHun should be the only active tgp or McDonalds the only fast food place. You can put a copyright on the design , but their is different from yours as well as domain name doesnt have the same meaning...
I dont know how are they trying to steal anything from you, If your company is running for 28 years they shouldn't even counted as competitors. Just my

FATPad · 06-05-2002, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nickbaauw

They're even advertising at thehun!!!!
Even the banners are almost the same!!!!

They're advertising at the Hun...how utterly strange.

How did you come up with those two banners almost being the same?

I guess they're both vertical...

Matt 26z · 06-05-2002, 03:25 AM

Hey, all the more legal "teeny porn" sites the better. Keeps the pervs from possibly paying for the real thing elsewhere.

meRx · 06-05-2002, 03:31 AM

I don't see much simularity .

raymo · 06-05-2002, 03:33 AM

I would say without a doubt their banner design has been influenced by yours. The design is strikingly similar, so I do believe it is aimed at taking off yours. The header text is mildly suspicious;

<blockquote>        &n bsp;   Dutch   &nbsp ;  TeenClub
Seventeens</blockquote>
I reckon having "...Club" and "Seventeens" in that kind of placement is indicative of a rip off, as well as the title, Dutch Teenclub Seventeens. Last but not least, the general theme - soft tones & girly graphics.

I'm not convinced the similarities are strong enough to hold up legally however. Alternately perhaps you could come up with a cunning plan?

If I was you I too would be pissed.

The million dollar question is, do you believe they're cutting into your bottom line? Also, do you forecast this to happen in the near future (how long have they been operating?)? If neither, and you can't take the legal route, I don't believe you should do a thing.

NickB. · 06-05-2002, 04:12 AM

Raymo,

You're absolutely right!
It 's just to prevent misunderstandings in the future!

They will not be competitors, as the membersection of clubseventeen.com is by far much and much better than theirs,
not only better but also contains far more content which makes longer memberships,

Only they will receive some sales, because surfers think it's us,
that's what I don't like.......

Milton · 06-05-2002, 04:15 AM

nickbaauw
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raymo · 06-05-2002, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nickbaauw
You're absolutely right!
It 's just to prevent misunderstandings in the future!

So you're not all that concerned.....

Quote:

Only they will receive some sales, because surfers think it's us,
that's what I don't like.......

.....Or are you?

If you think they're taking some sales off your brand name, you should definitely do something.

I am now sorta thinking you do have a leg to stand on legally. I advise you to contact a solicitor that specialises in copyright infringements, and better yet, one that also knows their shit in the online adult biz and/or internet law.

NickB. · 06-05-2002, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by raymo
.....I am now sorta thinking you do have a leg to stand on legally. I advise you to contact a solicitor that specialises in copyright infringements, and better yet, one that also knows their shit in the online adult biz and/or internet law.

We will most sertainly!
Thank you very much for your comment!

FATPad · 06-05-2002, 05:03 AM

So far the only thing that even comes close is the use of the word "club" in their subtitle.

Nysus · 06-05-2002, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nickbaauw
The idea?
brand name?

copycat or not?

I think if you think 17 and Seventeen can be copycat, rather then just a common number or spelling of a number is a brand, then you'd assumably think anything with teen in it copied the original teen adult site. I don't think it's a brand issue, at least I don't think it would be worth somehow taking them to court..

Cheers,
Matt

Nysus · 06-05-2002, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nickbaauw

We will most sertainly!
Thank you very much for your comment!

I wouldn't suggest taking one person's comment that is to your liking, and think that is the best option - there are at least 4 or 5 people here that don't think you have a case. Just a thought..

Cheers,
Matt

Naughty · 06-05-2002, 05:59 AM

Wow, that site and the banner don't even look remotely close.
I do have to agree that the word Seventeen is used and that is a well known name of course, but that's it.

raymo · 06-05-2002, 06:54 AM

No probs nickbauuw.

And to the non believers - No one thing can hold legal water on it's own, but collectively, don't you think there may be a case? There are too many similarities to be coincidental. Couple that fact with the header and title and there's a chance.

If nothing else, it's worth investigating. Nobody's saying he should go out guns blazing. :o)

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
I wouldn't suggest taking one person's comment that is to your liking, and think that is the best option

I don't believe anyone on any board takes advice solely because it is to their liking. Discussion boards are for the sharing of ideas and opinions - as nickbauuw takes into consideration what I have to say, he is also considering your point of view. It's a totally level playing field, regardless of which side of the fence you're on.

