Question to all affiliates: Why do you dig NATS? - GoFuckYourself.com

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 09:50 AM

Honest question, why do you prefer NATS over any other affiliate system?

Let the opinions roll in

Pete-KT · 06-30-2006, 09:57 AM

Because its the best affilaite software out there

JD · 06-30-2006, 09:57 AM

because of the tracking abilities and overall ease of use

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete-KT

Because its the best affilaite software out there

Thx for your opinion

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

because of the tracking abilities and overall ease of use

the tracking abilities seem to be outstanding, already heard that from another side

justsexxx · 06-30-2006, 10:01 AM

Probable because many programs use it...From an affiliate point of view I think MPA3 is just as good no?

SetTheWorldonFire · 06-30-2006, 10:03 AM

I've seen the other software and there are no programs without bugs but NATS is the only one that has satisfied me.

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SetTheWorldonFire

I've seen the other software and there are no programs without bugs but NATS is the only one that has satisfied me.

That sounds like an honest opinion. Thx.

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Probable because many programs use it...From an affiliate point of view I think MPA3 is just as good no?

To me it seems as if NATS is more preferred and I really like to know why.

MrJackMeHoff · 06-30-2006, 10:17 AM

Its my experience the worst converting programs use NATS if you dissagree you need to look around a bit more ;)

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff

Its my experience the worst converting programs use NATS if you dissagree you need to look around a bit more ;)

That's interesting. Why do you think that's the case ?

Methodcash Rick · 06-30-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

That's interesting. Why do you think that's the case ?

I think it's because NATS based programs count 1st page hits vs. 2nd, 3rd, or join page.

If people are going to make a blanket statement like that, they need to compare apples to apples.

Nathan · 06-30-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

That's interesting. Why do you think that's the case ?

Most likely reason for that is that most program overall use NATS, thus most of bad converting ones will be using NATS also... logical thing really

With the number of installs we have by now, its no wonder some of them do not convert great for everybody.

rotterdammer · 06-30-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BB-Rick

I think it's because NATS based programs count 1st page hits vs. 2nd, 3rd, or join page.

If people are going to make a blanket statement like that, they need to compare apples to apples.

I dont really care about conversion rates... It is cool to see 1:163 or so but i like sponsors who are sending me the biggest checks

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Most likely reason for that is that most program overall use NATS, thus most of bad converting ones will be using NATS also... logical thing really

With the number of installs we have by now, its no wonder some of them do not convert great for everybody.

Thx Fabian for a simple explanation.

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rotterdammer

I dont really care about conversion rates... It is cool to see 1:163 or so but i like sponsors who are sending me the biggest checks

That's true as well

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BB-Rick

I think it's because NATS based programs count 1st page hits vs. 2nd, 3rd, or join page.

If people are going to make a blanket statement like that, they need to compare apples to apples.

What do you mean with the 1st page hits only ?

DaddyHalbucks · 06-30-2006, 10:37 AM

Hows does NATS compare with CC Bill for reliability?

As an affiliate, NATS is easier to use. The links are easier to create and grab in the interface.

The CC Bill interface seems very OLD.

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Hows does NATS compare with CC Bill for reliability?

As an affiliate, NATS is easier to use. The links are easier to create and grab in the interface.

The CC Bill interface seems very OLD.

That is another good point.

Validus · 06-30-2006, 11:05 AM

I am more of a MPA3 person myself.

The Heron · 06-30-2006, 11:09 AM

Because they like getting 999 different checks.
Or they enjoy logging into 9999 different sites to check stats and get link codes.
Or they don't realize that most nats program use ccbill as a primary processor and stupidly think that nats is getting them more signups.

On second thought those might be reasons people don't like nats...

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Validus

I am more of a MPA3 person myself.

That is nice, but what does this have to do with NATS ?

Validus · 06-30-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

That is nice, but what does this have to do with NATS ?

Nothing, it was just a fact I stated. An opinion so to speak!

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Heron

Because they like getting 999 different checks.
Or they enjoy logging into 9999 different sites to check stats and get link codes.
Or they don't realize that most nats program use ccbill as a primary processor and stupidly think that nats is getting them more signups.

On second thought those might be reasons people don't like nats...

And what about the sponsors that don't work with ccbill ?

