So the law of diminishing returns is news?

I feel the same way Webby. I always have.

I think this was the biggest thing juicing the AVS linklists taught me years ago. There was a finite amount of traffic in the systems. Age Check, Cyber Age, Pro Adult, Sex key and others had a ton of it but in order to get every hit you would have to build a certain amount of sites in different niches upselling different sites inside. If you stuck with one or two niches you would easily hit that threshold where the resistance started to fight against you. At that point you would just be burning bandwidth and also watching your upsell conversions drop because those surfers had seen it all over and over again.

The same thing applies to the SE's, TGPs, Link Lists and even mail. Once you scale up, you have to spread the attention.

I wonder why more people don't subscribe to this idea?

'cause some people want to make money but not work for it!

Agree and think you hit it 100% Pornwolf. A mix of .. basically cash registers covering a series of niches and "feeders" directing context-relevant niche traffic to them.

There are other slight benefits to this in that you have your own promo content/creatives and this is not saturated over the marketplace.

Sure is more work Shocking, but it's nice to be able to control/monitor/promote your own efforts and, only me, but seems more stable conversions than throwing traffic at sponsors. (Tho not knocking sponsors - there is still a place for that in the grand plan :winkwink: )

Makes sense

Just last sunday I sent 498 joins to Adult Friend Finder and I'm only 1 person. So yes I think you could do it without affiliates if you have a good network of sites.

Nice! That's some good money right there. Percentage or per click?

its all percentage

Cha ching! Loan me a hundred bucks! I know you have it!

Just kidding. It's always smart to go percentage with AFF. I can only imagine the rebills you are seeing. :thumbsup :thumbsup

Ask me this is 6 months time and I will not be buying a single advert. Well I might after a while. :winkwink:

I'm very serious about this and putting something into Beta testing in a few weeks, will carry it through for a few months and see what happens.

Not sure about the 500 a day though. 500 a month would be a nice addition though and the profit margin higher than $10.

I'm pretty sure I know a site that does $2,000,000 a year turn over without paying for a single advert, does not have a single affiliate, in fact they turned me down and does not have very much exclusive content but does have a lot of mine.

Also I think they have an average Alexa rating.

How do they do it?

Go figure it out.

Ya got me on that one. Since you mentioned it, do you know how they do it?

There are quite of few people who do not spend a lot of money on advert and no affiliates pull that kind of joins in the past. I can think one already :)

Yes I do.

But I'm not telling and I'm going down the same route, well trying to. I'm just not sure if I can get it to the same scale.

I was talking to the guy who runs the site and the financial director in Amsterdam airport last year. We were waiting for planes after being at the mobile phone/Internet show.

You forgot to mention they don't charge for membership either, unless you are talking someone else, btw, I know how they do it, I also know how to get 500 plus joins a day with no affiliates, you must have a healthy start up budget though!

Yeah like you know :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Paul Markham RULES! :pimp

Your added

They charge just under $28.00 a month.

They are not short of money.

Keep guessing.

agreed ....

affiliates can help and hurt a biz. it really depends on the product.

This is reminding me of the games girls play in 3rd grade. Spit it out or say nothing at all. I don't like blue balls.

Cooool. Hitting you now, but, I'm no longer naked. I hope that's ok with you. :winkwink:

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