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Aquarius · 03-31-2005, 06:04 PM

What program should I use?

Thanks in advance

cambaby · 03-31-2005, 06:06 PM

Percentage

Aquarius · 03-31-2005, 06:19 PM

How are you people converting with the "pay per order" program? is it new?

Aquarius · 04-01-2005, 12:41 AM

Bump

8 chrs

V_RocKs · 04-01-2005, 12:43 AM

Revshare... it pays you a shitload... PPC pays you literally in pennies and they just don't add up like $24 payouts do.

hydro · 04-01-2005, 12:45 AM

your a sucker if you take ppc over revshare on AFF

Aquarius · 04-01-2005, 12:46 AM

What about the "pay per oder" has someone tried it?

xclusive · 04-01-2005, 12:46 AM

revshare all the way

Penthouse Tony · 04-04-2005, 01:34 PM

Both programs are equaly compelling. We don't offer two hoping that affiliates will choose one over the other. We offer two options because different affiliates have different needs.

If you need more money upfront and fast I'd say use the PPC. If you are confident in your traffic's quality and have time to wait for rebills to come in I'd say try the rev-share program.

All affliliates are allowed to open multiple accounts and test concurrently so ultimately you can be the judge of what will suit you best.

spideriux · 04-04-2005, 01:35 PM

% is better for me

megatgpdotnet · 04-04-2005, 01:58 PM

Percentage program is better imo...

First, you get paid bonus for free signups and dating sites can convert free user to paying user multiple times and even several months after free signup.

Antonio · 04-04-2005, 02:20 PM

percentage

Xenophage · 04-04-2005, 02:24 PM

Percentage if your willing to be patient, you will make more $$

Rui · 04-04-2005, 03:53 PM

I want to b different so: PPC

J/K go with percentage

KRL · 04-04-2005, 04:23 PM

% % % % %

Always where members will be rebilled extensively!

Xenophage · 04-27-2005, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

% % % % %

Always where members will be rebilled extensively!

YUP I agree totally !

Penthouse Tony · 06-09-2005, 03:08 PM

Zuzana Designs · 06-09-2005, 03:14 PM

I like that tank top

how can I get one of those ?? it would kickass if it had your ref code on it.. i bet people in the store and where ever I went would remember it.

Xenophage · 06-09-2005, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zuzanadesign

I like that tank top

how can I get one of those ?? it would kickass if it had your ref code on it.. i bet people in the store and where ever I went would remember it.

we will ahve some tank tops at eh San Diego show if you are there

betsy · 06-09-2005, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

% % % % %

Always where members will be rebilled extensively!

this is a smart person, listen to him.

TurboAngel · 06-09-2005, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

That was the best thing to send me huh?

$5 submissions · 06-09-2005, 03:31 PM

Percentage. It's a protection against the contingency of your traffic sources dying or changing. Gives you enough income while you find other traffic sources/filter models.

Penthouse Tony · 06-09-2005, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

That was the best thing to send me huh?

Oh yeah!

lesbodojo · 06-09-2005, 03:33 PM

Rev share rocks the house, blood. You'll make BANK off of rebills.

If anyone wants to talk about our prorgram, I'm always available. Feel free to hit me up on ICQ. I never tire of helping you make more money and creating new tools to convert your traffic.

Seriously. Talk to me.

mkx · 06-09-2005, 03:37 PM

Rev share, ppc will make you less and if it makes you more your conversions probably suck and you will be converted to rev share anyways ;)

strobi · 06-09-2005, 03:48 PM

%

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Houdini · 06-09-2005, 03:53 PM

Looks like they just added $30 per sign up too. I'd still go with %.

Xenophage · 06-30-2005, 03:26 PM

Yuppo The % is the best way to go !

V_RocKs · 06-30-2005, 03:38 PM

Revshare kicks ass there. I used payperclick for about 3 months and didn't even think about it, then one day switched to revshare and my money increased ten fold!

lesbodojo · 06-30-2005, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Revshare kicks ass there. I used payperclick for about 3 months and didn't even think about it, then one day switched to revshare and my money increased ten fold!

That's rad. I'm so happy to hear that you switched to our Rev Share with Recurring + bonus payout model. People end up making BANK off of the longterm recurring $. Our retention is legendary.