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Validus

Nothing, it was just a fact I stated. An opinion so to speak!

Actually the question was why you dig NATS, not why you love MPA3

Wizzo · 06-30-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

Honest question, why do you prefer NATS over any other affiliate system?

Because its what powers MayorsMoney!

Wizzo · 06-30-2006, 11:24 AM

double post...

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

Because its what powers MayorsMoney!

might be another good reason

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

double post...

damn board software acting out again

Validus · 06-30-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

Actually the question was why you dig NATS, not why you love MPA3

Well, I dig NATS because I love MPA3 more? Is that a better answer?

Pete-KT · 06-30-2006, 11:33 AM

Becuase you can cascade bill

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Validus

Well, I dig NATS because I love MPA3 more? Is that a better answer?

Now it gets very confusing.........

Validus · 06-30-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

Now it gets very confusing.........

Yea, I know. I just like MPA3 better, then again... I am only a small time user (affiliate wise). So, enough of my opinions about MPA3 in this thread.

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete-KT

Becuase you can cascade bill

That is in fact a good reason and should also bring more money into the pockets of an affiliate

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Validus

Yea, I know. I just like MPA3 better, then again... I am only a small time user (affiliate wise). So, enough of my opinions about MPA3 in this thread.

Thx for your input anyway

Kimo · 06-30-2006, 11:48 AM

nats is sexy and i like it because i do ok? now leave me alone ccbill boi

Mr. Blue · 06-30-2006, 11:52 AM

Personally I think people make too much of what affiliate system a program is using and not looking at other factors that make a sponsor convert great or miserably.

Nats, MPA3, CCBill, to me it doesn't matter which is used, what matters is how much money I'm making with a sponsor. Right now my best sponsor by far is a ccbill sponsors, next month it might be an MPA3 sponsor or a Nats sponsors. It has little to do with the affiliate system and promoting a sponsor just because of the system they're using is just nuts.

Doctor Dre · 06-30-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

To me it seems as if NATS is more preferred and I really like to know why.

It's preffered to mpa3 becasue of the attitude the MPA guys have toward the shave feature they had in version 2. They never apoligized to webmasters and always acted like they did the right thing. This is waht bothers people.

It's been established that the product is good.

vanillaice · 06-30-2006, 12:06 PM

Doesn't NATS has some sort of extra level of fraud protection, or was that an add-on I saw one sponsor use?

If so, that could be a reason why some people see ratios drop when going to NATS. I like the fraud protection, but from what I hear it's a little overboard at times. For example, I was told you don't get credit for a sale until someone actually logs into the site. Also, if sell two sites from the same program to the same user, you don't get credit for one because they consider it fraud when a user signs up for a program 2x.

I'm not sure all the above info is correct, but I really would like some confirmation on it. I'm less and less impressed with NATS every time I try a sponsor that uses it.

fallenmuffin · 06-30-2006, 12:07 PM

Who said I did? I perfer ccbill.

nico-t · 06-30-2006, 12:07 PM

i can track with other systems too, i really dont understand what the fuss is all about with NATS... but yea its fairly quick to use.

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vanillaice

Doesn't NATS has some sort of extra level of fraud protection, or was that an add-on I saw one sponsor use?

If so, that could be a reason why some people see ratios drop when going to NATS. I like the fraud protection, but from what I hear it's a little overboard at times. For example, I was told you don't get credit for a sale until someone actually logs into the site. Also, if sell two sites from the same program to the same user, you don't get credit for one because they consider it fraud when a user signs up for a program 2x.

I'm not sure all the above info is correct, but I really would like some confirmation on it. I'm less and less impressed with NATS every time I try a sponsor that uses it.

That is a very wise thing to do regardless of any affiliate software used.

V_RocKs · 06-30-2006, 12:11 PM

It is like asking why do you like Quickbooks for handling your money... Because you set it up, you then do your work... It does its job, you do your job. You don't have to do its job. It helps you with yours though and doesn't bitch about the extra work.

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

i can track with other systems too, i really dont understand what the fuss is all about with NATS... but yea its fairly quick to use.

That is why I started this thread, to find out what's the fuss is all about and why affiliates might prefer NATS and it seems as if there are actually some reasons for it.