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
I think if you think 17 and Seventeen can be copycat, rather then just a common number or spelling of a number is a brand, then you'd assumably think anything with teen in it copied the original teen adult site.

This argument is flawed. Nobody's saying they're a copycat simply because they have 17 / Seventeen in their site. It's a combination of several elements, not one.

Naughty, how could you say the banner 'don't even look remotely close'? The models are posing near identical! Not to mention the captions at the bottom: holland for one, and dutch for the other...and..'that's it'? There's a combo of seventeen & club in the name. That is NOT a coincidence, all things considered.

Come on, you can't say that banner hasn't been influenced by the other.

NickB. · 06-05-2002, 07:31 AM

the whole idea and market approach is the same,
you guys can't deny that!

teens from holland
17/ Seventeen
Club
seventeens

It's clear that they are wannabes,
maybe the site is different,
about the banner, it's the style ( same sort of models / pic ) text
etc etc,

about the opinions,
hmmm.....
I think raymo has a real good point of view!

Nysus, what your site's url? or brand name?
If we make a wannabe of your brand name/ market approach, would you be happy mate? guess not~~~!!!

I am concerned of course!

because:
- The surfer will not get what he's looking for ( thereal Seventeen)
- Webmasters might think that 17s.com , is club17
( of course newbies, Most of the webmasters are familiar with our product already ) and start promoting the wrong site!

It can't be denied that this is something to corcern about!
Thinking about our sales and reputation....
true? or false?

LoveAsianChicks · 06-05-2002, 09:28 AM

I'm sorry but I see no trademark or copyright theft.
If you take legal action I would bet 17s.com wins.
You cannot claim to own an entire niche. They design is different from yours as well.

FlyingIguana · 06-05-2002, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nickbaauw
well, these wannabe's just want to lift with our succes with
dutch teens from Holland, using almost exactly the same name and market approach,

Just wanted to let you all know, to prevent misunderstandings!!
I think it's kind of pathetic how these guys work

thats what happens in a competitive market where start up costs are low.

DrGuile · 06-05-2002, 09:38 AM

lol,

They are doing a site with the same theme as you guys, it sucks, but its not illegal...

If you want to know something more interesting about the people behind 17s.com , They run livesexlist.com which steal video feeds from a lot of people.

Now thats low..... and most likely illegal

cherrylula · 06-05-2002, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nickbaauw
well, these wannabe's just want to lift with our succes with
dutch teens from Holland, using almost exactly the same name and market approach,

Just wanted to let you all know, to prevent misunderstandings!!
I think it's kind of pathetic how these guys work

So you're saying if I decide to make a site with blond california teens, I will be copying someone else's idea?

oh puhleeze.

salsbury · 06-05-2002, 10:05 AM

just so you know, i think your banner is a bit broken. its returning a content-type of text/html (IE might ignore that, but it shouldn't). so as it is now it's coming up garbage text.

wired1 · 06-05-2002, 10:42 AM

Im pretty sure you cant trademark "17" or even the word "Seventeen". If you could, every time anyone did math they would have to pay you a royalty...

And as said above, its sucks that someone moves into your market, but there is no law against... If it was a blatant copy yes, but I dont see alot of similarites, other than the Fake 17 thing...

Fletch XXX · 06-05-2002, 11:14 AM

This would be like the Hun thinking he has a copyright on Vikings. LOL

No offense but their front door looks nicer than yours.

alias · 06-05-2002, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrGuile
lol,

They are doing a site with the same theme as you guys, it sucks, but its not illegal...

If you want to know something more interesting about the people behind 17s.com , They run livesexlist.com which steal video feeds from a lot of people.

Now thats low..... and most likely illegal

c17live is always on that list

alias · 06-05-2002, 11:24 AM

Room 001 no less

raymo · 06-05-2002, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LoveAsianChicks
You cannot claim to own an entire niche. They design is different from yours as well.

I don't believe nickbaauw is claiming such a thing.

Quote:

Originally posted by Flying Iguana
thats what happens in a competitive market where start up costs are low.

That would be fine, be it they are not trying to imitate somebody else.

Quote:

Originally posted by DrGuile
They are doing a site with the same theme as you guys, it sucks, but its not illegal...

Not convinced? Check out the banners. *blink* *blink* am I seeing double? *g* It is symmetrically identical in terms of placement of elements - logos and captions - but most of all ... that freakin pose! Even the grrrl's top is pulled up the same way ... !

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
So you're saying if I decide to make a site with blond california teens, I will be copying someone else's idea?

oh puhleeze.

