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Hell i own over 50 fire arms never had to show ID for any of them all bought from private partys. Except for 2 that are Class3 , and i had to go through a long process to be able to own them even had to get a letter from the Chief of police stating i was not going to use the silencer or my MG for any crimes. But before i bought these weapons they told me it was a long process , they just didnt sell them to me and say , hey man you have to go through all these back ground checks and get letters from the Chief of police for the city you reside in. |
How can you even compare asking for ID for porn signups and getting a dedicated server, which can be used for malicious purposes and potentially cause hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages.
They are protecting their own asses for both fraud & security. Any host that doesn't authenticate won't be around for long, and I wouldn't trust hosting anything with them. |
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For a little TGP and a link dump i wasnt looking to over throw the goverment with it and take over the world LOL. The only thing that upset me was there was nothing on the form saying ID was mandatory, i never heard of the company someone recomended them to me and i thought it was a bit shady asking for all this billing info then mailing me the next day for a copy of my ID. |
WEBAIR ROCKS .. Best Host I have ever had !! woot woot to Mike and the webair crew
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If webair told me to FLY over and leave my fingerprints, I would have! Because hosting with webair is the fucking best. Period!
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Yes, Webair has always been good to me been there for 8 months now.
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sorry to hear about yer woes man
i never had that great of an experience with webair either |
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One thing i have learned on this board over the past 4 years is
that it is full of hypocrites and suck asses and those hypocrites and suck asses are the root to the Adult buisness having a bad name , take for instance someone like nofx posting the truth about crosssales you guys went into a uproar , hell even the loadies over at Wegcash posted personal shit about him on here out of spite. For Example: To me there is a big difference in advertising on myspace and scamming surfers for millions of dollars a year but you guys are to stupid or just to blind to see that or maybe your just to busy french kissing each others asses. I could sit here and post exapmles for the next 6 months 24 hours aday. My Point: If every processer went and took the surfers billing info and then mailed them the next day telling them they cant have access to the site until they fax over a copy of thier photo ID, you guys would go crazy and loose thousands and some of you guys even millions every year, plus piss off alot of people. Or hey maybe even this , how about if US law made it mandatory for every website owner to have a copy of his or her ID on the billing form so they know who they are buying a membership from and know its legit. Hmmmmm i wonder if you guys would be all for that ? Most of you guys need to wake the fuck up and look in the mirror because karma is going to come back on you like like flys on an Ethiopian. |
they are doing this for your own good, but the pussy is always better on the other side I guess. Webair rocks
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Fucking moron....waaa waaa i am too lazy to do a simple task...fucking asshat |
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Go buy yourself a fucking clue........ |
uhmm no one answer my question. ok i'll change that! so every hosting company around now a days are freely to ask scanned id's and cc's (front and back). do you think consumers are also safe? im getting a server this week but im having a doubt to send my id/info and esp my cc. any thoughts?
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Even if I was building a site for the Church I would not want some hosting company (let alone an adult one) having copies of gov. issued ID with all personal info on it.
Real scammers would use false ID / photoshopped ID anyways. |
webair Sucks!!
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This is no different than the people at {Insert Store Name} asking for your ID when you make a purchase. There's a big difference between signing up for a paysite and actually purchasing a hosting account. You're using their server to post content (whatever it may be). This exponentially increases their liability.
You shouldn't blame them for being cautious. Maybe they should say somewhere that they may require an ID, but I think this was overreacting just a bit. If you've ever had your card stolen and used (especially a debit card draining a bank account unexpectedly), you'd appreciate them asking for verification. WebAir is great. I don't see where they did anything wrong. |
You'll learn what unlimited bandwidth is when the pipe is so clogged with traffic that no one can reach your websites.
My first sites were a co-lo deal back in 1994. I wanted to save money (bandwidth was $12.50 a gig back then) so looked into unlimited bandwidth. My sysadmin gave me some great advice. "Yes, the bandwidth is unlimited. But, it's like saying you can have all the gasoline you want from this million gallon tank. Oh, by the way, here is the cocktail straw for you to remove the gas from the tank." |
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webair rocks, and it does mention the photo ID during the sign up process
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By law once you send them a copy of your state ID & CC , you can request that they destroy the copy of your ID & CC after they varafied its you , if they do not destroy it , you can actully file criminal charges against them for being in possession of it , it's very ilegal for them to be in possession of your ID and keep it on file , you can do the same with an employer. |
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its ALOT different, if i goto wal-mart and buy a pack of smokes and the guy at the counter asks for my id to make sure im of age, i doubt he goes to the office and scans it, then gives it back... he looks at it and gives it back... way different then a company asking for a scan of your id, you don't know if they grab your address and shit off it, and sell that to people to send you shit in the mail, or if they distroy it after verifying you're legit.. my host just had to call me to verify my account, no ID or anything, just a phone call to get some things and they were done |
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Yes, they will destroy is for sure. In fact just you asking for them to destroy it will make sure they make 10 copies of it and save it forever.
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We use them for Satancash and Mobbucks ... never had a problem
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I did misword what I meant though. It's not the same thing. I just meant they are trying to accomplish the same goal. So yeah, my analogy does suck big dick. I was just trying to say they're trying to cover themselves, not just make the process intentionally a pain the ass for everyone. |
We have systems in place (as do many other companies) to check and prevent fraud automatically. This person signed up for a virtual account, and was red flagged by our processing company for one reason or another, so we requested an ID to accompany the credit card. Is this such an unreasonable request? In order to prevent charge-backs, fraudulent accounts, and protect our own interests in whom we do business with, when accounts do not meet the fraud protection minimum standards to pass through automatically we request additional ID. This is set up to protect our company and to protect malicious activity from occurring on our networks.
When you have hundreds or thousands of accounts passing through your systems on a daily basis you need to take certain precautions to guard against fraud. It's not that difficult to verify the validity of a credit card. I do not think it's unreasonable to ask for additional information if a persons account does not meet the requirements set forth by our merchant company. In fact by implementing these precautions webair has managed to maintain a zero percent charge back ratio for years. |
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