Xenophage · 07-01-2005, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesbodojo

That's rad. I'm so happy to hear that you switched to our Rev Share with Recurring + bonus payout model. People end up making BANK off of the longterm recurring $. Our retention is legendary.

ohh I like that Our Retention is Legendary.... new marketing line coming soon

You Rock

natas · 07-01-2005, 10:13 AM

revshare kicks ass and gets better every month.

keep pushing traffic and watch your totals go up, and up, and up

Xenophage · 07-08-2005, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natas

revshare kicks ass and gets better every month.

keep pushing traffic and watch your totals go up, and up, and up

Yeah its nutty affter about 6 months on revshare with steady traffic nothing else compares

Xenophage · 07-15-2005, 07:21 AM

I know this is for cams but it works teh same for Adult Friend Finder

I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative.

first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time.

As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make.

And on to the real hat trick
In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual.

Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later.

On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year.

This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that !

Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around

VicD · 07-15-2005, 07:30 AM

revshare is good for me

TurboAngel · 07-15-2005, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

I know this is for cams but it works teh same for Adult Friend Finder

I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative.

first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time.

As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make.

And on to the real hat trick
In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual.

Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later.

On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year.

This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that !

Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around

raster · 07-17-2005, 10:57 PM

What is the average number of months a user remains a member once he upgrades his free membership to a payed one on AFF?

Mr Pheer · 07-17-2005, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raster

What is the average number of months a user remains a member once he upgrades his free membership to a payed one on AFF?

We would all like to have that information in our stats, but AFF just wont give it to us

LiveDose · 07-17-2005, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarius

What about the "pay per oder" has someone tried it?

I heard it stinks.

teleblade69 · 07-18-2005, 12:13 AM

% for sure

SeniorX · 07-18-2005, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raster

What is the average number of months a user remains a member once he upgrades his free membership to a payed one on AFF?

bump

llporter · 07-18-2005, 07:39 AM

Does anyone think that AFF is over exposed?

Manowar · 07-18-2005, 07:48 AM

def percentage on Adult Friend Finder... it will make you the most

Xenophage · 07-18-2005, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llporter

Does anyone think that AFF is over exposed?

no in dating sites you want them to be big and promoted heavy, People want to be where the action is. Like 2 bars one is crowded and full of hot chicks teh other has 3 doods on a stool where ya wanna be to hook up and get laid ?

Go with the biggest and best !

Also if you feel this way you can promote PASSION.COM which is a rocking alternative for Adult Friend Finder !

Dalai lama · 07-18-2005, 07:53 AM

Percentage

Dalai lama · 07-18-2005, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llporter

Does anyone think that AFF is over exposed?

Dating is never over exposed

Manowar · 07-18-2005, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llporter

Does anyone think that AFF is over exposed?

Nope, the exposure probably HELPS sales

Xenophage · 07-18-2005, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar

Nope, the exposure probably HELPS sales

Yes this is correct !

Xenophage · 07-21-2005, 12:09 AM

Xenophage · 07-23-2005, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalai lama

Dating is never over exposed

EXACTLY

03-31-2005, 06:04 PM	#1
Aquarius Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mom's basement Posts: 4,754	Adult Friend Finder - % or PPC? What program should I use? Thanks in advance

04-01-2005, 12:46 AM	#8
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	revshare all the way __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

04-04-2005, 01:34 PM	#9
Penthouse Tony Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 5,835	Both programs are equaly compelling. We don't offer two hoping that affiliates will choose one over the other. We offer two options because different affiliates have different needs. If you need more money upfront and fast I'd say use the PPC. If you are confident in your traffic's quality and have time to wait for rebills to come in I'd say try the rev-share program. All affliliates are allowed to open multiple accounts and test concurrently so ultimately you can be the judge of what will suit you best. __________________ aamos AT FFN dot com Penthouse.com Business Development ICQ: 49090846 \| Yahoo IM: ff_aamos

04-04-2005, 01:35 PM	#10
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04-04-2005, 01:58 PM	#11
megatgpdotnet Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: EU Posts: 1,296	Percentage program is better imo... First, you get paid bonus for free signups and dating sites can convert free user to paying user multiple times and even several months after free signup. __________________ ICQ: 343 896 902 \| Traffic: Buy and Sell \| My top sponsors: Dating (1:26 fs) \| Webcams (20% lifetime) \| $25 / free signup \| Paysites (trials, crossells, alternative billing) \| Other Stuff .com domains $7.99 \| Dreamhost promo codes \| Cheap quality content \| Embed Tube Script Toplists: 1 \| 2

03-31-2005, 06:06 PM	#2
cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	Percentage

03-31-2005, 06:19 PM	#3
Aquarius Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mom's basement Posts: 4,754	How are you people converting with the "pay per order" program? is it new?