</div></td></tr></table><div align="justify">Nope.
Dutch TeenClub Seventeens aren't only doing the same niche. That's not the issue. The issue is they're doing the same niche along with a strikingly similar branding & banner design (with same caption at bottom, in effect).

In essence; No, I agree, you cannot copyright Seventeen/17, and it does not mean everyone else using it is copying. No, promoting dutch porn as well as a competitor does not mean you're copying. No, using a near same banner as a competitor does not mean you're copying. No, using Club in your name does not mean you're copying. And finally, using a similar marketing approach to a competitor does not mean you're copying. However, employing all of the above certainly does.

I believe Dutch TeenClub Seventeens are trying to capitalise on Club Seventeen's name. In my book that is just not right. </div>

the Shemp · 06-05-2002, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Send Horny Rob to kick their sorry asses!

Where is Horny Rob? I need some new content.......
Is Admiral Krag still around?

shemp

WTF? · 06-05-2002, 01:25 PM

It actualy looks better than the original.

zip · 06-05-2002, 01:30 PM

You inspired them. Be proud...

raymo · 06-05-2002, 01:35 PM

mmm as they say, you built upon what you've got.

DX · 06-05-2002, 01:37 PM

What's so unique about those banners?
I, as well as many others have been making banners like that for the past five years.. there's nothing new or unique about either of them...

spanky · 06-05-2002, 01:37 PM

you should bump this thread after you have spoken to your trademark lawyers. it will be interesting to see what they say about it.

cheers

Fletch XXX · 06-05-2002, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DX
What's so unique about those banners?
I, as well as many others have been making banners like that for the past five years.. there's nothing new or unique about either of them...

havent you noticed, when people can no longer push the envelope they start calling Legalities. Thats how it works.

You cant be Top Dog forever.

My Life For AIUR!

06-05-2002, 02:34 AM	#1
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	fake ass wannabe's , you won't believe this! You guys know club17.com is the core product of payserve.com right? Now an original sponsorprogram is trying to copy our brand name: cashcandy.com their wannabe seventeen the original and one and only clubseventeen their url: www.17s.com our url: www.club17.com They're even advertising at thehun!!!! Even the banners are almost the same!!!! Their banner Our banner Can you believe these guys? Does anyone knows these wannebe guys?

06-05-2002, 02:47 AM	#5
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06-05-2002, 03:00 AM	#11
dipshit moron retard Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 667	ok theyre 'dutch teenclub 17' youre 'club17'. both of you guys do the fake 'hollands got the CrAzEE porn!@#' routine. so because theyre hawking pretend 17 year olds from holland they're ripping you off? i don't get it. using this sort of criteria you could blame pretty much everyone for ripping each other off. what is it you think they stole? Last edited by dipshit moron retard; 06-05-2002 at 03:01 AM..

06-05-2002, 03:05 AM	#16
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06-05-2002, 03:31 AM	#22
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06-05-2002, 02:37 AM	#2
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	since when did u guys get a monopoly on 17 year old teen sites?

06-05-2002, 02:43 AM	#4
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	it doesn't even look like they copied your site. it does have some similarities, but it doesn't look like a copy of your site.

06-05-2002, 02:48 AM	#6
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Send Horny Rob to kick their sorry asses!

06-05-2002, 02:49 AM	#7
dipshit moron retard Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 667	there are very few if any real similarities between their site and yours. and the banners look nothing alike whatsoever. wtf?

06-05-2002, 02:56 AM	#8
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	The idea? brand name? copycat or not?

06-05-2002, 02:59 AM	#9
Shooter Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,842	I don't really think they're copying you or the brand personally. The similarities between the actual products are few and I don't think you have much to stand on concerning the name either IMO.

06-05-2002, 03:02 AM	#13
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Erm, I didnt see 1 damned similiarity between the 2? I dont really like the young looking girls on EITHER site, and the names are pretty damned stupid... seriously. The only thing that I saw was that the first site had a pretty damned good designer, it was an interesting tour for sure.

06-05-2002, 03:04 AM	#14
volante Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LAX Immigration Posts: 2,940	Don't tell anyone, but this site is very similar to this site ! Same concept, similar adverts, even some of the usernames are the same!

06-05-2002, 03:07 AM	#17
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	well, these wannabe's just want to lift with our succes with dutch teens from Holland, using almost exactly the same name and market approach, Just wanted to let you all know, to prevent misunderstandings!! I think it's kind of pathetic how these guys work

06-05-2002, 03:20 AM	#19
proffitmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 134	well than theHun should be the only active tgp or McDonalds the only fast food place. You can put a copyright on the design , but their is different from yours as well as domain name doesnt have the same meaning... I dont know how are they trying to steal anything from you, If your company is running for 28 years they shouldn't even counted as competitors. Just my

06-05-2002, 03:25 AM	#21
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Hey, all the more legal "teeny porn" sites the better. Keeps the pervs from possibly paying for the real thing elsewhere.