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

It is like asking why do you like Quickbooks for handling your money... Because you set it up, you then do your work... It does its job, you do your job. You don't have to do its job. It helps you with yours though and doesn't bitch about the extra work.

Good point, thx for you post

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Who said I did? I perfer ccbill.

noone said so, or did I miss something ?

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

It's preffered to mpa3 becasue of the attitude the MPA guys have toward the shave feature they had in version 2. They never apoligized to webmasters and always acted like they did the right thing. This is waht bothers people.

It's been established that the product is good.

That's a valid reason of course, although it has nothing to do with one system being better than the other. It would have been wise to not implement that feature at all.

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimo

nats is sexy and i like it because i do ok? now leave me alone ccbill boi

Sexy is always good

gooddomains · 06-30-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

Personally I think people make too much of what affiliate system a program is using and not looking at other factors that make a sponsor convert great or miserably.

Nats, MPA3, CCBill, to me it doesn't matter which is used, what matters is how much money I'm making with a sponsor. Right now my best sponsor by far is a ccbill sponsors, next month it might be an MPA3 sponsor or a Nats sponsors. It has little to do with the affiliate system and promoting a sponsor just because of the system they're using is just nuts.

But from the thread titles on GFY recently you can see that people are actively looking for NATS based programs, there must be some reason for this.

Martin · 06-30-2006, 12:21 PM

I've never done that good with proggies using nats...

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06-30-2006, 10:37 AM	#18
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Hows does NATS compare with CC Bill for reliability? As an affiliate, NATS is easier to use. The links are easier to create and grab in the interface. The CC Bill interface seems very OLD. __________________ Boner Money

06-30-2006, 09:57 AM	#2
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	Because its the best affilaite software out there

06-30-2006, 09:57 AM	#3
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	because of the tracking abilities and overall ease of use

06-30-2006, 11:05 AM	#20
Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	I am more of a MPA3 person myself.

06-30-2006, 11:09 AM	#21
The Heron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,488	Because they like getting 999 different checks. Or they enjoy logging into 9999 different sites to check stats and get link codes. Or they don't realize that most nats program use ccbill as a primary processor and stupidly think that nats is getting them more signups. On second thought those might be reasons people don't like nats...

06-30-2006, 11:24 AM	#27
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	double post... __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

06-30-2006, 11:33 AM	#31
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	Becuase you can cascade bill

06-30-2006, 11:48 AM	#36
Kimo ... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland ICQ:87038677 Posts: 11,542	nats is sexy and i like it because i do ok? now leave me alone ccbill boi __________________ ...

06-30-2006, 11:52 AM	#37
Mr. Blue Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 536	Personally I think people make too much of what affiliate system a program is using and not looking at other factors that make a sponsor convert great or miserably. Nats, MPA3, CCBill, to me it doesn't matter which is used, what matters is how much money I'm making with a sponsor. Right now my best sponsor by far is a ccbill sponsors, next month it might be an MPA3 sponsor or a Nats sponsors. It has little to do with the affiliate system and promoting a sponsor just because of the system they're using is just nuts. __________________ See Sig...oh wait.

06-30-2006, 12:06 PM	#39
vanillaice Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 512	Doesn't NATS has some sort of extra level of fraud protection, or was that an add-on I saw one sponsor use? If so, that could be a reason why some people see ratios drop when going to NATS. I like the fraud protection, but from what I hear it's a little overboard at times. For example, I was told you don't get credit for a sale until someone actually logs into the site. Also, if sell two sites from the same program to the same user, you don't get credit for one because they consider it fraud when a user signs up for a program 2x. I'm not sure all the above info is correct, but I really would like some confirmation on it. I'm less and less impressed with NATS every time I try a sponsor that uses it.

06-30-2006, 12:07 PM	#40
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Who said I did? I perfer ccbill.

06-30-2006, 12:07 PM	#41
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	i can track with other systems too, i really dont understand what the fuss is all about with NATS... but yea its fairly quick to use.

06-30-2006, 12:11 PM	#43
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	It is like asking why do you like Quickbooks for handling your money... Because you set it up, you then do your work... It does its job, you do your job. You don't have to do its job. It helps you with yours though and doesn't bitch about the extra work.

06-30-2006, 12:21 PM	#50
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	I've never done that good with proggies using nats... __________________