04-01-2005, 12:41 AM	#4
Aquarius Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mom's basement Posts: 4,754	Bump 8 chrs

04-01-2005, 12:43 AM	#5
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	Revshare... it pays you a shitload... PPC pays you literally in pennies and they just don't add up like $24 payouts do.

04-01-2005, 12:45 AM	#6
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	your a sucker if you take ppc over revshare on AFF

04-04-2005, 02:20 PM	#12
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	percentage

04-04-2005, 02:24 PM	#13
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Percentage if your willing to be patient, you will make more $$

04-04-2005, 03:53 PM	#14
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04-04-2005, 04:23 PM	#15
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06-09-2005, 03:08 PM	#17
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06-09-2005, 03:14 PM	#18
Zuzana Designs All Your Design Needs Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: [email protected] Posts: 20,877	I like that tank top how can I get one of those ?? it would kickass if it had your ref code on it.. i bet people in the store and where ever I went would remember it. __________________ Website Design - Consulting - Development sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com - See Our Work

06-09-2005, 03:31 PM	#22
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Percentage. It's a protection against the contingency of your traffic sources dying or changing. Gives you enough income while you find other traffic sources/filter models. __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

06-09-2005, 03:33 PM	#24
lesbodojo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,839	See the AFF logo. Feel the bling. Rev share rocks the house, blood. You'll make BANK off of rebills. If anyone wants to talk about our prorgram, I'm always available. Feel free to hit me up on ICQ. I never tire of helping you make more money and creating new tools to convert your traffic. Seriously. Talk to me. __________________ Adult DVDs + Amateur Video Mobile Porn (iPad, Android, iPhone, + Palm Pre) Promote SkinVideo! Payoneer Payouts Available! Let's talk! icq 328.047.782 aim/yim/skype: lesbodojo or lesbodojo at skinvideo dot com Last edited by lesbodojo; 06-09-2005 at 03:34 PM..

06-09-2005, 03:37 PM	#25
mkx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,001	Rev share, ppc will make you less and if it makes you more your conversions probably suck and you will be converted to rev share anyways ;)

06-09-2005, 03:48 PM	#26
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	% ......................

06-09-2005, 03:53 PM	#27
Houdini Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,651	Looks like they just added $30 per sign up too. I'd still go with %.

06-30-2005, 03:26 PM	#28
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Yuppo The % is the best way to go !

06-30-2005, 03:38 PM	#29
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	Revshare kicks ass there. I used payperclick for about 3 months and didn't even think about it, then one day switched to revshare and my money increased ten fold!

07-01-2005, 10:13 AM	#32
natas Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: : unknown Posts: 3,377	revshare kicks ass and gets better every month. keep pushing traffic and watch your totals go up, and up, and up

07-15-2005, 07:21 AM	#34
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	I know this is for cams but it works teh same for Adult Friend Finder I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative. first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time. As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make. And on to the real hat trick In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual. Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later. On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year. This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that ! Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around

07-15-2005, 07:30 AM	#35
VicD ICQ: 304-611-162 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Masterdam Posts: 13,245	revshare is good for me

07-17-2005, 10:57 PM	#37
raster Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 784	What is the average number of months a user remains a member once he upgrades his free membership to a payed one on AFF?

07-18-2005, 12:13 AM	#40
teleblade69 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,063	% for sure __________________

07-18-2005, 07:39 AM	#42
llporter Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,221	Does anyone think that AFF is over exposed?

07-18-2005, 07:48 AM	#43
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	def percentage on Adult Friend Finder... it will make you the most

07-18-2005, 07:53 AM	#45
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07-21-2005, 12:09 AM	#49
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122