I bought a new car. Explain six gears to me!

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  • 3M TA3
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2005
    • 2972
    #101
    Originally posted by jayeff
    Yep. Unless the powerband is very narrow, which is unlikely with a (big) US engine and a supercharger (I assume, since R asked about them), four gears would be plenty. Several have confirmed that with the comments about first and I would guess that 6th is effectively an overdrive.

    BTW what did you want to know about superchargers? Basically they do the same job as turbochargers - pump more air/gas into the engine - with the difference that they are (belt) driven by the engine and not the exhaust. That's slightly less efficient, but on the plus side they start working as soon as the engine is running, whereas turbochargers don't kick in until they hit whatever rev range they were designed for. Although modern turbochargers are improved a lot, some still suffer lag when you put your foot down. Not a problem with a supercharger.

    good post

    not sure what the final drive ratio is on this car, however, there are plenty of uses for 6 gears. Most performance drivers with narrow gears will skip a gear when dragging, however, when pulling out of turns it is nice to have that narrow power band so you can get that engine turning at the right speed to pull you out with the power at your toes.

    I don't know how well the car does on the skid pad or how well it throws it's weight around but there's a reason F1 has so many gears.

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      • jayeff
        Confirmed User
        • May 2001
        • 2944
        #102
        Originally posted by 3M TA3
        there's a reason F1 has so many gears.
        Narrow power bands.

        F1 cars usually have 6 or 7 speeds and they need that many because their torque doesn't really kick in until not far short of the 19,000 or so rpm the engines max out at. So if the engine isn't kept spinning fast, they wouldn't be capable of the acceleration they need.

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          • pornguy
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            • Mar 2003
            • 62912
            #103
            I have not had stick in a few years, and I had no idea they were at 6 gears.
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              • ultimatebbwdotcom
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2006
                • 591
                #104
                Originally posted by pornguy
                I have not had stick in a few years, and I had no idea they were at 6 gears.
                They've been around since the early 1990's.

                I think my first was 1994, on a mk4 twin turbo supra- sweet machine.
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                  • 3M TA3
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 2972
                    #105
                    Originally posted by jayeff
                    Narrow power bands.

                    F1 cars usually have 6 or 7 speeds and they need that many because their torque doesn't really kick in until not far short of the 19,000 or so rpm the engines max out at. So if the engine isn't kept spinning fast, they wouldn't be capable of the acceleration they need.

                    Yep, Honda is running at about 19,500 RPM - even tho they are extreemly light engines it still has a high power curve and you'll slow down if you only had 4 or 5 gears to choose from to come out of the corner.

                    Again, i don't know what the final drive ration of the stang is, or what the top RPM, but i'm sure those gear will help it get out of it's way when pushing its self out of a corner.

                    worst case, you'll get great gas milage if you can keep it under 50 and in 6th gear.

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                      • MyNameIsNobody
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 2947
                        #106
                        this is hilarious.. Did you actually buy a car that you can't drive?

                        Or are you able to drive a 5 gear car but not a 6..?

                        Isn't there a class to take for you american ppl who wants to drive a stick? I mean, it takes at least some practise..

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                          • hjnet
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 3815
                            #107
                            Originally posted by thinkx
                            lol yeah its a joke we make bout belgium ppl, the R stands for RACING
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                              • MyNameIsNobody
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 2947
                                #108
                                Hey, I just found two nice articles..^^

                                http://www.melvindurai.com/shift.htm

                                http://www.answerbag.com/q_view.php/25494

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                                  • cellmoresmut
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2004
                                    • 149
                                    #109
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                                      • Rochard
                                        Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 75733
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by MyNameIsNobody
                                        this is hilarious.. Did you actually buy a car that you can't drive?

                                        Or are you able to drive a 5 gear car but not a 6..?

                                        Isn't there a class to take for you american ppl who wants to drive a stick? I mean, it takes at least some practise..
                                        I know how to drive a five speed, and the sixth gear isn't rocket science. I'm asking how it's best used.
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                                          • Rui
                                            web
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 9533
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                            What are you, stupid?

                                            He's not asking how to drive a standard. He's asking how to drive one with six gears instead of the five gears most cars here usually have.
                                            retard....


                                            Originally posted by ultimatebbwdotcom
                                            The only reason someone would ask "how do i drive a manual 6 speed?" is if you'd NEVER driven a manual. Anyone who had driven a manual 5 speed wouldnt be asking what happens when you get into another manual with an extra gear - simple, when you've finished with 5 or break redline......... shift to 6, revs drop....lol.

                                            So Rui isnt stupid to say that, he's probably just european like myself. Most europeans learn to drive in manuals, which is why this question would NEVER arise.
                                            Dont waste your time with him...some people just don't get it...


                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                            I know how to drive a stick. I had a three speed once, but never a six speed. It just feel so strange having that extra gear.
                                            I can relate to that if that 6th gear is in the place where reverse used to be

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                                              • Scroto
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2005
                                                • 2804
                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                                I know how to drive a five speed, and the sixth gear isn't rocket science. I'm asking how it's best used.
                                                on mine, i dont even use 6th unless its a long freeway drive

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                                                  • 2477
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                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 414
                                                    #113
                                                    A sixth gear in a car......is like a stereo that goes to 11

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                                                      • ChandieGirl
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                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 1421
                                                        #114
                                                        Originally posted by Honez
                                                        The 6th gear is called reverse ;)

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                                                          • _alien_
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                            • 11
                                                            #115
                                                            congratz on geting the car

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