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seeric 07-10-2006 07:30 AM

dude you stress entirely too much for your age. enjoy your young life while you can. no wonder you have ED problems sometimes. shit bro. go enjoy some of your money, bang a bunch of girls, party, live life, if you work half as much as you do now you'll still make more than 50% of gfy. everytime i read something you are either stressing or worrying about something. i don't like to see people so young so wrapped up already. if you dont stop stressing so much i'll outlive you yo. just my two cents, and i only say that because of all the stuff i see you write and stress i see you under.

have some fun without expecting it. i think you expect too much sometimes. just my opinion man and i want nothing but good things for ya.

Why 07-10-2006 07:38 AM

thats the problem with spamming software dude. once you pay them to write a spamming script using a new idea. they take it and use it for themself.... thats why you have to learn to code :)

Twisted Dave 07-10-2006 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFX Wiz
The problem is you'e not hiring "designers" -- merely people who own Photoshop who need money.

Hire a professional designer and you won't have this problem. What is a professional designer?

- A professional designer is someone who is busy and not immediately available.
- A professional designer is someone who will let you know how long they are booked for before they can take on new work
- A professional designer is spoken highly of on the boards and has been -- FOR YEARS
- A professional designer has a recognizable name -- FOR YEARS
- A professional designer will never overbook himself just to get YOUR job. He (or she) knows that overbooking only leads to disappointed clients and a short career as a freelancer
- A PROFESSIONAL designer will NOT be the lowest price. They might be the HIGHEST price. You get what you pay for. Be cheap you might get nothing for your dollar.

These threads are as tiresome to read on GFY as any of AMP's hallucino-psycho rants. They are predictable and they are nice for professional designers to read so they can see who the cheap-asses are that we will never want as a client.


Sorry man but let me say something...

"A professional designer is someone who is busy and not immediately available"
Absolute rubbish. A professional designer doesn't ALWAYS have work on. That's a ludicrous thing to say.

"A professional designer is spoken highly of on the boards and has been -- FOR YEARS"
Again, rubbish. The internet, and the 'boards' is FAR from being the only place that designers frequent, and clients talk about. For instance... I regard myself as a professional... I've been working professionally in art and design for 10 years now. Many of those years, I was working in videogames, where I worked on many high profile titles, such as SSX, FIFA, Madden, Need for Speed... Because I've not been around for more than a few months in the adult industry, on the forums, that suddently takes away my professionalism? Again... ludicrous.

Some of your points are valid... but some make it sound like YOU yourself, aren't a professional. I'm not questioning that... just saying you should think about what you've said. Because the points above are entirely untrue.

Kimo 07-10-2006 08:00 AM

i fucked up because i was thinking of a shitty lost project where i got fucked by a designer and a coder, and it was actually outside of adult! but the one designer whos work is the best around and not only meets but BEATS his deadlines is http://www.twistedillustration.com/

if he ever fucks you over icq me personally and ill kick his ass for you!

Ayla_SquareTurtle 07-10-2006 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFX Wiz

These threads are as tiresome to read on GFY as any of AMP's hallucino-psycho rants. They are predictable and they are nice for professional designers to read so they can see who the cheap-asses are that we will never want as a client.

hahaha, I love it. :thumbsup

chupachups 07-10-2006 08:05 AM

Maybe they met with accident? :glugglug

Sosa 07-10-2006 08:05 AM

Find a good designer and stick with them

buddyjuf 07-12-2006 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
dude you stress entirely too much for your age. enjoy your young life while you can. no wonder you have ED problems sometimes. shit bro. go enjoy some of your money, bang a bunch of girls, party, live life, if you work half as much as you do now you'll still make more than 50% of gfy. everytime i read something you are either stressing or worrying about something. i don't like to see people so young so wrapped up already. if you dont stop stressing so much i'll outlive you yo. just my two cents, and i only say that because of all the stuff i see you write and stress i see you under.

have some fun without expecting it. i think you expect too much sometimes. just my opinion man and i want nothing but good things for ya.

:thumbsup I missed you dude!

L0rdJuni0r 07-12-2006 02:44 PM

i have the same issue with designers...

woj 07-12-2006 02:46 PM

50.......... :)

turner050 07-12-2006 02:46 PM

very true

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal
It's tough sometimes ... I can't speak for programmers, but as a designer I can tell you that there are days that 'the shit' just does not flow. That being said, I'm not going to send a client something that Im not happy with. I guess it's a lot like roofing ... some days its going to rain and there's nothing you can do about it.


Jamie 07-12-2006 02:48 PM

Dickmans Design - professional and met the deadlines. You pay for what you get, and overall they were very reasonabley priced.

I went through 12 designers in the last 6 months. Dickmans, Webinc and Tender are the only ones I'll use again.

Verbal 07-12-2006 02:50 PM

I guess it comes down to keeping a client informed. If you think you are going to be a couple of days late, at least let the client know so they are aware of it. What I hate is when somebody tells you when something is going to be done and the mysteriously disappear from the earth until you see them a week later and they show you some shitty, slapped-together project.

dynastoned 07-12-2006 02:50 PM

they say they'll get it done fast to get your business. they are afraid if they say a month instead of 2 weeks you'll say you need it done faster and are going to look elsewhere. at least i know some do this. im sure there are other factors for different people also.

munki 07-12-2006 02:51 PM

It can be a 2 sided street.

Designers programmers may underquote, or for lack of better terms quote for a perfect scenario, and end up overshooting a deadline, just trying to book a client with all of the competition, especially overseas stuff.

Also keep in mind, a lot of the times, people will add in last minute "really simple" changes to designs/coding, that cause the designer or programmer to have to redo or rethink certain sections.

chowda 07-12-2006 02:54 PM

some programmers are bad, i got one that fucked me and pushed my project aside..

Tylo 07-12-2006 03:30 PM

Pretty interesting...

There are some good points here and some that cracked me up.. Good shit!!

sarettah 07-12-2006 04:33 PM

you usually get what you pay for. :thumbsup

Bruno 07-18-2006 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie
Dickmans Design - professional and met the deadlines. You pay for what you get, and overall they were very reasonabley priced.

I went through 12 designers in the last 6 months. Dickmans, Webinc and Tender are the only ones I'll use again.

Thanks so much for the kind words Jamie!! :thumbsup

We do our best everyday! Cheers and kind regards,

Bruno Dickman

teksonline 07-18-2006 09:59 AM

This is funny, someone on icq the other day asked me how long to take to do a script, i said about a week's work, they said no way they can get someone to do it in 1-2 days, I stopped all communication instantly, realized this is a peanut payer, who wants something for nothing, then I watch the forums to see project was flaked on... as they always are... fact is you hired a script kiddy, who after 4 hours of work went to sleep and can't get motiviated to get back on the project, problaby has half your cash and can careless...

Maybe it's your hiring skills that need work, maybe you think a project is simple but don't realize there's time to implement and test. all of which you are not paying the programmer for... Maybe you don't realize all the tedious bullshit that is needed for the simplest of scripts? For that you will get screwed... Fact is, the minute you say, "I can get someone to do this in x amount of time", the good programmer can give a shit less about you....
realizes you are in minor league ball park and moves on.


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