06-05-2002, 03:33 AM	#23
raymo Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: AU Posts: 96	I would say without a doubt their banner design has been influenced by yours. The design is strikingly similar, so I do believe it is aimed at taking off yours. The header text is mildly suspicious; <blockquote>        &n bsp;   Dutch   &nbsp ;  TeenClub Seventeens</blockquote> I reckon having "...Club" and "Seventeens" in that kind of placement is indicative of a rip off, as well as the title, <i>Dutch Teen<b>club Seventeen</b>s</i>. Last but not least, the general theme - soft tones & girly graphics. I'm not convinced the similarities are strong enough to hold up legally however. Alternately perhaps you could come up with a cunning plan? If I was you I too would be pissed. The million dollar question is, do you believe they're cutting into your bottom line? Also, do you forecast this to happen in the near future (how long have they been operating?)? If neither, and you can't take the legal route, I don't believe you should do a thing. __________________ <br>my weeds have sprouted

06-05-2002, 04:12 AM	#24
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	Raymo, You're absolutely right! It 's just to prevent misunderstandings in the future! They will not be competitors, as the membersection of clubseventeen.com is by far much and much better than theirs, not only better but also contains far more content which makes longer memberships, Only they will receive some sales, because surfers think it's us, that's what I don't like.......

06-05-2002, 04:15 AM	#25
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06-05-2002, 05:03 AM	#28
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	So far the only thing that even comes close is the use of the word "club" in their subtitle. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

06-05-2002, 05:59 AM	#31
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	Wow, that site and the banner don't even look remotely close. I do have to agree that the word Seventeen is used and that is a well known name of course, but that's it.

06-05-2002, 07:31 AM	#33
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	the whole idea and market approach is the same, you guys can't deny that! teens from holland 17/ Seventeen Club seventeens It's clear that they are wannabes, maybe the site is different, about the banner, it's the style ( same sort of models / pic ) text etc etc, about the opinions, hmmm..... I think raymo has a real good point of view! Nysus, what your site's url? or brand name? If we make a wannabe of your brand name/ market approach, would you be happy mate? guess not~~~!!! I am concerned of course! because: - The surfer will not get what he's looking for ( thereal Seventeen) - Webmasters might think that 17s.com , is club17 ( of course newbies, Most of the webmasters are familiar with our product already ) and start promoting the wrong site! It can't be denied that this is something to corcern about! Thinking about our sales and reputation.... true? or false? Last edited by NickB.; 06-05-2002 at 07:34 AM..

06-05-2002, 09:28 AM	#34
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	I'm sorry but I see no trademark or copyright theft. If you take legal action I would bet 17s.com wins. You cannot claim to own an entire niche. They design is different from yours as well. Last edited by LoveAsianChicks; 06-05-2002 at 09:33 AM..

06-05-2002, 09:38 AM	#36
DrGuile Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,025	lol, They are doing a site with the same theme as you guys, it sucks, but its not illegal... If you want to know something more interesting about the people behind 17s.com , They run livesexlist.com which steal video feeds from a lot of people. Now thats low..... and most likely illegal __________________ LiveBucks / Privatefeeds - Giving you money since 1999 Up to 50% Commission! 25% Webmaster Referal Powered by Gamma

06-05-2002, 10:05 AM	#38
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06-05-2002, 10:42 AM	#39
wired1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Posts: 279	Im pretty sure you cant trademark "17" or even the word "Seventeen". If you could, every time anyone did math they would have to pay you a royalty... And as said above, its sucks that someone moves into your market, but there is no law against... If it was a blatant copy yes, but I dont see alot of similarites, other than the Fake 17 thing...

06-05-2002, 11:14 AM	#40
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06-05-2002, 01:25 PM	#45
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06-05-2002, 01:30 PM	#46
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06-05-2002, 01:35 PM	#47
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06-05-2002, 01:37 PM	#48
DX Feed me coffee. Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Massafuckingchusetts Posts: 1,128	What's so unique about those banners? I, as well as many others have been making banners like that for the past five years.. there's nothing new or unique about either of them...

06-05-2002, 01:37 PM	#49
spanky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 231	you should bump this thread after you have spoken to your trademark lawyers. it will be interesting to see what they say about it. cheers